• If guns cause gun crime why the difference?

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 20 12:59:37 2022
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age group
    overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or Pacific
    Islanders, the investigators said.' https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 20 13:20:08 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age group
    overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or Pacific
    Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?

    Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?

    Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 13:45:14 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?

    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.


    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 20 14:29:58 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.

    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.

    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.

    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 07:59:28 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes.
    .

    Yea, actually cars CAN cause traffic fatalities. If you have no cars, you have no traffic fatalities.
    And guns CAN cause gun crimes because if you don’t have guns, you can’t have gun crimes.
    .

    Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.
    .

    Who’s “Gun-grabber?” And no, actually, it wasn’t a test. It’s an illogical statement. Now see if you
    can address it now that’s it’s explained. Or, admit you ‘fail’ this simple ‘test.’
    .
    .


    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age group
    overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or Pacific
    Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities…
    .

    Wait a minute. How can you have a firearm-related fatality if firearms don’t cause them?
    .
    .

    … in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    .

    (Gun nuts are weird people....)

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 16:00:20 2022
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Splashie on Wed Dec 21 09:52:40 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:36:31 PM UTC-5, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    That's my line: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/n62V7BGOMyg/m/JT6oDVuuBAAJ


    Splashie
    Jun 11, 2020, 10:55:38 AM
    to
    Guns don't kill people. Bullets fired from guns kill people.

    Michael

    Guns don't kill people, its those darn bullets, guns just make them go really fast

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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Dec 21 09:36:26 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks

    That's my line: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/n62V7BGOMyg/m/JT6oDVuuBAAJ


    Splashie
    Jun 11, 2020, 10:55:38 AM
    to
    Guns don't kill people. Bullets fired from guns kill people.

    Michael

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 18:00:03 2022
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    Electricity doesn't kill people, people kill people.

    --bks

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Dec 21 11:16:54 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.


    ~ I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.


    You ran away in full flight immediately trying to change the subject to the Fentanyl irrelevancy.

    There are 400 million guns in America. IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An
    overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    What you and your 'liberal' support drones are running away from is that the primary cause of gun violence in America is a social and moral breakdown. And it's a social and moral breakdown that is encouraged by people like you who portray and excuse
    criminals as engaged in a legitimate 'war'. As always, you don't give a shit about the black people in America who are victims of your 'soldiers' and who want more police in their communities, not less. The death sentence for gun murders and
    incarcerating otherwise violent criminals for life is the first step toward a solution but not the only step needed.

    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.


    ~ It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.


    In a single year, law enforcement seized enough illegal Fentanyl in this country to kill every American. We'll have to imagine the small percentage those seizures represent of the total illegal Fentanyl circulating. The illegal Fentanyl circulating will
    surely DWARF legally prescribed Fentanyl. For all intents and purposes, Fentanyl is a drug whose intended purpose is its illegal use.

    Guns are exactly the opposite. Your 'countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes' is nothing more than a laughably weak rhetorical flourish.


    ~ We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    The logic problem is this:

    'IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America
    are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.'

    That's the obvious fact you're fleeing from.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Wed Dec 21 11:32:03 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks


    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.

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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 11:44:35 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.

    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Splashie on Wed Dec 21 11:49:45 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above

    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Dec 21 12:19:36 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:59:31 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes.
    .

    Yea, actually cars CAN cause traffic fatalities. If you have no cars, you have no traffic fatalities.
    And guns CAN cause gun crimes because if you don’t have guns, you can’t have gun crimes.
    .

    Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.
    .

    Who’s “Gun-grabber?”
    .

    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .

    And no, actually, it wasn’t a test. It’s an illogical statement. Now see if you
    can address it now that’s it’s explained. Or, admit you ‘fail’ this simple ‘test.’
    .

    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .

    And so it goes through the rest of my unanswered, unaddressed reply.
    .

    Really, Risky, are you that far down the NRA rabbit hole?.
    .

    *** No Reply Expected***
    .
    .
    .





    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities…
    .

    Wait a minute. How can you have a firearm-related fatality if firearms don’t cause them?
    .
    .

