• Eggs $7.49 a Dozen, limited to 2 Dozen ONLY

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 16:56:42 2023
    But it's transitory.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jan 14 17:19:32 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:56:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.

    That's not inflation; it's just a rip-off. Eggs are $2.75(US) here, all day. You're doing your grocery shopping at the gas station again, aren't you.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Jan 15 10:30:56 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:19:37 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:56:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.


    ~ That's not inflation; it's just a rip-off. Eggs are $2.75(US) here, all day. You're doing your grocery shopping at the gas station again, aren't you.


    Egg prices in Canada are lower because there are so many chickens in Canada.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 15 11:27:44 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:56:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.
    .

    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sun Jan 15 13:55:52 2023
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..


    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 16 07:43:59 2023
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:55:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..
    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.
    .

    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 08:37:19 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.


    ~ Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.


    When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm

    '2% inflation' is nothing more than undiluted Blabbermouth bullshit. I included the data proving it. Sorry if it disrupted your juvenile lying.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 08:20:48 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.

    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 08:26:26 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:55:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..
    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.
    .

    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.



    Avian flu has only reduced the number of egglayers in the U.S. by 5%. That isn't what's causing the huge increase in egg prices. The much higher cost of fuel, chicken feed, and even egg packaging are the major culprits. And that is a result of the higher
    prices throughout the economy caused by the MASSIVE increase in the money supply.

    If MSNBC told you it's all because of bird flu then you've been duped again. Actually, they probably didn't. You probably stopped listening after they said 'bird flu'.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 11:52:26 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    ~ Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.


    When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm

    '2% inflation' is nothing more than undiluted Blabbermouth bullshit. I included the data proving it. Sorry if it disrupted your juvenile lying.

    Uh, I was obviously talking about the annualized inflation rate over the last six months. It's been 0% over the past two months. I was under the impression the sharpest rise in egg prices has been fairly recent, given Paul's post and the fact that I have
    seen several news stories about the price of eggs over the last few days. And every source I've seen has said bird flu is the primary cause of the price increases. According to the Wall Street Journal egg inventories are down 29% from this time last year.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 12:01:58 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:37:23 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    .
    ~ Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation
    causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has
    anti-vax MAGA chickens.


    When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm

    '2% inflation' is nothing more than undiluted Blabbermouth bullshit. I included the data proving it. Sorry if it disrupted your juvenile lying.
    .

    By admitting you were wrong?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 11:49:23 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation. Or
    that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90 days
    and is still falling.





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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 11:59:25 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:55:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..
    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.
    .

    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    .

    Avian flu has only reduced the number of egglayers in the U.S. by 5%.
    .

    That is significant.
    .

    That isn't what's causing the huge increase in egg prices.
    .

    Yea, it is.

    FORBES:

    The median cost of a dozen eggs in the U.S. remains $4.25—over twice what it was a
    year ago—and while increased inflation in 2022 has contributed somewhat, the real
    reason egg costs remain high (as inflation otherwise eases) is an avian flu that has
    decimated chicken farmers, causing as many as 57 million chickens to be affected.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonytellez/2023/01/12/why-are-egg-prices-still-so-high-its-not-the-reason-you-think/?sh=1c2b1787c6b6
    _______________

    The much higher cost of fuel, chicken feed, and even egg packaging are the major culprits. And
    that is a result of the higher prices throughout the economy caused by the MASSIVE increase
    in the money supply.

    Source?


    If MSNBC told you it's all because of bird flu then you've been duped again.
    .

    You wrong, once again:

    First; MSNBC referred to Forbes.
    Second; I just showed you my source; what was your?
    .

    Actually, they probably didn't. You probably stopped listening after they said 'bird flu'.
    .

    And I just showed you were wrong, again.
    But do give us that link to YOUR source..

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 12:11:50 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation. Or
    that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90 days
    and is still falling.

    As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency, about the
    same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there was also
    worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get vaccinated (which
    resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized over the last six
    months of data.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 12:53:28 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .



    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation. Or
    that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90 days
    and is still falling.


    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.

    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 13:00:55 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation.
    Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.

    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.

    That doesn't sound like something I would say.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 13:06:42 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.


    Do cows and goats have the flu too? Fish also? Everything is getting expensive. Does everything have the flu?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 13:13:51 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation.
    Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.


    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 13:10:54 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:55:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..
    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.
    .

    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    .

    Avian flu has only reduced the number of egglayers in the U.S. by 5%.
    .

    That is significant.
    .

    That isn't what's causing the huge increase in egg prices.
    .

    Yea, it is.

    FORBES:

    The median cost of a dozen eggs in the U.S. remains $4.25—over twice what it was a
    year ago—and while increased inflation in 2022 has contributed somewhat, the real
    reason egg costs remain high (as inflation otherwise eases) is an avian flu that has
    decimated chicken farmers, causing as many as 57 million chickens to be affected.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonytellez/2023/01/12/why-are-egg-prices-still-so-high-its-not-the-reason-you-think/?sh=1c2b1787c6b6
    _______________
    The much higher cost of fuel, chicken feed, and even egg packaging are the major culprits. And
    that is a result of the higher prices throughout the economy caused by the MASSIVE increase
    in the money supply.
    Source?

