• Retail sales SINK

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 15 12:04:18 2022
    'Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank

    Retailers and restaurants saw sales fall 0.6 percent between October and November, according to the new data, marring what is normally a strong month for the sector and a crucial source of strength for the U.S. economy. 

    November’s decrease followed a strong 1.3 percent gain in retail sales in October, so it’s possible some holiday shopping typically slated for last month happened even earlier. But steep drops in sales across several major categories could be a sign
    that U.S. consumers are finally reaching their breaking points with inflation.

    “US households are feeling increasingly uneasy about having to drain their savings and using their credit cards to make up for the lost spending power and cover their purchases,” wrote Gregory Daco and Lydia Boussour, economists at consulting firm EY-
    Parthenon, in a Thursday analysis.'

    “Households are increasingly relying on their savings to sustain their spending, and many families are resorting to credit to offset the burden of high prices. These trends are unsustainable,” Daco and Boussour wrote.'

    'Sales at furniture stores fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year. That trend may keep up well into next year with high inflation weighing on household budgets and steep decline in home sales sapping some of the need for new
    furniture.'

    “However, household budgetary concerns are also likely playing a role as the continuing gap between inflation and income growth puts a strain on consumer purchasing power.”

    'Auto dealers saw sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October. Experts said the drop was expected after previous data showed a drop in
    automobile purchases.'

    'Electronics and appliance stores are another early pandemic winner who has fared much worse in 2022. The rush to purchase new TVs, computers, video game consoles and other lockdown staples has faded, all while rising prices for food and — until
    recently — gasoline ate away from disposable income.

    “Big-ticket purchases look especially shaky,” said Ted Rossman, senior industry analyst at Bankrate.'

    'Black Friday seemed like easy money for mega online retailers, particularly as a growing number of big box stores opted to stay closed the day after Thanksgiving. Private sector data reported record-breaking sales throughout the weekend, which seemed
    like a sign of consumer resilience amid high inflation.

    But federal data paints a much different picture.

    Nonstore retailers saw sales fall 0.9 percent last month, even as they still saw sales rise 7.7 percent over the past year.'
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3776600-heres-where-consumers-spent-less-money-in-november-as-retail-sales-sank/

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 15 14:05:59 2022
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Dec 15 14:29:34 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.

    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain). A picture is worth 1000 words:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS.

    If you get out a magnifying glass, or preferably a microscope if you have one handy, you can see the apocalyptic "SINKING" in the last millimeter of the graph on the right. I have said time and again that the Fed is trying to create a mild recession, and
    it now appears their evil experiments have spiralled out of control worse than those at Dr. Fauci's bioweapons lab (Wuhan Division).

    https://youtu.be/BXqPNlng6uI?t=53

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 15 15:14:47 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain). A picture is worth 1000 words:



    Shopping malls are empty all over the place. It's a week before Christmas, moron.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Dec 15 15:27:49 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:14:51 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain). A picture is worth 1000 words:

    Shopping malls are empty all over the place. It's a week before Christmas, moron.

    Shopping malls?? They still have those?

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 15 17:06:28 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:27:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Shopping malls?? They still have those?


    Barely.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Thu Dec 15 17:09:53 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:06:32 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:27:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Shopping malls?? They still have those?
    Barely.


    I don't know if you know Orange County in So Cal but there is a mall near Newport/Costa Mesa called South Coast Plaza. It is world famous. Huge, and BUSY. Except this year, it ain't so busy.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Dec 15 17:20:20 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:09:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:06:32 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 3:27:52 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Shopping malls?? They still have those?
    Barely.
    I don't know if you know Orange County in So Cal but there is a mall near Newport/Costa Mesa called South Coast Plaza. It is world famous. Huge, and BUSY. Except this year, it ain't so busy.

    Isn't that the one JB was walking around in with his buddy, pointing out all the "Coming Soon" facades? I don't know how any of the retail mall stores stay in business given the rents they are expected to pay.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 15 17:26:29 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).
    .
    .

    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.
    .
    .
    .









    A picture is worth 1000 words:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS.

    If you get out a magnifying glass, or preferably a microscope if you have one handy, you can see the apocalyptic "SINKING" in the last millimeter of the graph on the right. I have said time and again that the Fed is trying to create a mild recession,
    and it now appears their evil experiments have spiralled out of control worse than those at Dr. Fauci's bioweapons lab (Wuhan Division).

    https://youtu.be/BXqPNlng6uI?t=53

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Dec 15 18:01:33 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).
    .
    .

    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.

