• Poll: who are the perps- 'left' or 'right'?

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 26 05:04:07 2022
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Dec 26 09:13:47 2022
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage

    Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Dec 26 12:48:58 2022
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Dec 26 15:38:16 2022
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.

    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Dec 26 17:13:21 2022
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Dec 27 07:35:44 2022
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>>>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.

    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 06:20:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>>>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?


    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 27 09:18:26 2022
    On 12/27/2022 8:20 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>>>>>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?

    It is possible that I misunderstood what you meant by what you posted.
    Why did you think only the "right" might be interested in shutting down
    our government as we know it today?



    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    I think all extremists are to be watched carefully ... whether they
    identify as "right" or "left" of "other".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 10:11:21 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>>>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 11:03:27 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Dec 27 12:36:17 2022
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power >>>>>>> 6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?

    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Dec 27 13:13:59 2022
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do >>>> criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose >>>> their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.

    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which
    "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 11:31:45 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:18:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 8:20 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?
    It is possible that I misunderstood what you meant by what you posted.


    ~ Why did you think only the "right" might be interested in shutting down
    our government as we know it today?


    Why in the world do you think that I think that?


    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.
    I think all extremists are to be watched carefully ... whether they
    identify as "right" or "left" of "other".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 11:31:47 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of >>>> shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings >>>> too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so >>>> dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do >>>> criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose >>>> their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including >>>> the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which
    "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]

    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism (
    culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"

    Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Dec 27 11:36:15 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:03:31 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do >> criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose >> their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.


    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?


    ~ If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.


    Were Jewish resistance fighters during WWII 'right-wing'?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 11:40:03 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:31:50 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have >>>> distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of >>>> shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings >>>> too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so >>>> dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including >>>> the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to >> "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists >> come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which
    "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]
    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism (
    culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"



    ~ Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.


    Like in Iran- where transgender surgery is legal?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 11:41:29 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:18:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 8:20 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?
    It is possible that I misunderstood what you meant by what you posted.
    Why did you think only the "right" might be interested in shutting down
    our government as we know it today?
    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.
    I think all extremists are to be watched carefully ... whether they
    identify as "right" or "left" of "other".


    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 27 11:47:16 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:31:50 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have >>>> distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings >>>> too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act >> like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to >> "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists >> come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]
    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism (
    culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"

    ~ Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.


    Like in Iran- where transgender surgery is legal?

    Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? That figures. They express their love by throwing them off buildings. Even MAGA doesn't usually go that far.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 27 13:54:53 2022
    On 12/27/2022 1:41 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:18:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 8:20 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand >>>>>> why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?
    It is possible that I misunderstood what you meant by what you posted.
    Why did you think only the "right" might be interested in shutting down
    our government as we know it today?
    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do >>>> criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose >>>> their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.
    I think all extremists are to be watched carefully ... whether they
    identify as "right" or "left" of "other".


    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 12:00:27 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:47:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:31:50 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually >> chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]
    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National
    Bolshevism (culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"

    ~ Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.



    Like in Iran- where transgender surgery is legal?


    ~ Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? That figures. They express their love by throwing them off buildings. Even MAGA doesn't usually go that far.


    Transgender surgery was made legal in Iran about 30 years ago. The mulalhs decided that gender dysphoria was a scientific fact. Deal with it.

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of transgender identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government, under
    condition of undergoing sex reassignment surgery, with some financial assistance being provided by the government for the costs of surgery, and with a change of sex marker on birth certificates available post-surgery.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    That doesn't mean the average Iranian is accepting of it. There are probably a lot of Iranian secular exiles in the U.S. that are horrified by it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 27 12:05:16 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:47:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:31:50 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more >> choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]
    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National
    Bolshevism (culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"

    ~ Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.



    Like in Iran- where transgender surgery is legal?
    ~ Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? That figures. They express their love by throwing them off buildings. Even MAGA doesn't usually go that far.


    Transgender surgery was made legal in Iran about 30 years ago. The mulalhs decided that gender dysphoria was a scientific fact. Deal with it.