    If MSNBC told you it's all because of bird flu then you've been duped again.
    .

    You wrong, once again:

    First; MSNBC referred to Forbes.


    ~ Second; I just showed you my source; what was your?


    Mmm, hmmm. A Forbes columnist trying to take the heat off the egg producers. Like Blabbermouth, you don't have any compunction about switching to right-wing backup to support your 'liberal' apologetics, do you?

    Margarine costs in December surged 44% from a year ago, while butter rose 31%. 'Bird flu, too'?



    .

    Actually, they probably didn't. You probably stopped listening after they said 'bird flu'.
    .

    And I just showed you were wrong, again.
    But do give us that link to YOUR source..

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 13:20:53 2023
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    <save the Super Club Democrats BS>

    👉When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm👈

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 13:25:14 2023
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency, about the
    same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there was also
    worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get vaccinated (which
    resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized over the last six
    months of data.


    <save the Super Club Democrats BS; the idea of you teaching anyone anything is laughable, Mr. '3.5% transitory 'inflation', LOL.>

    ➡️When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm⬅️

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 16 13:31:58 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:06:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.


    ~ Do cows and goats have the flu too? Fish also? Everything is getting expensive. Does everything have the flu?


    The average American is 7.4% poorer than a year ago. Biden, Blabbermouth, and Jerry are bragging that they're getting a 'breather' now.

    Come on Jerry and Blabber- let's see those 'breather' posts. Oh. I'm sorry- Blabber started with that 3 months ago.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 13:27:09 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.

    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.

    And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (especially where it
    involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 13:35:31 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over
    90 days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.
    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.


    ~ And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (especially where
    it involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.


    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?

    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the
    police.' https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 13:42:48 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:35 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for
    over 90 days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.
    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.

    ~ And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (especially
    where it involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.


    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?

    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with
    the police.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ

    Yes, I was mocking Fox News for pretending they just couldn't conceive of what could possibly motivate such a random attack against police in the midst of massive national protests over the cruel murder of George Floyd, along with a BLM declaration of
    war against police.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 13:37:58 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:10:58 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Margarine costs in December surged 44% from a year ago,


    Margarine Flu. Margarine shortage.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 13:38:51 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency, about
    the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there was
    also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get vaccinated (
    which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized over the last
    six months of data.



    <save the Super Club Democrats BS; the idea of you teaching anyone anything is laughable, Mr. '3.5% transitory 'inflation', LOL.>

    ~ ➡️When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm⬅️

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.


    ~ What does that have to do with what I said? Inflation had been about 2% per annum over the last six months. That obviously doesn't account for most of a recent stratospheric price increase of select products like eggs. Why would 2% inflation cause a
    100% increase (or whatever it was) in the price of eggs? It wouldn't. When you see that kind of huge disparity between the inflation rate and the price of a specific product, that should be a red flag to you that there is something specific going on
    within that sector that is causing most of the increase.


    A better question: why are you full of shit? The average American is much poorer than last year and you keep trying to pretend they aren't. What an abject fool.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 14:02:06 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:35 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for
    over 90 days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.
    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.

    ~ And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (especially
    where it involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.



    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?

    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with
    the police.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ


    ~ Yes, I was mocking Fox News for pretending they just couldn't conceive of what could possibly motivate such a random attack against police in the midst of massive national protests over the cruel murder of George Floyd, along with a BLM declaration of
    war against police.


    YOU are who declared war against the police:
    Blabbermouth: 'There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.'
    And promoted a clearly insane assertion that there is a 'genocide' occurring.

    You don't have enough testicles to stand up to your own words.

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 14:35:52 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:35 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for
    over 90 days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.
    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.

    ~ And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (especially
    where it involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.



    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?

    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives
    with the police.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ
    ~ Yes, I was mocking Fox News for pretending they just couldn't conceive of what could possibly motivate such a random attack against police in the midst of massive national protests over the cruel murder of George Floyd, along with a BLM declaration
    of war against police.


    YOU are who declared war against the police:
    Blabbermouth: 'There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.'
    And promoted a clearly insane assertion that there is a 'genocide' occurring.

    You don't have enough testicles to stand up to your own words.

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.

    You have the IQ of a turnip. I didn't declare war on the police. LOL How stupid. I clearly said "black people are fighting a war for their lives," and that was obviously in reference to BLM's widely publicized and contemporaneous public declaration of
    war against police. I know your reading skills and ability to read between the lines are very poor (my writing is best understood by the educated), but I was clearly talking from the perspective of a black suspect who would commit this type of random
    crime against police.

    My underlying point, which of course went ten miles over your head, was that Fox was disingenuously trying to camouflage the inevitable consequences of people like you and news organizations like theirs (far-right) defending or minimizing the murder or
    abuse of civilians by police. Not only do these police crimes harm the direct victims, but they also cultivate a general disrespect for the law and police, especially on a street level, which hurts everyone in the community and the police (up to and
    including death).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 15:45:55 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.

