• Choose your "side" "option"

    From da pickle@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 18 10:30:47 2022
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Dec 18 10:38:23 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.


    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 12:53:10 2022
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or
    dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc. >>
    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.


    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.

    Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing?
    What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first
    place?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Dec 18 12:44:38 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or
    dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state >> ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.


    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    .

    Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing?
    .
    Taxes..

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Dec 18 22:32:31 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:30:58 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.

    There is no deduction for children any more, just a basic 'family' one. That cost us a great deal a couple of years ago.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Dec 18 23:53:59 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or
    dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any
    more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard
    to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying
    home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or
    two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state >> ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ...
    that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.



    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.


    ~ Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing?
    What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first
    place?


    For inheritance and child support/responsibility reasons, mostly. I think, in the past, at least in some areas, a blood test was required to get a marriage license. To screen for STDs?

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Dec 19 08:18:32 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:54:02 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or
    dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in
    charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my
    "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any >> more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything
    like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard >> to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying >> home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or >> two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why
    have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm.
    No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when
    someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state >> ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ... >> that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state
    they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.



    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing?
    What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first
    place?
    For inheritance and child support/responsibility reasons, mostly. I think, in the past, at least in some areas, a blood test was required to get a marriage license. To screen for STDs?

    I know it was in Texas in the 80s. But not any more

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Dec 19 10:24:13 2022
    On 12/19/2022 10:18 AM, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:54:02 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or >>>>> dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in >>>>> charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my >>>>> "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any >>>>> more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything >>>>> like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard >>>>> to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying >>>>> home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or >>>>> two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why >>>>> have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm. >>>>> No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of
    them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when >>>>> someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state >>>>> ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ... >>>>> that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state >>>>> they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.



    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing? >>> What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first
    place?
    For inheritance and child support/responsibility reasons, mostly. I think, in the past, at least in some areas, a blood test was required to get a marriage license. To screen for STDs?

    I know it was in Texas in the 80s. But not any more

    I was referring to "federal" stuff ... but you are correct, the "old"
    laws do not work when you can redefine "words" like "male" and "female"
    into whatever you want them to mean.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Dec 19 08:38:20 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 8:24:23 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/19/2022 10:18 AM, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:54:02 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or >>>>> dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in >>>>> charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my >>>>> "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any >>>>> more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more?

    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything >>>>> like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard >>>>> to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying >>>>> home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or >>>>> two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why >>>>> have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm. >>>>> No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of >>>>> them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when >>>>> someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ... >>>>> that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state >>>>> they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the
    national level.



    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing? >>> What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first
    place?
    For inheritance and child support/responsibility reasons, mostly. I think, in the past, at least in some areas, a blood test was required to get a marriage license. To screen for STDs?

    I know it was in Texas in the 80s. But not any more

    ~ I was referring to "federal" stuff ...


    What 'federal stuff'?


    but you are correct, the "old"
    laws do not work when you can redefine "words" like "male" and "female"
    into whatever you want them to mean.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Dec 19 10:44:33 2022
    On 12/19/2022 10:38 AM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 8:24:23 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/19/2022 10:18 AM, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:54:02 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:53:20 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/18/2022 12:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> If the "choice" is laissez-faire capitalism or absolute communism or >>>>>>> dictatorship/kingdom or some-other-one-person (or no-person/group) in >>>>>>> charge sort of thing ... please select or propose your option.

    I pick something sort of small "l" libertarian ideas.

    Anything that prevents one size fits all sorts of options.

    Minimal rules and powers that affect me in my home ... and then in my >>>>>>> "area" (close to home, neighborhood, city/two/county/state/country ... etc.

    You?

    Do we really need "that" much government involved in "family" stuff any >>>>>>> more? How much?

    Do we really need government intervention in "marriage" any more? >>>>>>>
    It really is complicated ... after all, we had the KKK and everything >>>>>>> like that for a long time. We do have to have that taken care of. Hard >>>>>>> to choose how much to "tolerate" and how much to let go.