    … in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    .

    (Gun nuts are weird people....)

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Dec 21 12:23:55 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:19:39 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:59:31 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes.
    .

    Yea, actually cars CAN cause traffic fatalities. If you have no cars, you have no traffic fatalities.
    And guns CAN cause gun crimes because if you don’t have guns, you can’t have gun crimes.
    .

    Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.
    .

    Who’s “Gun-grabber?”
    .

    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    And no, actually, it wasn’t a test. It’s an illogical statement. Now see if you
    can address it now that’s it’s explained. Or, admit you ‘fail’ this simple ‘test.’
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .

    And so it goes through the rest of my unanswered, unaddressed reply.
    .

    Really, Risky, are you that far down the NRA rabbit hole?.
    .

    *** No Reply Expected***
    .
    .
    .





    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities…
    .

    Wait a minute. How can you have a firearm-related fatality if firearms don’t cause them?
    .
    .

    … in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    .

    (Gun nuts are weird people....)


    There are still 400 million guns in America. IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An
    overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    *** No Reply From Gun Nuts Noted ***

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 12:30:50 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that
    age group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    ~ I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.


    You ran away in full flight immediately trying to change the subject to the Fentanyl irrelevancy.
    .

    And you ran away 'in full flight immediately' when I showed you your NRA errors..
    .
    .
    .


    There are 400 million guns in America. IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE ..
    .

    LOL!
    .

    Do you suppose cars are the primary cause of car accidents?
    Do you suppose rocks are the primary cause of rock injuries?
    Do you suppose airplanes are the primary cause of airplane accidents?
    .

    Heh, the NRA sure has you on a string…
    .
    .
    .






    THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE.
    That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    What you and your 'liberal' support drones.
    .

    Support drone? WTF is that?
    .

    Oh, yea, *** No Replies Available ***
    .
    .



    .

    … are running away from is that the primary cause of gun violence in America is a social and moral breakdown. And it's a social and moral breakdown that is encouraged by people like you who portray and excuse criminals as engaged in a legitimate 'war'
    . As always, you don't give a shit about the black people in America who are victims of your 'soldiers' and who want more police in their communities, not less. The death sentence for gun murders and incarcerating otherwise violent criminals for life is
    the first step toward a solution but not the only step needed.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    ~ It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.


    In a single year, law enforcement seized enough illegal Fentanyl in this country to kill every American. We'll have to imagine the small percentage those seizures represent of the total illegal Fentanyl circulating. The illegal Fentanyl circulating
    will surely DWARF legally prescribed Fentanyl. For all intents and purposes, Fentanyl is a drug whose intended purpose is its illegal use.

    Guns are exactly the opposite. Your 'countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes' is nothing more than a laughably weak rhetorical flourish.


    ~ We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    The logic problem is this:

    'IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America
    are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.'

    That's the obvious fact you're fleeing from.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 12:36:25 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:23:59 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:19:39 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:59:31 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes.
    .

    Yea, actually cars CAN cause traffic fatalities. If you have no cars, you have no traffic fatalities.
    And guns CAN cause gun crimes because if you don’t have guns, you can’t have gun crimes.
    .

    Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.
    .

    Who’s “Gun-grabber?”
    .

    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    ********** STILL No Reply Noted *******
    .
    .
    .
    .
    And no, actually, it wasn’t a test. It’s an illogical statement. Now see if you
    can address it now that’s it’s explained. Or, admit you ‘fail’ this simple ‘test.’
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .
    .
    .

    ********** STILL No Reply Noted *******
    .
    .
    .

    And so it goes through the rest of my unanswered, unaddressed reply.
    .

    Really, Risky, are you that far down the NRA rabbit hole?.
    .

    *** No Reply Expected***
    .
    .
    ********** And None Received *******
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .





    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities…
    .

    Wait a minute. How can you have a firearm-related fatality if firearms don’t cause them?
    .
    .

    … in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    .

    (Gun nuts are weird people....)

    .
    There are still 400 million guns in America.
    .