    It looks like Statistica has also "declared war on police" and are "applauding" their murder (by your goofy standards):

    "Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 1,060 civilians having been shot, 220 of whom were Black, as of December 20, 2022. In 2021, there were 1,055 fatal police shootings, and in 2020
    there were 1,020 fatal shootings. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 5.9 fatal shootings per million of the population per year between 2015 and December
    2022.

    "Police brutality in the U.S.
    In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by police in the United States is often compared
    to those in countries such as England, where the number is significantly lower.

    "Black Lives Matter
    The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing “die-ins”, marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of black men and women by police. While Black
    Lives Matter has become a controversial movement within the U.S., it has brought more attention to the number and frequency of police shootings of civilians."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 16 15:54:03 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:38:01 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:10:58 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Margarine costs in December surged 44% from a year ago,
    Margarine Flu. Margarine shortage.

    Probably good, given how unhealthy the stuff is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 16:08:18 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:45:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.
    It looks like Statistica has also "declared war on police" and are "applauding" their murder (by your goofy standards):

    "Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 1,060 civilians having been shot, 220 of whom were Black, as of December 20, 2022. In 2021, there were 1,055 fatal police shootings, and in 2020
    there were 1,020 fatal shootings. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 5.9 fatal shootings per million of the population per year between 2015 and December
    2022.

    "Police brutality in the U.S.
    In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by police in the United States is often
    compared to those in countries such as England, where the number is significantly lower.

    "Black Lives Matter
    The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing “die-ins”, marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of black men and women by police. While
    Black Lives Matter has become a controversial movement within the U.S., it has brought more attention to the number and frequency of police shootings of civilians."

    Looks like the World Population Review is also trying to drum up hatred against the police (by your idiotic standards) and "applauding" attacks on them by reporting disturbing statistical facts like this:

    "Police shootings are an issue of great concern and controversy in the United States, which has the highest number of police shootings of any developed country (every other country in the top 10 is a developing country) and the highest rate of private
    gun ownership in the world."

    For some strange reason, when if comes to lethal force by law enforcement against citizens, the United States is much more like Third World El Salvador than it's closest geographical, economic and cultural neighbor, Canada.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 17:19:08 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:08:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:45:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.
    It looks like Statistica has also "declared war on police" and are "applauding" their murder (by your goofy standards):

    "Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 1,060 civilians having been shot, 220 of whom were Black, as of December 20, 2022. In 2021, there were 1,055 fatal police shootings, and in
    2020 there were 1,020 fatal shootings. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 5.9 fatal shootings per million of the population per year between 2015 and
    December 2022.

    "Police brutality in the U.S.
    In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by police in the United States is often
    compared to those in countries such as England, where the number is significantly lower.

    "Black Lives Matter
    The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing “die-ins”, marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of black men and women by police. While
    Black Lives Matter has become a controversial movement within the U.S., it has brought more attention to the number and frequency of police shootings of civilians."


    ~ Looks like the World Population Review is also trying to drum up hatred against the police (by your idiotic standards) and "applauding" attacks on them by reporting disturbing statistical facts like this:

    "Police shootings are an issue of great concern and controversy in the United States, which has the highest number of police shootings of any developed country (every other country in the top 10 is a developing country) and the highest rate of private
    gun ownership in the world."

    For some strange reason, when if comes to lethal force by law enforcement against citizens, the United States is much more like Third World El Salvador than it's closest geographical, economic and cultural neighbor, Canada.


    Yikes! Stand back! Meltdown in progress! Gooey 'liberalism' all over the floor. RGP's explainer-awayer in action.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 17:16:08 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:35:56 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:35 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:27:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:13:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:00:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:53:32 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    ~ Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor
    in inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell
    for over 90 days and is still falling.
    I can't wait to read that in the newspaper. It was well worth the effort of typing it.


    You forgot to mention that Blabbermouth classifies you as 'scumbag ex-cop'.
    ~ That doesn't sound like something I would say.


    You hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course). That's plain enough for anyone to see.
    So you did make it up. That's what I thought.

    ~ And your comment that I "hate cops and love criminals (if they're black, of course)" is plainly stupid and the work product of someone with a pathetically low IQ. I do however hate cops who routinely violate the public's civil rights (
    especially where it involves violence), and I do have a degree of sympathy for criminals who were steered into criminality through childhood physical and mental abuse, mental illness, a horrific upbringing environment, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.



    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?

    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives
    with the police.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ
    ~ Yes, I was mocking Fox News for pretending they just couldn't conceive of what could possibly motivate such a random attack against police in the midst of massive national protests over the cruel murder of George Floyd, along with a BLM declaration
    of war against police.


    YOU are who declared war against the police:
    Blabbermouth: 'There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.'
    And promoted a clearly insane assertion that there is a 'genocide' occurring.

    You don't have enough testicles to stand up to your own words.

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.


    ~ You have the IQ of a turnip. I didn't declare war on the police. LOL How stupid. I clearly said "black people are fighting a war for their lives," and that was obviously in reference to BLM's widely publicized and contemporaneous public declaration of
    war against police. I know your reading skills and ability to read between the lines are very poor (my writing is best understood by the educated), but I was clearly talking from the perspective of a black suspect who would commit this type of random
    crime against police.