    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of transgender identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government, under
    condition of undergoing sex reassignment surgery, with some financial assistance being provided by the government for the costs of surgery, and with a change of sex marker on birth certificates available post-surgery.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    That doesn't mean the average Iranian is accepting of it. There are probably a lot of Iranian secular exiles in the U.S. that are horrified by it.

    You dodged the question. Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? Yes or no?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 12:10:39 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:05:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:47:20 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:40:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:31:50 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:14:08 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 1:03 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:36:25 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 12:11 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals.


    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization.
    they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the
    message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.

    Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of
    shutting off power stations. I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so
    dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do
    criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose
    their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including
    the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.

    Now you raise an interesting question. Would you classify Muslim extremists as left or right wing?
    I classify extremists on all sides as "extremists" and when they act
    like criminals, I classify them as "criminals" ... choices limited to
    "left" and "right" (as I have stated many, many times) are usually
    chosen by someone with a bone to pick. There are many, many more
    choices that might be made other than those two. Religious extremists
    come in all sizes and shapes and colors and geometry.

    Do you classify Muslim extremists as left or right?

    If one has to make that distinction, I would say right wing.
    Maybe this is the proof of the pudding.

    Why do you choose the words "right wing" to describe Muslim extremists?

    [You might also help us a little more to tell us exactly to which "Muslim extremists" (and to which actions) you are referring.]
    "Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of Fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National
    Bolshevism (culturally only) and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views.[2]"

    ~ Seems like MAGA nuts and Muslim extremists would both fit nicely into that definition.



    Like in Iran- where transgender surgery is legal?
    ~ Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? That figures. They express their love by throwing them off buildings. Even MAGA doesn't usually go that far.



    Transgender surgery was made legal in Iran about 30 years ago. The mulalhs decided that gender dysphoria was a scientific fact. Deal with it.


    Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of transgender identity in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government, under
    condition of undergoing sex reassignment surgery, with some financial assistance being provided by the government for the costs of surgery, and with a change of sex marker on birth certificates available post-surgery.'
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

    That doesn't mean the average Iranian is accepting of it. There are probably a lot of Iranian secular exiles in the U.S. that are horrified by it.


    ~ You dodged the question. Are you trying to pretend that Muslim extremists embrace the LBGTQ community? Yes or no?


    What a juvenile ass.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 12:11:10 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree

    Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 27 12:43:04 2022
    On 12/27/2022 1:41 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:18:35 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 8:20 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:35:52 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 7:13 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 4:38:23 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/26/2022 2:48 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 7:13:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 12/26/2022 7:04 AM, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    ~ Those assholes likely do not vote ... criminals are just criminals. >>>>>>>

    Not the M.O. of common criminals. Most likely either 'alt-right' or 'antifa'.
    If the criminals were alt-right or antifa or any other organization. >>>>>> they deserve all the punishment the law will allow. I do not understand
    why political criminals on either side would cut power. What is the >>>>>> message?

    There are a number of the militia types who have a distorted dream of collapsing society.
    Which "society" is that? Criminals are criminals ... they all have
    distorted visions of everything.



    ~ Apparently, you agree with risky that only the "right" has dreams of >>>> shutting off power stations.


    How do you say that with a straight face after what I've said in this thread?
    It is possible that I misunderstood what you meant by what you posted.
    Why did you think only the "right" might be interested in shutting down
    our government as we know it today?
    I suppose they ran jets into buildings
    too. I do agree that some people, even otherwise normal people are so >>>> dedicated to a particular scenario of "better government" they will do >>>> criminal things to further their opinions ... some only pick and choose >>>> their sources for their pronouncements of truth. All sides (including >>>> the left and the right (no pun intended) are guilty.
    I think all extremists are to be watched carefully ... whether they
    identify as "right" or "left" of "other".

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    Being you're wrong, is this you surrendering?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 12:44:11 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree


    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.

    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 27 13:28:47 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on your
    part. Confident people speak for themselves.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 18:32:41 2022
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I >>>>> had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie?

    Splat

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 27 18:28:53 2022
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on your
    part. Confident people speak for themselves.