    Wasn't the marriage (and children) deductions for income taxes
    originally associated with husband/man working and wife/female staying >>>>>>> home and raising the family?

    Just do away with it unless it is that way ... maybe allow two guys or >>>>>>> two girls to do if if one of them is a stay at home raising the
    children. If the two (or three or whatever) don't have children, why >>>>>>> have it at all for them? Times have changed.

    Complicated ... maybe each state might do it differently ... hummmmm. >>>>>>> No, we cannot have states doing ANYTHING differently. One or two of >>>>>>> them may get things "wrong". Maybe the Fed could only intervene when >>>>>>> someone in one of those crazy states does not want to live in that state
    ... wants to move out to a state that does things "right"/correctly ... >>>>>>> that might work ... wouldn't it?

    Wow ... every person would have the option to live in whichever state >>>>>>> they wanted to ... no problem.

    Still have those problems with man/woman/other definitions on the >>>>>>> national level.



    There is no reason for a same-sex marriage to not be legally recognized. That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Why is "marriage" a government problem? Isn't marriage religious thing? >>>>> What was the national reason for "recognizing" marriage in the first >>>>> place?
    For inheritance and child support/responsibility reasons, mostly. I think, in the past, at least in some areas, a blood test was required to get a marriage license. To screen for STDs?

    I know it was in Texas in the 80s. But not any more

    ~ I was referring to "federal" stuff ...


    What 'federal stuff'?


    but you are correct, the "old"
    laws do not work when you can redefine "words" like "male" and "female"
    into whatever you want them to mean.

    I think you were talking about male/female/other stuff. Sorry.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Dec 19 11:36:11 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.


    Name one.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Dec 20 07:46:03 2022
    On 12/19/2022 1:36 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.


    Name one.

    13/50 States and one Nation ... it has been a problem from the first and continues to be. No one wants to talk about any individual "problem"
    ... just rant about how one side or the other side (as if there were
    only two) will destroy/solve "the" problem of the day.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 20 07:52:21 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.


    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 20 08:18:27 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Dec 20 10:30:58 2022
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?

    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 08:40:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 11:10:47 2022
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"

    Dick and Jane

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 09:13:26 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 11:30:31 2022
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)? >>>> [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.

    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 09:42:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)? >>>> [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.

    You gave up that easy? I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 09:48:09 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:42:22 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.


    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Dec 20 12:07:26 2022
    On 12/20/2022 11:48 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:42:22 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.


    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.

    In this modern world, he can indeed choose to be a faggot if he wants to.

    If it quacks like a faggot and all that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 10:11:07 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:07:36 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:48 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:42:22 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.


    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    In this modern world, he can indeed choose to be a faggot if he wants to.

    If it quacks like a faggot and all that.

    If only right-wingers had the self-awareness to know how pathetic they are, but it will never happen.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 10:52:49 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 12:48:25 2022
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.

    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 13:04:09 2022
    On 12/20/2022 12:52 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/

    Leave it to you to find a good example of possible bias in your choice.

    [Apparently, you do not have a dick. Sorry, (), maybe we should leave
    you alone ... even more than you are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 12:15:16 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:52 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
    Leave it to you to find a good example of possible bias in your choice.

    [Apparently, you do not have a dick. Sorry, (), maybe we should leave
    you alone ... even more than you are.

    It seems you are the biased one. I go with the preponderance of expert opinion every time.

    https://policysearch.ama-assn.org/policyfinder/detail/medical%20spectrum%20of%20gender?uri=%2FAMADoc%2Fdirectives.xml-D-295.312.xml

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 12:27:29 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:52 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
    Leave it to you to find a good example of possible bias in your choice.

    [Apparently, you do not have a dick. Sorry, (), maybe we should leave
    you alone ... even more than you are.
    It seems you are the biased one. I go with the preponderance of expert opinion every time.

    .

    He goes (trolls) for whatever gets him attention...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Tue Dec 20 12:31:20 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:27:32 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:52 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
    Leave it to you to find a good example of possible bias in your choice.