    Yea, so? Does that keep you from replying, responding or showing?
    .
    .
    IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America
    are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    *** No Reply From Gun Nuts Noted ***
    .

    Yea, that’s what I keep showing…..

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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 13:00:50 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.
    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.

    You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Splashie on Wed Dec 21 13:48:24 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.


    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.

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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 14:55:42 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.

    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you to
    clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Splashie on Wed Dec 21 18:21:32 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you to
    clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Dec 21 18:25:52 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 11:19:48 2022
    On 12/21/2022 1:16 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.


    ~ I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.


    You ran away in full flight immediately trying to change the subject to the Fentanyl irrelevancy.

    There are 400 million guns in America. IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An
    overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    What you and your 'liberal' support drones are running away from is that the primary cause of gun violence in America is a social and moral breakdown. And it's a social and moral breakdown that is encouraged by people like you who portray and excuse
    criminals as engaged in a legitimate 'war'. As always, you don't give a shit about the black people in America who are victims of your 'soldiers' and who want more police in their communities, not less. The death sentence for gun murders and
    incarcerating otherwise violent criminals for life is the first step toward a solution but not the only step needed.

    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.


    ~ It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.


    In a single year, law enforcement seized enough illegal Fentanyl in this country to kill every American. We'll have to imagine the small percentage those seizures represent of the total illegal Fentanyl circulating. The illegal Fentanyl circulating
    will surely DWARF legally prescribed Fentanyl. For all intents and purposes, Fentanyl is a drug whose intended purpose is its illegal use.

    Guns are exactly the opposite. Your 'countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes' is nothing more than a laughably weak rhetorical flourish.


    ~ We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    The logic problem is this:

    'IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America
    are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.'

    That's the obvious fact you're fleeing from.

    Blab is only aware of his facts ... other facts are forbidden territory.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 11:21:53 2022
    On 12/21/2022 8:25 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago

    Some "facts" are not allowed in this group.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 09:38:55 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:25:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that
    age group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.


    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.

    ~ BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago


    That's without taking into account the amounts not seized.

    More people are killed annually in the U.S. by Fentanyl than guns and THAT'S without taking into account the huge number of lives RUINED by Fentanyl without killing.

    I'm sorry you're too thick to understand why Fentanyl is such a big deal, Blabbermouth.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 11:41:07 2022
    On 12/21/2022 8:25 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago


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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 09:44:00 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:25:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that
    age group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    ~ BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/633288962500003800b8dae7.png?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale&format=webp

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 12:13:52 2022
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you to
    clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.

    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Dec 22 12:16:39 2022
    On 12/21/2022 2:36 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:23:59 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:19:39 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:59:31 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes.
    .

    Yea, actually cars CAN cause traffic fatalities. If you have no cars, you have no traffic fatalities.
    And guns CAN cause gun crimes because if you don’t have guns, you can’t have gun crimes.
    .

    Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.
    .

    Who’s “Gun-grabber?”
    .

    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    ********** STILL No Reply Noted *******
    .
    .
    .
    .
    And no, actually, it wasn’t a test. It’s an illogical statement. Now see if you
    can address it now that’s it’s explained. Or, admit you ‘fail’ this simple ‘test.’
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .
    .
    .

    ********** STILL No Reply Noted *******
    .
    .
    .

    And so it goes through the rest of my unanswered, unaddressed reply.
    .

    Really, Risky, are you that far down the NRA rabbit hole?.
    .

    *** No Reply Expected***
    .
    .
    ********** And None Received *******
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .





    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that age
    group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662

    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities…
    .

    Wait a minute. How can you have a firearm-related fatality if firearms don’t cause them?
    .
    .

    … in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    .

    (Gun nuts are weird people....)

    .
    There are still 400 million guns in America.
    .

    Yea, so? Does that keep you from replying, responding or showing?
    .
    .
    IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE. That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America
    are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    *** No Reply From Gun Nuts Noted ***
    .

    Yea, that’s what I keep showing…..

    LOGIC from the master baiter ... priceless. he speaks

    Jerrioppolous

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Dec 22 10:39:53 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'


    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.