    Fox is definitely the worst of the worst, but most of the news outlets are trying to prop up this phony economic Armageddon storyline. I guess it makes them money. Personally, I can't believe how resilient the US economy has been to massive economic
    shocks like Covid and the war in Ukraine. I think it's a minor miracle. Harris really knows what she's doing. You never even see her anymore she's working so hard.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 15 18:20:10 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:20:24 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Isn't that the one JB was walking around in with his buddy,


    I don't know. You tell me.

    We have malls in Fresno too, business is not there. I see it with my own eyes. Actually, I don't see it with my own eyes.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Dec 15 18:22:48 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.
    .

    Oh go kill a cat, you piece of shit. So sick of your Fox narrative. So sick of you.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to BillB on Thu Dec 15 18:24:54 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:01:37 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Harris really knows what she's doing. You never even see her anymore she's working so hard.


    You're working so hard. Troll.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Thu Dec 15 19:51:53 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.



    Look who's talking, cat murderer. You're still pushing the fake vax, when it has been proven that FDA, politicians, Pfizer, etc., lied their asses off about the effectiveness of the phony vax that doesn't do anything they said it did, and they made
    BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars pushing this lie. And this shit's going to come out, too, when President DeSantis pushes criminal indictments again lying pharma companies and assholes like Dr. Fuckface. Your middle name is 'misinformation'.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Dec 16 01:03:18 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.


    ~ It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).


    Are you too frightened to mention:

    'fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year'

    'sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October'?

    On the other hand, who wouldn't consider Blabbermouth-in-Vancouver's economic analysis more reliable than economists at consulting firm EY-Parthenon, an economic analyst at Morning Consult, and a senior industry analyst at Bankrate? Did THEY predict 3.5%
    'inflation'? No, only RGP's in-house expert on everything.

    LOL.


    A picture is worth 1000 words:

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS.

    If you get out a magnifying glass, or preferably a microscope if you have one handy, you can see the apocalyptic "SINKING" in the last millimeter of the graph on the right. I have said time and again that the Fed is trying to create a mild recession,
    and it now appears their evil experiments have spiralled out of control worse than those at Dr. Fauci's bioweapons lab (Wuhan Division).

    https://youtu.be/BXqPNlng6uI?t=53

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Dec 16 01:32:28 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    ~ It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).


    Are you too frightened to mention:

    'fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year'

    'sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October'?

    That's included in the .6%. Anything that dropped higher than that .6% was offset by something else. That's how math works. Again, refer to the visual aid I provided to put it all in perspective for you

    On the other hand, who wouldn't consider Blabbermouth-in-Vancouver's economic analysis more reliable than economists at consulting firm EY-Parthenon, an >economic analyst at Morning Consult, and a senior industry analyst at Bankrate? Did THEY predict 3.
    5% 'inflation'? No, only RGP's in-house expert on everything.

    I'm sure they all forecasted something very similar at that time. It was the Fed's forecast I was parroting that day (I personally thought it would be 5% by the end of fiscal 2021 and it came in at 5.4%). Of course, many unforeseeable exacerbating
    factors occurred after that. No worries, it was all transitory. The US is already back down to 2.4% annualized over the last five months' data. Enjoy yourself. The world is not coming to an end as you and Paul predicted. You could have saved a lot of
    stress just listening to my reassurances. Don't bet against America. In the long run you will go broke.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Dec 16 11:24:10 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:01:37 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).
    .
    .

    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.
    .

    Fox is definitely the worst of the worst, but most of the news outlets are trying to prop up this
    phony economic Armageddon storyline.
    .

    Yea, and they’re having trouble because the FED keeps upping the interest rates to handle all the spending.
    So they divert to, “But Hillary!” or “But Biden’s kid!” etc..
    .

    I guess it makes them money.
    .

    It’s all Man bites dog. I worked for a newspaper. You have to catch the read, either with headlines or
    in the case of TV, a visual. “Stay tuned!” “Film at eleven!” Then toss in a couple of teasers. “Right after
    the break, Trump reveals something!” The FOX wingnuts fall for it every time.
    .

    Personally, I can't believe how resilient the US economy has been to massive economic shocks like
    Covid and the war in Ukraine. I think it's a minor miracle. Harris really knows what she's doing. You
    never even see her anymore she's working so hard.
    .

    She was a prosecutor in California. She’s good.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 11:16:54 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:51:56 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.