    [Apparently, you do not have a dick. Sorry, (), maybe we should leave
    you alone ... even more than you are.
    It seems you are the biased one. I go with the preponderance of expert opinion every time.

    .

    He goes (trolls) for whatever gets him attention...


    I think he'd get more attention if he could make a coherent point once in a while. He is addicted to doubletalk and gibberish. The sad thing is that I think he believes it makes him sound clever.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 20 13:55:04 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:18:31 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.



    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    ~ Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?


    To restrain the power of the state over the People.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 13:56:43 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?


    ~ Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?


    It is until someone makes it explicitly public.


    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 13:59:19 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:11:11 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:07:36 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:48 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:42:22 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.


    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    In this modern world, he can indeed choose to be a faggot if he wants to.

    If it quacks like a faggot and all that.


    ~ If only right-wingers had the self-awareness to know how pathetic they are, but it will never happen.


    Look who's talking.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 13:58:02 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]


    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"


    ~ Dick and Jane


    Dicks are definitely male.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Dec 20 14:06:51 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)? >>>> [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.



    ~ What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop
    yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.


    You're wandering all over the place. Gender dysphoria is a scientific fact. That doesn't mean youth sports have to be twisted beyond recognition nor that public accomodations should host organizations promoting confusion of children about it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 14:01:35 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:27:32 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:52 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 10:48:33 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 12:11 PM, BillB wrote:
    I can only assume you're a faggot. A maggot, and a faggot.
    And if you had a dick, you would be a man.

    https://theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-conversation/
    Leave it to you to find a good example of possible bias in your choice.

    [Apparently, you do not have a dick. Sorry, (), maybe we should leave you alone ... even more than you are.
    It seems you are the biased one. I go with the preponderance of expert opinion every time.

    .

    He goes (trolls) for whatever gets him attention...


    ~ I think he'd get more attention if he could make a coherent point once in a while. He is addicted to doubletalk and gibberish. The sad thing is that I think he believes it makes him sound clever.


    This sounds very peculiar coming from RGP's champion liar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Travel@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Dec 20 14:34:03 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.
    You gave up that easy? I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.

    Actually, he's mocking you for not accepting the established definitions.

    Picke's side is established: it's up to you to defend your rejection of established definitions.; Otherwise, you have nothing, just gobblygoop.


    There are books known as "The Classics." They're established and listed; or "defined."


    These books are mostly written by white Europeans and ancient philosophers and historians.

    If AOC and "The Squad" attempt to redefine The Classics, with a list of all-black writers, can they "prove it." Can they change the established definition?


    You seem to think that you can redefine terms like, "male," as easily as blithering a gobbly-quip; so this should be any easy one for you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Dec 20 16:01:21 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    To restrain the power of the state over the People.


    How can you restrain a power that the State does not specifically hold?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Travel on Tue Dec 20 16:00:08 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:34:07 PM UTC-8, Travel wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.
    You gave up that easy? I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.
    Actually, he's mocking you for not accepting the established definitions.

    Picke's side is established: it's up to you to defend your rejection of established definitions.; Otherwise, you have nothing, just gobblygoop.


    There are books known as "The Classics." They're established and listed; or "defined."


    These books are mostly written by white Europeans and ancient philosophers and historians.

    If AOC and "The Squad" attempt to redefine The Classics, with a list of all-black writers, can they "prove it." Can they change the established definition?


    You seem to think that you can redefine terms like, "male," as easily as blithering a gobbly-quip; so this should be any easy one for you.

    So-called "accepted definitions" don't always withstand the scrutiny of advancing knowledge. That's one of the reasons the English language is always evolving.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 21 12:04:13 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 4:01:25 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    To restrain the power of the state over the People.

    ~ How can you restrain a power that the State does not specifically hold?


    ALL states have power over their subjects. That's why it's vital to define those powers and that's what our Constiution did. A Constitution which remains revolutionary almost 250 years after it's establishment.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 17:20:41 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 4:01:25 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    To restrain the power of the state over the People.
    ~ How can you restrain a power that the State does not specifically hold?


    ALL states have power over their subjects. That's why it's vital to define those powers and that's what our Constiution did. A Constitution which remains revolutionary almost 250 years after it's establishment.