    ~ He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.


    Don't pressure him. I think he can get it given enough time.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 13:02:21 2022
    On 12/22/2022 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'


    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.


    ~ He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.


    Don't pressure him. I think he can get it given enough time.

    There may not be that much time left!

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 11:39:58 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that
    age group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian or
    Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    ~ I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.


    You ran away in full flight immediately trying to change the subject to the Fentanyl irrelevancy.

    I didn't run away from anything. You asked a question and I answered it, and the answer made you look like a fool.


    There are 400 million guns in America. IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE.

    That is a logic fail. It does not follow.

    That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the >greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.

    So? You can break the stats down into any number of categories that will differ. Men/women, children/adults, high-IQ/low-IQ, rich/poor, educated/uneducated, and on and on. That doesn't mean that flooding the country with guns won't result in more gun
    violence. You need to learn to think.

    What you and your 'liberal' support drones are running away from is that the primary cause of gun violence in America is a social and moral breakdown.

    You can have all the moral breakdown you can imagine, but if there is no guns you will have no gun violence. If you flood the guns you will have more gun violence than if you had very few guns or no guns at all. This should be obvious even to dimwits
    like you.


    And it's a social and moral breakdown that is encouraged by people like you who portray and excuse criminals as engaged in a legitimate 'war'. As always, you don't give a shit about the black people in America who are victims of your 'soldiers' and who
    want more police in their communities, not less. The death sentence for gun murders and incarcerating otherwise violent criminals for life is the first step toward a solution but not the only step needed.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    ~ It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does flooding
    the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.


    In a single year, law enforcement seized enough illegal Fentanyl in this country to kill every American. We'll have to imagine the small percentage those seizures represent of the total illegal Fentanyl circulating. The illegal Fentanyl circulating
    will surely DWARF legally prescribed Fentanyl. For all intents and purposes, Fentanyl is a drug whose intended purpose is its illegal use.

    Guns are exactly the opposite. Your 'countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes' is nothing more than a laughably weak rhetorical flourish.

    That doesn't change the fact that flooding the country with guns will result in more gun violence than if guns were few and far between. It's the same with fentanyl (an inanimate object). Flood the country with fentanyl and you will have more problems
    associated with fentanyl (deaths, ODs, addiction, etc.) than if the supply is extremely limited. That's why authorities try to low the supply of fentanyl.

    ~ We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.


    The logic problem is this:

    'IF GUNS ARE THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE THEN ALL AMERICAN ETHNIC GROUPS WOULD EXPERIENCE SIMILAR LEVELS OF GUN VIOLENCE.

    That's completely false. It doesn't matter if you type it in capital letters or not.


    That obvious correlation is plain as day. The facts are just the opposite. An overwhelming percentage of the guns in America are owned by whites yet the greatest rate of gun violence is in the black community.'


    So? If you flood the country with guns they will make their way into the hands of people more inclined to gun violence (ex. males).


    That's the obvious fact you're fleeing from.

    The obvious fact you are fleeing from is that flooding the country with guns results in more gun violence than not flooding the country with guns.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 11:41:59 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:44:03 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:25:55 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:30:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:45:18 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:20:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:59:41 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    Cars don't cause traffic fatalities and guns don't cause gun crimes. Gun-grabbers fail this simple IQ test.

    'Dec 20 (Reuters) - The increase in firearm-related fatalities among U.S. youth has taken a disproportionate toll in the Black community, which accounted for 47% of gun deaths among children and teens in 2020 despite representing 15% of that
    age group overall, according to a new analysis.

    The rate of firearm-related deaths per 100,000 U.S. kids in 2020 was 5.2 overall. But it was much higher for Blacks at 17.4 per 100,000, and 9.1 among Native Americans. The rate was 4.01 for Hispanics, 3.4 among whites, and 1.32 among Asian
    or Pacific Islanders, the investigators said.'
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2799662


    How different is the rate of firearm-related fatalities in gun-free Japan from firearm-related fatalities among Asian or Pacific Islanders in awash-with-guns America?
    ~ Looks to be about 16 times higher in awash-with-guns America. What's your point?


