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  • Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 10:01:36 2023
    U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg _______________________________________________

    More guns = less homicide

    U.S. gun purchases
    -1998 982,840 guns purchased
    and that remained about the same through 2005
    -2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
    and continued to increase nearly every year until
    -2020 39,695,315 guns purchased

    U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related)
    -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
    - then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016) until
    -2018 4.96 per 100,000

    Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.

    Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Jan 7 12:35:39 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:41 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
    .

    No, it does not.
    .

    U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg _______________________________________________

    More guns = less homicide
    .

    No, it STILL does not. I showed you before that there are more guns every day. .
    .



    U.S. gun purchases
    -1998 982,840 guns purchased
    and that remained about the same through 2005
    -2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
    and continued to increase nearly every year until
    -2020 39,695,315 guns purchased

    U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related)
    -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
    - then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016) until
    -2018 4.96 per 100,000

    Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.

    Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Jan 7 13:17:04 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 12:35:43 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:41 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
    .


    ~ No, it does not.


    Yes it does so. So there.


    .
    U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg _______________________________________________

    More guns = less homicide
    .


    ~ No, it STILL does not. I showed you before that there are more guns every day.


    Yes, it still does.

    You showed you before that there are more guns every day? That seems rather pointless since that is exactly what I illustrated.


    U.S. gun purchases
    -1998 982,840 guns purchased
    and that remained about the same through 2005
    -2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
    and continued to increase nearly every year until
    -2020 39,695,315 guns purchased

    U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related)
    -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
    - then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016)
    until
    -2018 4.96 per 100,000

    Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.

    Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Jan 8 08:49:31 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:17:08 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 12:35:43 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:01:41 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    Higher incarceration rate = lower homicide rate
    .

    ~ No, it does not.


    Yes it does so. So there.
    .

    *** Knew you couldn’t show. ***
    .
    .




    .
    U.S. incarceration rates vs. homicide rates https://marroninstitute.nyu.edu/uploads/content/Crime_Trends.001.jpg _______________________________________________

    More guns = less homicide
    .

    ~ No, it STILL does not. I showed you before that there are more guns every day.


    Yes, it still does.
    .

    *** Knew you couldn’t show. ***
    .
    .
    .






    You showed you before that there are more guns every day?
    .

    What?
    .
    .

    That seems rather pointless since that is exactly what I illustrated.

    *** But could not show that more guns equal less homicides… ***
    .
    .


    U.S. gun purchases
    -1998 982,840 guns purchased
    and that remained about the same through 2005
    -2006 10,036,933 guns purchased
    and continued to increase nearly every year until
    -2020 39,695,315 guns purchased

    U.S.homicide rate from all causes (+-23-24% are non-firearms related) -1998 6.17 per 100,000 and remained roughly the same until about 2006
    - then a more or less continual decline ensued (slight upticks in 2015, 2016)
    until
    -2018 4.96 per 100,000

    Gun ownership increased EXPONENTIALLY and homicides went DOWN over a 20 YEAR period.

    Not much of a supporting argument for the 'homicide is caused by too many guns' propaganda.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)