    No, I don't think so. I think you have that a little mixed up. Mixed up and backwards. The Federal Constitution is not supposed to define what the states can and cannot do. Why do we need a Bill of Rights that says the government cannot do certain
    things when it never was given the authority in the first place? Why do we need to prevent Congress from passing laws preventing free speech when it was never given the authority to pass such laws? It wasn't given that power, so you don't have to
    prohibit it. There doesn't need to be a Bill of Rights.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 21 18:37:24 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 5:20:44 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 12:04:17 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 4:01:25 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    To restrain the power of the state over the People.
    ~ How can you restrain a power that the State does not specifically hold?


    ALL states have power over their subjects. That's why it's vital to define those powers and that's what our Constiution did. A Constitution which remains revolutionary almost 250 years after it's establishment.


    ~ No, I don't think so. I think you have that a little mixed up. Mixed up and backwards. The Federal Constitution is not supposed to define what the states can and cannot do. Why do we need a Bill of Rights that says the government cannot do certain
    things when it never was given the authority in the first place? Why do we need to prevent Congress from passing laws preventing free speech when it was never given the authority to pass such laws? It wasn't given that power, so you don't have to
    prohibit it. There doesn't need to be a Bill of Rights.


    Tell that to Russians or Chinese who get murdered for saying something their state's dictator doesn't like.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Dec 21 19:29:25 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:37:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    Tell that to Russians or Chinese who get murdered for saying something their state's dictator doesn't like.


    No, you tell it to them. I'm afraid of those mutherfuckers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Dec 21 22:15:34 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:29:28 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:37:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    Tell that to Russians or Chinese who get murdered for saying something their state's dictator doesn't like.
    No, you tell it to them. I'm afraid of those mutherfuckers.


    Any thoughts on Treasure Lounge by Konami? Or is it hopeless?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 21 23:44:27 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:15:37 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:29:28 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:37:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    Tell that to Russians or Chinese who get murdered for saying something their state's dictator doesn't like.
    No, you tell it to them. I'm afraid of those mutherfuckers.


    ~ Any thoughts on Treasure Lounge by Konami? Or is it hopeless?


    Do you mean Treasure Chest? 4 needed seems to be a tossup, lucky if you break even, especially on the lowest denomination and I've gotten really screwed on the higher denominations, too. But you can get a good pay sometimes starting with 4 needed and I
    did have a good win recently starting with 4 needed. I can't remember how much of a win. Probably around $150 or a little higher and I think it was the $1.50 denomination. It's one of those you have to play on their terms even when the likelihood leans
    toward you and hope you get lucky. 3 needed is a better start screen but you'll rarely find that.

    I had a good win on Three Little Piggies recently, too. The blue pig is the key with at least 19 free games and the yellow bonus pig getting fat, too. But I'll go with blue and red, also, not expecting as much return. Obviously all three going to bonus
    at once is primo if they're nice and fat.

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  • From Travel@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 22 07:00:08 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:00:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:34:07 PM UTC-8, Travel wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop
    yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.
    You gave up that easy? I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.
    Actually, he's mocking you for not accepting the established definitions.

    Picke's side is established: it's up to you to defend your rejection of established definitions.; Otherwise, you have nothing, just gobblygoop.


    There are books known as "The Classics." They're established and listed; or "defined."


    These books are mostly written by white Europeans and ancient philosophers and historians.

    If AOC and "The Squad" attempt to redefine The Classics, with a list of all-black writers, can they "prove it." Can they change the established definition?


    You seem to think that you can redefine terms like, "male," as easily as blithering a gobbly-quip; so this should be any easy one for you.
    So-called "accepted definitions" don't always withstand the scrutiny of advancing knowledge. That's one of the reasons the English language is always evolving.

    You mean like Pluto no longer being defined as a "planet."

    The scientists behind that declaration have to prove it.

    What scrutiny of advancing knowledge would change "the Classics" to no longer being defined as "The Classics?"