    Then using your assertion (which is always suspect) it's about 210 times higher among black youths.

    You ran away from addressing the difference which completely invalidates the guns-cause-gun-crime argument.
    I didn't "run away" from anything. You asked a question and I answered it. It clearly wasn't the answer you were looking for, because it ran diametrically opposed to your hypothesis.
    ~ Does fentanyl cause drug overdoses? If not, why is it such a focus of attention?


    The overwhelming majority of guns are purchased legally for legal purposes. That isn't true of Fentanyl. This is another example of your flood-the-zone-with-shit style of troll.
    It's an irrelevant distinction. The existence of 400 million guns makes it very easy to buy or steal guns for illegal purposes, and countless legal purchased guns are used by the purchasers or someone close to them for illegal purposes. Does
    flooding the country with fentanyl cause more fentanyl overdoses? Yes or no? Try not to dodge this time. Face questions head-on like I do. Otherwise it make it look like you have been defeated yet again.

    We know how much gun death there is in the US with 400 million guns flooding the country. We also know that there would be zero gun deaths if there were zero guns in the country. So fill in the middle of that graph for me and show it. It would be
    interesting to see what shape you come up with, given your paucity of logic skills.
    ~ BBC
    US seizes enough fentanyl in 2022 to kill every American
    Yesterday
    New York Post

    DEA seized enough fentanyl doses to kill every American in 2022
    6 hours ago
    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/633288962500003800b8dae7.png?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale&format=webp

    So flooding the country with potentially harmful objects results in more harm. Is he finally getting it??

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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Dec 22 11:45:34 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Splashie on Thu Dec 22 16:04:24 2022
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael

    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to da pickle on Thu Dec 22 15:36:29 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words >> "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert object at all.

    Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible? An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer: Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Splashie on Fri Dec 23 07:44:38 2022
    On 12/22/2022 5:36 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking you
    to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words >>>> "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.

    Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible? An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer: Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael

    Try to understand that "who" and "what" are both involved in your
    schedule. Who killed and what killed whatever you want in your list are
    both involved.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Splashie on Fri Dec 23 12:29:23 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking
    you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert object at all.


    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.



    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer: Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Dec 23 12:54:18 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking
    you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in >> death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .

    If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me from
    bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Dec 23 12:58:08 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was
    asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in >> death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .

    If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me from
    bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’

    Nor does fentanyl, apparently. Inanimate object.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Splashie on Fri Dec 23 14:06:09 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:36:31 PM UTC-5, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    That's my line: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gambling.poker/c/n62V7BGOMyg/m/JT6oDVuuBAAJ


    Splashie
    Jun 11, 2020, 10:55:38 AM
    to
    Guns don't kill people. Bullets fired from guns kill people.

    Michael

    I believe that Chris Rock did a bit on this at least 10 years ago.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Dec 23 15:44:51 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was
    asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in >> death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .



    ~ If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me from
    bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’


    Because people kill people. Duh.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Dec 23 15:49:39 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:58:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was
    asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .

    If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me
    from bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’


    ~ Nor does fentanyl, apparently. Inanimate object.


    And the obvious way to reduce the improper use of fentanyl, which is exactly how it is PRIMARILY used, is to increase the penalties for improper use. That's exactly why using a gun to kill an innocent person is treated differently from using a gun in
    self-defense. Fentanyl is murder.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Dec 23 15:56:06 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:49:42 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    Fentanyl is murder.

    That makes no sense, but a fentanyl pill is an inanimate object and therefore fentanyl cannot kill you, right? You taught us that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Splashie@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sat Dec 24 07:19:29 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 5:44:49 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 5:36 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking
    you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in >>>> death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute >> knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert >> object at all.

    Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible? An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    Try to understand that "who" and "what" are both involved in your
    schedule. Who killed and what killed whatever you want in your list are
    both involved.