    Look who's talking, cat murderer. You're still pushing the fake vax, when it has been proven that FDA, politicians, Pfizer, etc., lied their asses off about the effectiveness of the phony vax that doesn't do anything they said it did, and they made
    BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars pushing this lie. And this shit's going to come out, too, when President DeSantis pushes criminal indictments again lying pharma companies and assholes like Dr. Fuckface. Your middle name is 'misinformation'.

    And yet, a huge percentage (certainly over 80%) of those currently hospitalized or dying from COVID is from the unvaccinated population.

    For a guy who makes his living on the percentages, that is an odd call.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 11:25:31 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:20:24 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    Isn't that the one JB was walking around in with his buddy,
    I don't know. You tell me.

    We have malls in Fresno too, business is not there. I see it with my own eyes. Actually, I don't see it with my own eyes.
    .

    Fresno was a slum when I shopped there and it's only got worse.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 11:30:05 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 6:22:51 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.
    .
    Oh go kill a cat, you piece of shit.
    .

    Why? You gonna have a cat sandwich? Or your next pair of shoes? Or Belt?
    No, you need cows slaughtered for all that. I keep asking you about that.
    You keep dodging….
    .
    .
    So sick of your Fox narrative.
    .

    It’s not my narrative, it’s theirs. You wingnuts keep Cutting & Pasting it, and we keep
    showing you how you’ve been taken.
    .

    So sick of you.
    .
    Showing you how you’ve been lied to?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 11:35:43 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:51:56 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:


    Especially when all they have is misinformation from FOX.

    Look who's talking, cat murderer.
    .

    Look who's talking, cow murderer.
    .

    You're still pushing the fake vax,
    .

    Show where I’ve been doing that. (See what I mean about your misinformation?) .

    when it has been proven that FDA, politicians, Pfizer, etc., lied their asses off about
    the effectiveness of the phony vax that doesn't do anything they said it did, and they
    made BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars pushing this lie.
    .

    Then you should have no trouble showing that. (See, again, what I mean about your
    FOX misinformation?)
    .

    And this shit's going to come out, too, when President DeSantis pushes criminal indictments
    again lying pharma companies and assholes like Dr. Fuckface. Your middle name is 'misinformation'.
    .

    We’ll see after you, “Have trouble showing us.”

    (Heh, “See idiot Run & Hide”).

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Dec 16 12:30:26 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    And yet, a huge percentage (certainly over 80%) of those currently hospitalized or dying from COVID is from the unvaccinated population.


    CNN horse shit.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 13:02:50 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:30:31 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    And yet, a huge percentage (certainly over 80%) of those currently hospitalized or dying from COVID is from the unvaccinated population.

    CNN horse shit.

    No, actual data.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Dec 16 13:24:27 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:02:53 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    No, actual data.


    No, actual bullshit. Pfizer lies, the CDC lies, the FDA lies, the major media lies, Dr.Fuckface lies. If that never sinks, you'll just be stupid the rest of your life.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Dec 16 13:27:44 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:32:31 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    ~ It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).


    Are you too frightened to mention:

    'fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year'

    'sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October'?


    ~ That's included in the .6%. Anything that dropped higher than that .6% was offset by something else. That's how math works.


    Hogwash. In other words, anything that contradicts the factoid you chose doesn't count. LOL. What a fake. Blabbermouth- president of the 'Save the corporate Democrats club'. LOL.


    ~ Again, refer to the visual aid I provided to put it all in perspective for you


    Why don't YOU refer to your visual aid, dumb shit? Those are estimates.


    On the other hand, who wouldn't consider Blabbermouth-in-Vancouver's economic analysis more reliable than economists at consulting firm EY-Parthenon, an >economic analyst at Morning Consult, and a senior industry analyst at Bankrate? Did THEY predict
    3.5% 'inflation'? No, only RGP's in-house expert on everything.


    ~ I'm sure they all forecasted something very similar at that time.


    Sure they did. Because that would make you look less stupid?


    ~ It was the Fed's forecast I was parroting that day


    After all these months of calling it a prediction, you are now calling it parroting? LOL. The new Blabbermouth >> 🦜.


    ~ (I personally thought it would be 5% by the end of fiscal 2021 and it came in at 5.4%).


    You have repeated that lie incessantly and I have exposed it as a lie repeatedly.


    ~ Of course, many unforeseeable exacerbating factors occurred after that.


    There's never any shortage of excuses for your stupidity, is there?


    ~ No worries, it was all transitory. The US is already back down to 2.4% annualized over the last five months' data.


    Oh, so you now have enough liar's guts to go back to the 'transitory' thing you shut up about for many months? You're a real visionary when you look backward. LOL. You don't have enough brains or knowledge to realize it can change direction again.