    My underlying point, which of course went ten miles over your head, was that Fox was disingenuously trying to camouflage the inevitable consequences of people like you and news organizations like theirs (far-right) defending or minimizing the murder or
    abuse of civilians by police. Not only do these police crimes harm the direct victims, but they also cultivate a general disrespect for the law and police, especially on a street level, which hurts everyone in the community and the police (up to and
    including death).


    LOL. Stand back! Meltdown in progress! RGP's explainer-awayer in action.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 16 17:21:37 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:06:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    .

    Do cows and goats have the flu too? Fish also? Everything is getting expensive. Does everything have the flu?
    .

    Your admission to ignorance grows by the day..

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Mon Jan 16 17:19:24 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation.
    Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    .

    As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..

    .
    .
    .
    .


    about the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there
    was also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get
    vaccinated (which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized
    over the last six months of data.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:29:05 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    How many people reading this do you think there are who don't think you're full of shit?


    ➡️BillBlabbermouth commented on a black criminal that surreptitiously approached two police officers from behind and attempted to murder them with a handgun but only succeeded in horribly maiming them both with headshots:
    'I saw the story on Fox News.com They said the shooter acted "without warning or provocation". I was like...WTF?? Have you people been asleep for the last two months? There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives
    with the police.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Zfiue-aH2TQ/m/qLVZKMjuBAAJ

    ~ Yes, I was mocking Fox News for pretending they just couldn't conceive of what could possibly motivate such a random attack against police in the midst of massive national protests over the cruel murder of George Floyd, along with a BLM declaration
    of war against police.



    ~ YOU are who declared war against the police:
    Blabbermouth: 'There is a genocide occurring. Black people are fighting a war for their lives with the police.'
    And promoted a clearly insane assertion that there is a 'genocide' occurring.

    You don't have enough testicles to stand up to your own words.

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.


    Sorry, my error. 64 police officers were shot dead last year. About 330 were only wounded by gunfire. I guess that would include the two police officers who were horribly maimed which gave Blabbermouth such a thrill.

    I haven't seen any figures for police officers who were run down by cars, stabbed, attacked with machetes, or had their skulls bashed in with blunt objects. I hope Blabbermouth appreciates his nice, safe, virtually black-free Vancouver. It makes a
    wonderful little squat nest for him from which to heap hatred on
    American police officers.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:28:51 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    <save the Super Club Democrats BS>
    .

    IOW... You have no argument or alibi...
    .
    .

    //NEXT//
    .
    .




    👉When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm👈

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:27:09 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:10:58 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:55:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's Bird Flu, dip shit. ("Supply chain" Hello?) Try watching something other that FOX and we
    wouldn't embarrass you so often..
    Try wiping your ass with something other than the NYTimes.
    .

    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    .

    Avian flu has only reduced the number of egglayers in the U.S. by 5%.
    .

    That is significant.
    .

    That isn't what's causing the huge increase in egg prices.
    .

    Yea, it is.

    FORBES:

    The median cost of a dozen eggs in the U.S. remains $4.25—over twice what it was a
    year ago—and while increased inflation in 2022 has contributed somewhat, the real
    reason egg costs remain high (as inflation otherwise eases) is an avian flu that has
    decimated chicken farmers, causing as many as 57 million chickens to be affected.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonytellez/2023/01/12/why-are-egg-prices-still-so-high-its-not-the-reason-you-think/?sh=1c2b1787c6b6
    _______________
    The much higher cost of fuel, chicken feed, and even egg packaging are the major culprits. And
    that is a result of the higher prices throughout the economy caused by the MASSIVE increase
    in the money supply.
    Source?

    If MSNBC told you it's all because of bird flu then you've been duped again.
    .

    You wrong, once again:

    First; MSNBC referred to Forbes.
    ~ Second; I just showed you my source; what was your?

    .

    Mmm, hmmm.
    .

    Yea, that' s what I thought...

    //NEXT//

    .
    .
    .
    .



    A Forbes columnist trying to take the heat off the egg producers. Like Blabbermouth, you don't have any compunction about switching to right-wing backup to support your 'liberal' apologetics, do you?

    Margarine costs in December surged 44% from a year ago, while butter rose 31%. 'Bird flu, too'?
    .

    Actually, they probably didn't. You probably stopped listening after they said 'bird flu'.
    .

    And I just showed you were wrong, again.
    But do give us that link to YOUR source..

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:30:23 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency, about
    the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there was
    also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get vaccinated (
    which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized over the last
    six months of data.


    <save the Super Club Democrats BS; ...
    .

    And not argument or alibi for BillB's facts either...

    .
    //NEXT//
    .
    .






    the idea of you teaching anyone anything is laughable, Mr. '3.5% transitory 'inflation', LOL.>

    ➡️When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm⬅️

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:32:52 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:32:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:06:46 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    It's not hard copy, it's on the Internet. Asswipe yourself on your FOX computer screen, dipshit.
    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    ~ Do cows and goats have the flu too? Fish also? Everything is getting expensive. Does everything have the flu?