    Are you going dodge this, again?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Travel on Thu Dec 22 10:34:51 2022
    On 12/22/2022 9:00 AM, Travel wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:00:12 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:34:07 PM UTC-8, Travel wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:42:22 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)?
    [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.

    What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop >>>>> yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.
    You gave up that easy? I can only assume you don't have the definition that you were attempting to mock others for not having.
    Actually, he's mocking you for not accepting the established definitions. >>>
    Picke's side is established: it's up to you to defend your rejection of established definitions.; Otherwise, you have nothing, just gobblygoop.


    There are books known as "The Classics." They're established and listed; or "defined."


    These books are mostly written by white Europeans and ancient philosophers and historians.

    If AOC and "The Squad" attempt to redefine The Classics, with a list of all-black writers, can they "prove it." Can they change the established definition?


    You seem to think that you can redefine terms like, "male," as easily as blithering a gobbly-quip; so this should be any easy one for you.
    So-called "accepted definitions" don't always withstand the scrutiny of advancing knowledge. That's one of the reasons the English language is always evolving.

    You mean like Pluto no longer being defined as a "planet."

    The scientists behind that declaration have to prove it.

    What scrutiny of advancing knowledge would change "the Classics" to no longer being defined as "The Classics?"


    Are you going dodge this, again?

    He is a believer ... he has the truth and the facts on his side. No one
    needs to intrude.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 10:40:21 2022
    On 12/20/2022 3:58 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)? >>>> [Or "female" or "neuter"?]


    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"


    ~ Dick and Jane


    Dicks are definitely male.

    Some hermaphrodites are indeed hermaphrodites ... but the exceptions do
    not make the rules.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 10:37:42 2022
    On 12/20/2022 4:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:30:38 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 11:13 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 9:10:55 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 12/20/2022 10:40 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 12/20/2022 10:18 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:52:25 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:38:27 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    That is a violation of several personal Constitutional rights which no several state has the right to violate.
    ~ Name one.


    The right to privacy, an unenumerated right enshrined by the 9th amendment. The Supreme Court found that the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.


    Why even have a "Bill of Rights"?
    Is "gender identification" a "right of privacy"?

    Does the word "male" have any meaning at all (scientific or otherwise)? >>>>>> [Or "female" or "neuter"?]

    All the definitions have meaning relating to the context in which they were made. Do you have an all encompassing definition of "male?"
    Dick and Jane

    Typical pickle avoidance gibberish.
    Maybe you really did not "get it". Always possible.



    ~ What is your definition of "male" in some situation that you can develop
    yourself.

    When you finish that ... try "female" in the same situation.


    You're wandering all over the place. Gender dysphoria is a scientific fact. That doesn't mean youth sports have to be twisted beyond recognition nor that public accomodations should host organizations promoting confusion of children about it.

    I agree

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to risky biz on Thu Dec 22 13:45:11 2022
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:44:31 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 10:15:37 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 7:29:28 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 6:37:28 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:



    Tell that to Russians or Chinese who get murdered for saying something their state's dictator doesn't like.
    No, you tell it to them. I'm afraid of those mutherfuckers.
    ~ Any thoughts on Treasure Lounge by Konami? Or is it hopeless?


    Do you mean Treasure Chest? 4 needed seems to be a tossup, lucky if you break even, especially on the lowest denomination and I've gotten really screwed on the higher denominations, too. But you can get a good pay sometimes starting with 4 needed and I
    did have a good win recently starting with 4 needed. I can't remember how much of a win. Probably around $150 or a little higher and I think it was the $1.50 denomination. It's one of those you have to play on their terms even when the likelihood leans
    toward you and hope you get lucky. 3 needed is a better start screen but you'll rarely find that.

    I had a good win on Three Little Piggies recently, too. The blue pig is the key with at least 19 free games and the yellow bonus pig getting fat, too. But I'll go with blue and red, also, not expecting as much return. Obviously all three going to bonus
    at once is primo if they're nice and fat.


    Played piggies a little so far, can't say that I understand it completely. The other is Treasure Lounge by Konami.

    Ever play Farmville?

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