    Who is not involved at all. The question is about the design and intended use of the inanimate objects. With that in mind, the correct answer is obviously C. Cars are designed to transport people from point A to point B, and if operated correctly (hence
    the need for licensing and regulation), they do so without killing anyone. Electricity, as used by humans, is designed to power devices that illuminate our homes, entertain us, and allow us to communicate with each other on Usenet and elsewhere in real
    time or a reasonably close approximation - and when operated correctly, doesn't kill anyone.

    Guns OTOH are literally designed for the express purpose of killing people (and other animals) efficiently with little risk to the one doing the killing. If operated correctly for their intended purpose (not necessarily legally, but correctly) they kill.
    other human beings. For all you gun fetishists that like to imagine that their noble purpose is purely for self-defense - what good would they be as self-defense if they WEREN'T able to quickly kill someone threatening your life or property?

    Michael

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Splashie on Sat Dec 24 10:25:53 2022
    On 12/24/2022 9:19 AM, Splashie wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 5:44:49 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 5:36 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was asking
    you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words >>>>>> "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in >>>>>> death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute >>>> knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert >>>> object at all.

    Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible? An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    Try to understand that "who" and "what" are both involved in your
    schedule. Who killed and what killed whatever you want in your list are
    both involved.

    Who is not involved at all. The question is about the design and intended use of the inanimate objects. With that in mind, the correct answer is obviously C. Cars are designed to transport people from point A to point B, and if operated correctly (
    hence the need for licensing and regulation), they do so without killing anyone. Electricity, as used by humans, is designed to power devices that illuminate our homes, entertain us, and allow us to communicate with each other on Usenet and elsewhere in
    real time or a reasonably close approximation - and when operated correctly, doesn't kill anyone.

    Guns OTOH are literally designed for the express purpose of killing people (and other animals) efficiently with little risk to the one doing the killing. If operated correctly for their intended purpose (not necessarily legally, but correctly) they
    kill.other human beings. For all you gun fetishists that like to imagine that their noble purpose is purely for self-defense - what good would they be as self-defense if they WEREN'T able to quickly kill someone threatening your life or property?

    Michael

    Michael, Blabberboy and Jerrioppolous are afflicted with intentional
    bullshit emissions ... you seem only to be dedicated to a particular
    attitude toward guns and do not see the errors in your attempts at
    logic. [Both of them may come to your aid, but you should shy away from
    their "expertise.]

    Guns are designed to be used for many reasons ... for many (and maybe
    most in earlier times) guns were an efficient means of obtaining food.
    And also from earlier times, guns were used to prevent others from
    harming others including police and military and self defense. Guns
    have been used legally and illegally for a quite long time. Deer
    hunters still use them but most sit idle in homes for self defense or
    just because the owners have held them for way too many years.

    Some people steal guns to be used to rob and threaten and murder other
    people. These are criminals. A very small percentage of all firearms
    of all sorts are used illegally in any way. Most/almost-all guns are
    never used for anything at all.

    There are some people (not many, but not just a few either) that are
    worried that the "government" (all of the "governments") might someday
    attempt to take away all guns ... hence you hear the phrase "when guns
    are outlawed, only 'outlaws' will have guns" ... second amendment being
    of no more use. These people do not want to be like other countries or
    cities or towns where guns are outlawed. They want to be left alone
    with their guns ... these folks remember when what is now the United
    States of America was not at all like it was two or three or four
    hundred years ago.

    Most folks with guns in their home for self protection want to keep
    their guns ... their guns are for self protection ... they have (in my
    opinion) good reasons for having their guns and do not think your
    opinion of the purpose of guns is or any value to the real world.

    People kill animals and people with guns ... the guns do not go off by themselves. Their purpose is sometimes used to kill ... sometimes to
    prevent killing ... sometimes to prevent threats of great bodily harm.
    Misuse of guns by criminals to rob without killing is just another
    criminal act.

    [A malfunctioning car can kill people ... an electric power failure can
    kill people ... just because you hate guns does not allow others to be influenced by your prejudice.]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Dec 24 11:15:02 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:44:54 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was
    asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .

    ~ If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me
    from bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’


    Because people kill people. Duh.
    .

    *** Knew you couldn't answer ***

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Dec 24 11:21:27 2022
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:49:42 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:58:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I was
    asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
    Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael
    .

    If an excess of guns aren’t the problem, why do they block us all from taking one aboard a flight? Why can’t I take mine to a local hockey game? Why are our local sport venues preventing you from bringing one inside? Why does city hall keep me
    from bringing one inside? After all, ‘Guns don’t kill people.’
    ~ Nor does fentanyl, apparently. Inanimate object.


    .

    And the obvious way to reduce the improper use of fentanyl, which is exactly how it is PRIMARILY
    used, is to increase the penalties for improper use.
    .

    LOL!
    How'd that work for guns and all the dead in the Las Vegas Shooting?
    How's that work for all the dead kids in school shootings?

    Yea, them kid killers were sure worried about the penalty....
    .
    .
    .

    That's exactly why using a gun to kill an innocent person is treated differently from using a gun in self-defense. Fentanyl is murder.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Daffo Dils@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Jan 7 16:53:54 2023
    On Saturday, 24 December 2022 at 20:21:30 UTC+1, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:49:42 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:58:11 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:54:21 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:29:27 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 3:36:33 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 1:45 PM, Splashie wrote:
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/21/2022 8:21 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:55:46 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 1:00:54 PM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:49:48 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, Splashie wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 8:00:31 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people. >>>>>>>>>>
    --bks
    I know you are suffering from terminal 'liberalism' but wake-up call - - guns don't have a magical power that makes their owner want to commit murder, nor do cars, or electricity. DUH.


    ~ Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?
    A) Cars
    B) Electricity
    C) Guns
    D) All of the above
    E) None of the above

    Michael


    D) All of the above
    LOL. A classic 'splashy' 'DUH!'.
    ~ You're seriously answering D? That is, you believe the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people and that they do so when used correctly?

    Michael


    You seriously fashioned a shit-stupid argument and now you're trying to salvage it by lying? Where did I say that the primary purpose of cars and electricity is to kill people? Go ahead- put your money where your mouth is.
    You answered D) All of the above to the question "Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?" when "all of the above" includes cars and electricity (and guns). And I'm not lying, I
    was asking you to clarify whether that indeed was your response to the multiple choice question I asked. If your answer is not D), then here's your second opportunity to clarify:

    _____________________

    Michael


    I'll give you a chance to try to figure out why my answer was correct to this question of yours:

    'Which of the following things, when used correctly and for their primary purpose, kill people?'

    I'll give you three days. I don't want to rush you.
    He splashed out, risky ... he has a distorted understanding of the words
    "primary purpose" and fact that cars definitely result sometimes in
    death even when they are involved in an "accident".

    We may not hear from him again on this one.

    If an accident happens, the car was not used correctly, was it?

    Michael
    Look up the word "accident" ... just because you accidentally shoot
    yourself in the foot does not make the GUN responsible ... or substitute
    knife or stairs or curb ... or snowbank or most anything else any inert
    object at all.
    ~ Who the fuck said the inanimate object was responsible?


    Then why are you going spastic because I said an inanimate object was not responsible?


    ~ An accident is generally caused by operator error. The bullet fired into my foot caused the injury, but under that scenario I would be responsible.


    You have to either admit that you agree with what I'm asserting or admit that you're too dense to understand your own question. I thought you could get it if you thought about it more but I may have overestimated your intelligence.

    It was a very simple question. Let me repeat it for you and get your answer:
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    C) Guns
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    Michael
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    ~ Nor does fentanyl, apparently. Inanimate object.


    .

    And the obvious way to reduce the improper use of fentanyl, which is exactly how it is PRIMARILY
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    .

    LOL!
    How'd that work for guns and all the dead in the Las Vegas Shooting?
    How's that work for all the dead kids in school shootings?

    Yea, them kid killers were sure worried about the penalty....
    .
    .
    .

    That's exactly why using a gun to kill an innocent person is treated differently from using a gun in self-defense. Fentanyl is murder.
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