    The average American is 7.4% poorer than a year ago....
    .

    Once again... SOURCE!

    Or is this just another Alibi & Dodge?
    .
    .


    Biden, Blabbermouth, and Jerry are bragging that they're getting a 'breather' now.

    Come on Jerry and Blabber- let's see those 'breather' posts. Oh. I'm sorry- Blabber started with that 3 months ago.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:38:53 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    .
    Yikes! Stand back! Meltdown in progress! Gooey 'liberalism' all over the floor. RGP's explainer-awayer in action.
    Yikes! Stand back! Meltdown in progress! Gooey 'liberalism' all over the floor. RGP's explainer-awayer in action.
    Yikes! Stand back! Meltdown in progress! Gooey 'liberalism' all over the floor. RGP's explainer-awayer in action.
    .

    Looks like Risky is one a Wimp & Run...

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:34:32 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:35:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    about the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply, there
    was also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get
    vaccinated (which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized
    over the last six months of data.



    <save the Super Club Democrats BS; the idea of you teaching anyone anything is laughable, Mr. '3.5% transitory 'inflation', LOL.>

    ~ ➡️When Biden took office the 12-month change in the CPI was 1.5%. By May it was .1%. That didn't last long. It then began a steady, persistent advance, hitting 9.1% in June 2022. As of December 2022 it was 6.5%.
    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm⬅️

    'bird flu, bird flu, bird flu'? LOL.
    ~ What does that have to do with what I said? Inflation had been about 2% per annum over the last six months. That obviously doesn't account for most of a recent stratospheric price increase of select products like eggs. Why would 2% inflation cause a
    100% increase (or whatever it was) in the price of eggs? It wouldn't. When you see that kind of huge disparity between the inflation rate and the price of a specific product, that should be a red flag to you that there is something specific going on
    within that sector that is causing most of the increase.


    A better question....
    .
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***
    .

    //NEXT//
    .
    .
    .






    : why are you full of shit? The average American is much poorer than last year and you keep trying to pretend they aren't. What an abject fool.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 17:39:55 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:08:22 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 3:45:58 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    64 police officers were murdered in the line of duty last year. And there you are applauding. Disgusting.
    It looks like Statistica has also "declared war on police" and are "applauding" their murder (by your goofy standards):

    "Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 1,060 civilians having been shot, 220 of whom were Black, as of December 20, 2022. In 2021, there were 1,055 fatal police shootings, and in
    2020 there were 1,020 fatal shootings. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 5.9 fatal shootings per million of the population per year between 2015 and
    December 2022.

    "Police brutality in the U.S.
    In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by police in the United States is often
    compared to those in countries such as England, where the number is significantly lower.

    "Black Lives Matter
    The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing “die-ins”, marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of black men and women by police. While
    Black Lives Matter has become a controversial movement within the U.S., it has brought more attention to the number and frequency of police shootings of civilians."
    ~ Looks like the World Population Review is also trying to drum up hatred against the police (by your idiotic standards) and "applauding" attacks on them by reporting disturbing statistical facts like this:

    "Police shootings are an issue of great concern and controversy in the United States, which has the highest number of police shootings of any developed country (every other country in the top 10 is a developing country) and the highest rate of
    private gun ownership in the world."

    For some strange reason, when if comes to lethal force by law enforcement against citizens, the United States is much more like Third World El Salvador than it's closest geographical, economic and cultural neighbor, Canada.
    Yikes! Stand back! Meltdown in progress! Gooey 'liberalism' all over the floor. RGP's explainer-awayer in action.

    LOL...nothing, nothing and more nothing. More punishment for my personal punching bag.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 18:05:00 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .


    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..


    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 16 18:13:27 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output.



    Here's Blabbermouth teaching that the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply .. check the dates. Months ago.

    Blabbermouth: 'So this means I now have to show you a chart that proves money supply and inflation don't always track together?'
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2011/05/14/money-growth-does-not-cause-inflation/?sh=564acf4242f5

    Blabbermouth: 'It's possible to have money growth and deflation at the same time.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Bz7jzuAHYWM/m/6DWGYj0KAwAJ

    Blabbermouth: 'Do you want to learn, or do you want to make up your own incorrect definitions and live in your own little fantasy world?'

    Blabbermouth: 'And yes, it is possible to have a simultaneous increase in money supply and deflation. That's enough for today. If you can absorb this basic concept, I'll teach you a little more about economics tomorrow.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Bz7jzuAHYWM/m/AJI9_fsbAwAJ


    LOL. What a two-faced fuck.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 19:18:29 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.

    But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 16 19:17:24 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:19:27 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in inflation.
    Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    .

    As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..

    .
    .
    .
    .
    about the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply,
    there was also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get
    vaccinated (which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized
    over the last six months of data.

    If I recall, the tax cuts for the rich were $2 trillion over 10 years, which is the way these calculation are usually done.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 01:35:01 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 6:05:03 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.