    Another turd drops a turd.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 16:31:00 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:

    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I >>> had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 27 16:40:25 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:32:50 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie?
    Splat

    Still dodging. LOL See how easily I can expose their lies and hypocrisy?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Dec 28 08:21:31 2022
    On 12/27/2022 6:40 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:32:50 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I >>>>>>> had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie? >> Splat

    Still dodging. LOL See how easily I can expose their lies and hypocrisy?

    Nothing and no 'one' to dodge ... as risky said:

    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where
    your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Dec 28 07:57:29 2022
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:40:29 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:32:50 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie?
    Splat
    Still dodging. LOL See how easily I can expose their lies and hypocrisy?
    .

    Still picking the low hanging fruits? This is a site for "No answers, no replies; trolling only."

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Dec 28 07:58:07 2022
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 6:21:40 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:40 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:32:50 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote: >>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie?
    Splat

    Still dodging. LOL See how easily I can expose their lies and hypocrisy?
    Nothing and no 'one' to dodge ... as risky said:

    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where
    your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.
    .

    See what I mean?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Dec 28 10:51:06 2022
    On 12/28/2022 9:58 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 6:21:40 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:40 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:32:50 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/27/2022 6:31 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/27/2022 3:28 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:44:15 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 11:55:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    'Right' and 'left' is pretty meaningless today. Just as 'conservative' and 'liberal is'.

    I agree
    ~ Is that why you said this just five days ago

    "I really did not know you were that far off in the left wing, risky. I
    had you pegged as just a little left."

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.

    I am fine with morons not liking me. Actually, I would be kind of disappointed if they did. But you still haven't convinced me that the world has appointed you as its spokesman, as you constantly try to project. It's a sign of extreme weakness on
    your part. Confident people speak for themselves.
    Another turd drops a turd.

    Are you going to address your blatant contradiction? Which one was a lie? >>>> Splat

    Still dodging. LOL See how easily I can expose their lies and hypocrisy?
    Nothing and no 'one' to dodge ... as risky said:

    No one likes you. Why don't you go away? Find a discussion group where
    your low-IQ and unsavory personality will be appreciated.
    .

    See what I mean?

    Not like the new Jerry to be licking Blab's boots.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Jan 5 05:54:36 2023
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:04:11 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    No indication, so far, of any political motivation:

    'Federal agents say one of the men confessed to knocking out the power in order to commit a burglary by emptying the cash register of a local business during the power outage.'
    https://www.npr.org/2023/01/04/1146889176/washington-electricity-power-grid-sabotage-attacks-blackout-outage

    Who the hell attacks a power substation just to burglarize a cash register? And what business owner leaves cash in the cash register overnight?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Jan 5 10:44:30 2023
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 5:54:40 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:04:11 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage
    No indication, so far, of any political motivation:

    'Federal agents say one of the men confessed to knocking out the power in order to commit a burglary by emptying the cash register of a local business during the power outage.'
    https://www.npr.org/2023/01/04/1146889176/washington-electricity-power-grid-sabotage-attacks-blackout-outage

    Who the hell attacks a power substation just to burglarize a cash register? And what business owner leaves cash in the cash register overnight?
    .

    And what cash register drawer opens with the power off?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 10 07:43:13 2023
    On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 5:04:11 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    CNN
    Around 14,000 customers impacted after substations in Tacoma area vandalized by burglars
    9 hours ago

    ABC News
    3 power substations vandalized in Washington state, over 14K lost power
    6 hours ago

    KTVB
    Over 7000 left without power after three Pierce County substation facilities attacked
    6 hours ago

    KIRO Seattle
    3 Pierce County utility substations vandalized, cutting power to more than 14K on Christmas
    16 hours ago
    Local coverage


    'A suspect was in custody Monday in a string of shootings that may have targeted Democratic leaders in Albuquerque, officials said Monday.

    The suspect, whose name was not released, was being held on charges unrelated to the six shootings at or near Democratic officials' homes and offices, police Chief Harold Medina said at a news conference.

    New Mexico's incoming state house speaker is the sixth Democrat official to be the apparent target of gunfire since early December, police said earlier Monday.'
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-custody-sixth-shooting-reported-new-mexico-officials-homes-off-rcna65017

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