    If you weren't an economic illiterate you would know that there is typically a two year lag between a change in monetary policy and inflation. In fact, it's usually a little longer than two years in developed economies. Also, averaging the annual
    increase of money supply during the Trump administration makes no sense because most of the inflation causing increase in money supply happened in the latter years of his presidency, which, given the expected lag, is what would have been to primary cause
    of the peak inflation during the Biden administration (in addition to the supply and demand issues that affected the Biden economy during his first two years, particularly in the food and energy sectors). The increase (and subsequent decrease) in M2
    during the Biden administration and its effect on prices wouldn't even be fully realized yet (if at all) given the the time lag factor I just taught you. All you want to do is argue. You aren't willing to learn.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 01:19:31 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 6:13:30 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding economic output.
    Here's Blabbermouth teaching that the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply .. check the dates. Months ago.

    Blabbermouth: 'So this means I now have to show you a chart that proves money supply and inflation don't always track together?'
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2011/05/14/money-growth-does-not-cause-inflation/?sh=564acf4242f5

    Blabbermouth: 'It's possible to have money growth and deflation at the same time.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Bz7jzuAHYWM/m/6DWGYj0KAwAJ

    Blabbermouth: 'Do you want to learn, or do you want to make up your own incorrect definitions and live in your own little fantasy world?'

    Blabbermouth: 'And yes, it is possible to have a simultaneous increase in money supply and deflation. That's enough for today. If you can absorb this basic concept, I'll teach you a little more about economics tomorrow.'
    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/Bz7jzuAHYWM/m/AJI9_fsbAwAJ


    LOL. What a two-faced fuck.

    If you weren't such an economic illiterate you would know that nothing you have quoted above contradicts what I taught you about an increase in money supply typically being the *primary* driver of inflation. All I was doing in the quotes above was going
    a wee little bit beyond the very basics I had taught you earlier because I thought you might be ready to take the next baby step in understanding basic economics. Obviously, you were not ready, hence your confusion now.

    In 2008 I taught you: "many things can cause inflation. The primary cause an increase in money supply."

    I also said the same day 14 years ago: "an increase in money supply has ALWAYS been the primary cause of
    inflation. Ask any economics professor. Never mind that....ask anyone who knows the very first thing about economics."

    I also said 14 years ago: "Did you learn that when I said "Many things can cause inflation". I am
    glad you are learning from me. But we were talking about the PRIMARY cause, remember? Of course you do. The PRIMARY cause is an increase in money
    supply."

    I also wrote 14 years ago: "There is general consensus that in the long run, inflation is caused by the money supply increasing faster than the growth rate of the economy"

    In 2009 I wrote: "Also, keep in mind that there is a strong historical relationship
    between money supply and inflation."

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 08:12:12 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 6:05:03 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    .
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.
    .

    Thanks, but it was the economists that made those statements. They are the Geniuses.
    .
    Then there's the FOX Cut & Pasters from Political Pick & Shoosers that think their geniuses.
    Like your shit below:
    .

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Jan 17 08:15:26 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:17:28 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:19:27 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over 90
    days and is still falling.
    .

    As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..

    .
    .
    .
    .
    about the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply,
    there was also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get
    vaccinated (which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized
    over the last six months of data.
    If I recall, the tax cuts for the rich were $2 trillion over 10 years, which is the way these calculation are usually done.

    It's still deficit spending and added to the national debt. Along with $3 trillion Trump (GOP) spending.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Jan 17 12:07:07 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:15:29 AM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:17:28 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:19:27 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:49:27 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 8:20:51 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:44:03 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    THEN learn from MSNBC the chicken shortage is because of the bird flu.
    Yes, I wasn't aware of that when I made my comment. But I knew it couldn't be the 2% inflation causing it. Now I am seeing articles all over the place on the bird flu. Turns out the US even has anti-vax MAGA chickens.
    .

    Yea. I just sent a letter to the editor of our local right-wing rag:

    Letter to the Editor

    In your Review-Journal’s View, where you blame President Biden for inflation, you fail to mention economists saying most of inflation was the ending of Covid and people spending pent up money. Or that gas prices were the major factor in
    inflation. Or that you didn’t answer the Internet question of:

    Q. Who is in charge of gas prices?
    A. President Biden that doesn’t have that power?
    B. The oil companies that make the gas?

    Or that President Biden had to tell Trump’s pal in Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, or else. And Biden also threatening our U.S. oil producers to increase gas, or else. Both complied and gas prices – and inflation – fell for over
    90 days and is still falling.
    .

    As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..

    .
    .
    .
    .
    about the same as it had increased in the ten years before that (and most of that was during the period of quantitative easing when Obama was busy saving the American economy). On top of the increase in prices caused by an increase in money supply,
    there was also worldwide supply chain issues caused by Covid, exacerbated domestically by Trump's gross incompetence in dealing with the spread of the disease while the pandemic was in its infancy, and of course by all the nutcases who refused to get
    vaccinated (which resulted in the US having a Covid death rate 3x that of Canada's). The good news is that it appears Biden and the Fed have wrestled inflation to the ground, with 0% inflation over the last two month's of data and about 2% annualized
    over the last six months of data.
    If I recall, the tax cuts for the rich were $2 trillion over 10 years, which is the way these calculation are usually done.
    It's still deficit spending and added to the national debt. Along with $3 trillion Trump (GOP) spending.

    Basically, the entire debt is due to tax cuts for the rich since the Reagan era.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jan 17 12:18:22 2023
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.
    2.99 for 18 at the Fresh store a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if that was below average.

    C

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 19:57:29 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Jan 17 19:20:30 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.


    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal budget
    deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Jan 18 10:03:30 2023
    On 1/17/2023 9:57 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?

    Is fiscal policy controlled by Congress?

    How does fiscal policy work?

    Spending and taxes in the United States are largely controlled by
    Congress, although the Executive Branch does have a significant
    influence on the fiscal policies put into place in a particular
    administration.

    Spin on any direction you choose.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Jan 19 10:56:28 2023
    On 1/18/2023 10:03 AM, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/17/2023 9:57 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of
    inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money
    supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3
    trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but >>>>>> the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600
    billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021
    budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember
    correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual
    fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money
    supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and
    money supply can contract while running fiscal budget deficits. Open
    market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the
    money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?

    Is fiscal policy controlled by Congress?

    How does fiscal policy work?

    Spending and taxes in the United States are largely controlled by
    Congress, although the Executive Branch does have a significant
    influence on the fiscal policies put into place in a particular administration.

    Spin on any direction you choose.

    Or not

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Thu Jan 19 09:16:25 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:57:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.


    ~ Then that would be under Trump, no?


    Where did you get the idea that the House of Representatives is 'under' the President? If Congress doesn't approve it there is no fiscal budget.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Jan 19 09:38:36 2023
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:03:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/17/2023 9:57 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?


    ~ Is fiscal policy controlled by Congress?

    How does fiscal policy work?

    Spending and taxes in the United States are largely controlled by
    Congress, although the Executive Branch does have a significant
    influence on the fiscal policies put into place in a particular administration.

    Spin on any direction you choose.


    Biden took office only a month and a half after the Democratic house approved the budget and he could have pressured the Fed to rein in the money supply when he took office. In fact, he could have pressured the Fed to do that before he took office by
    advocating it publicly. But the Fed never did act until AFTER the CPI went through the roof.

    Apologists for the Democratic Party Super Club like Blabber, Jerry, and Blabber's sock puppets would have a much better argument that inflation of the money supply was necessary because of the slowdown caused by the pandemic and then would only have to
    defend the failure to get a handle on the money supply sooner. But the rhetorical imperative is to blame everything on anyone but the Super Club in addition to the fact they weren't able to grasp the effect that such a MASSIVE expansion of the money
    supply would create. Blabber even assured everyone that a 3.5% 'transitory' CPI would be the result. When it turned out to be almost 300% of that he tried to convince everyone he predicted that. So, quite clearly, he has still learned nothing.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Jan 19 10:02:22 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 9:38:40 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:03:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/17/2023 9:57 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?
    ~ Is fiscal policy controlled by Congress?

    How does fiscal policy work?

    Spending and taxes in the United States are largely controlled by Congress, although the Executive Branch does have a significant
    influence on the fiscal policies put into place in a particular administration.

    Spin on any direction you choose.
    Biden took office only a month and a half after the Democratic house approved the budget and he could have pressured the Fed to rein in the money supply when he took office. In fact, he could have pressured the Fed to do that before he took office by
    advocating it publicly. But the Fed never did act until AFTER the CPI went through the roof.

    Apologists for the Democratic Party Super Club like Blabber, Jerry, and Blabber's sock puppets would have a much better argument that inflation of the money supply was necessary because of the slowdown caused by the pandemic and then would only have to
    defend the failure to get a handle on the money supply sooner. But the rhetorical imperative is to blame everything on anyone but the Super Club in addition to the fact they weren't able to grasp the effect that such a MASSIVE expansion of the money
    supply would create. Blabber even assured everyone that a 3.5% 'transitory' CPI would be the result. When it turned out to be almost 300% of that he tried to convince everyone he predicted that. So, quite clearly, he has still learned nothing.

    ^^ Can't stop lying. He has obsessively reposted the quote where I endorsed the Fed's forecast of 3.5% for *FISCAL 2021*, so we know he is deliberately lying again. My personal prediction was 5%, but I did erroneously concede on that one occasion that
    the Fed probably knew more than I did. Turns out they didn't. IIRC, it ended up being 5.4% at the end of fiscal 2021.

    Meanwhile, riskytard constantly defended Paul's prediction of hyperinflation and the dollar going to zero by January 1, 2022 (i.e. infinity inflation LOL). He even desperately tried to persuade people as dumb as him (if such a person ever existed on RGP)
    that 7% inflation was "hyperinflation." LOLOL Complete idiot. And yes, the inflation did turn out to be transitory. It's been around 2% (the Fed target) over the last six months' data, and both the CPI and the PPI went negative for the latest month'
    s data. It was actually quite amazing how fast it petered out.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to C Mayhem on Thu Jan 19 11:48:40 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:18:25 PM UTC-6, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.
    2.99 for 18 at the Fresh store a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if that was below average.

    C

    I realize we are past eggs, but had an Amazon return yesterday and couldn't resist looking at the eggs. Cheapest-- $3.23 Egglands Best cage free, 1 dozen. With half the shelves devoted to eggs empty. I'm no eggspert. Supply chain issues? $4.99 for a
    whole rotisserie chicken. So it's a chicken or the egg situation.

    C

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Jan 19 13:33:39 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 9:38:40 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:03:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/17/2023 9:57 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:33 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 7:18:33 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:05:03 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:19:27 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 12:11:53 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    ~ ~ As I taught riskytard many years ago, the primary cause of inflation is typically an increase in money supply exceeding
    economic output. That would be mainly on Trump as the money supply increased more than $6 trillion during his presidency,
    .

    ~ We know that $2 trillion of it was Tax Cuts for the Rich. And $3 trillion on Republican spending when they had
    control of congress. I don't know what the other trillion was, but the fact there is a trillion dollars in question
    speaks to the enormity of the Republican problem..
    Uh, oh. Make room. Geniuses at work.

    M2 (a measure of money supply) beginning of Biden admin: 19,600 billion dollars
    One year later: 21,855 billion dollars
    2,255 billion dollar increase. $2.25 Trillion in ONE YEAR.
    Trump: 6/4=1.5 Trillion.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS

    Must have been all Trump's fault. LOL.
    ~ But wasn't that first year budget set under Trump?


    Fiscal budgets are approved by the House of Representatives. The 2021 budget was approved by the Democratic House on Dec. 27, if I remember correctly, right after Biden had won the Presidential election.

    And the fiscal budget is not the money supply although continual fiscal deficits can contribute to a higher money supply. But money supply can increase while running a fiscal breakeven or surplus and money supply can contract while running fiscal
    budget deficits. Open market operations and other tools are used by the Fed to control the money supply.

    Then that would be under Trump, no?
    ~ Is fiscal policy controlled by Congress?

    How does fiscal policy work?

    Spending and taxes in the United States are largely controlled by Congress, although the Executive Branch does have a significant
    influence on the fiscal policies put into place in a particular administration.

    Spin on any direction you choose.
    .

    Biden took office only a month and a half after the Democratic house approved the budget and he
    could have pressured the Fed to rein in the money supply when he took office.
    .

    Ah, the old “Could-a would-a.” Look up “Pressured the Fed” and see what you get…
    .
    .
    .

    In fact, he could have pressured the Fed to do that before he took office …
    .

    How? ………………………………..
    .
    .

    by advocating it publicly.
    .
    .

    But the Fed never did act until AFTER the CPI went through the roof.

    Apologists for the Democratic Party Super Club like Blabber, Jerry, and Blabber's
    .

    Apology not accepted because we’ve already shown you wrong.
    And you couldn’t/wouldn’t respond…

    .
    .
    .

    … sock puppets would have a much better argument that inflation of the money supply was necessary because of the slowdown caused by the pandemic and then would only have to defend the failure to get a handle on the money supply sooner. But the
    rhetorical imperative is to blame everything on anyone but the Super Club in addition to the fact they weren't able to grasp the effect that such a MASSIVE expansion of the money supply would create. Blabber even assured everyone that a 3.5% 'transitory'
    CPI would be the result. When it turned out to be almost 300% of that he tried to convince everyone he predicted that. So, quite clearly, he has still learned nothing.
    .
    .
    .


    “Republicans are increasingly the non-college party.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jan 19 19:56:25 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:48:45 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:18:25 PM UTC-6, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.
    2.99 for 18 at the Fresh store a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if that was below average.

    C
    I realize we are past eggs, but had an Amazon return yesterday and couldn't resist looking at the eggs. Cheapest-- $3.23 Egglands Best cage free, 1 dozen. With half the shelves devoted to eggs empty. I'm no eggspert. Supply chain issues? $4.99 for a
    whole rotisserie chicken. So it's a chicken or the egg situation.

    C

    Different breeds of chicken, for what it's worth.

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Jan 23 06:30:54 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 9:56:29 PM UTC-6, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:48:45 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:18:25 PM UTC-6, C Mayhem wrote:
    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    But it's transitory.
    2.99 for 18 at the Fresh store a couple of weeks ago. Not sure if that was below average.

    C
    I realize we are past eggs, but had an Amazon return yesterday and couldn't resist looking at the eggs. Cheapest-- $3.23 Egglands Best cage free, 1 dozen. With half the shelves devoted to eggs empty. I'm no eggspert. Supply chain issues? $4.99 for a
    whole rotisserie chicken. So it's a chicken or the egg situation.

    C
    Different breeds of chicken, for what it's worth.
    According to Amazon it was worth $4.99. Did any of your chickens get the flu? Or is that just a factory producer thing?
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgecalhoun/2023/01/21/is-inflation-created-by-corporate-greed-evidence-from-the-current-egg-flation-episode/?sh=317a46355e96

    C

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