    ~ Enjoy yourself. The world is not coming to an end as you and Paul predicted. You could have saved a lot of stress just listening to my reassurances. Don't bet against America. In the long run you will go broke.


    Don't let the fact that I never proposed anything coming to an end have any restraint on your lying.

    BTW- you can't be exposed as utterly stupid and uninformed and then credibly call that 'reassurance'.

    Obviously, every attempt to educate you has failed. Personality disorders like yours are not susceptible to reason.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Dec 16 14:46:03 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:27:48 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:32:31 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:29:38 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:06:03 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    You must be mistaken. What? Do you think we're in a recession or something? Ask BillB, the economy is booming. Nothing to worry about.
    ~ It can be difficult for a layperson to appreciate the frightening magnitude of a .6% drop (only a few weeks after a 1.3% gain).


    Are you too frightened to mention:

    'fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year'

    'sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October'?
    ~ That's included in the .6%. Anything that dropped higher than that .6% was offset by something else. That's how math works.


    Hogwash. In other words, anything that contradicts the factoid you chose doesn't count. LOL. What a fake. Blabbermouth- president of the 'Save the corporate >Democrats club'. LOL.

    It's not "hogwash," and I have no idea what it has to do with "corporate Democrats." It's math. It should be obvious to anyone with an IQ over 70 that if retail sales dropped .6% over a certain period, that doesn't mean they dropped exactly .6% across
    the board in every retail category. It's an average. That means some categories went down more than .6% and some went down less .6% and/or went up. You are failing grade three math again. Your article simply highlighted the categories that dropped the
    most, and it makes perfect sense that vehicle sales would be one of them since they are a big ticket item often bought on credit, and consumer interest rates have increased substantially. That is important information if you happen to have a financial
    interest in that sector, but the bottom line is that the drop in retail overall averaged out to .6%.


    ~ Again, refer to the visual aid I provided to put it all in perspective for you


    Why don't YOU refer to your visual aid, dumb shit? Those are estimates.

    No, only the last quarter is an estimate, and the chart wasn't updated with the new data yet. It was for all intents and purposes bang-on. What you were supposed to learn from that graph is that a .6% drop in retail sales doesn't mean jack shit in the
    grand scheme of things, but that was obviously over your head.

    On the other hand, who wouldn't consider Blabbermouth-in-Vancouver's economic analysis more reliable than economists at consulting firm EY-Parthenon, an >economic analyst at Morning Consult, and a senior industry analyst at Bankrate? Did THEY
    predict 3.5% 'inflation'? No, only RGP's in-house expert on everything.

    ~ I'm sure they all forecasted something very similar at that time.

    Sure they did. Because that would make you look less stupid?

    If I look stupid in the eyes of a person who supported Paul's hyperinflation hyperventilations to the hilt, so be it. Pretty funny stuff. I guess the entire financial world is "stupid" too, because that was the consensus and the Fed's forecast at that
    time. Remember you later even tried to change the definition of hyperinflation to say that 7% inflation was hyperinflation. LOLOLOL You made an absolute fool of yourself, but that's how desperate you were.

    ~ It was the Fed's forecast I was parroting that day

    After all these months of calling it a prediction, you are now calling it parroting? LOL. The new Blabbermouth >> 🦜.

    No, I always said on that on that one day I said "probably 3.5%" because I was just giving the nod to the Fed's forecast rather than mine. It really didn't even matter if I went with their forecast or mine, because it was said to Alim in the context that
    he shouldn't be worried about hyperinflation.

    ~ (I personally thought it would be 5% by the end of fiscal 2021 and it came in at 5.4%).

    You have repeated that lie incessantly and I have exposed it as a lie repeatedly.

    You didn't expose anything except in your own mind. You also claimed I didn't contemplate the possibility that inflation could reach 7%, even though I offered to show you the quote (under reasonable conditions). You ran from that offer at least three
    times.

    ~ Of course, many unforeseeable exacerbating factors occurred after that.

    There's never any shortage of excuses for your stupidity, is there?

    What I stated is a fact, not an excuse. A forecast is just that, a prediction made on the information available and/or foreseeable at that moment in time.

    ~ No worries, it was all transitory. The US is already back down to 2.4% annualized over the last five months' data.

    Oh, so you now have enough liar's guts to go back to the 'transitory' thing you shut up about for many months?

    I have said all along that I accepted the Fed's assessment that the inflation would be transitory.


    You're a real visionary when you look backward. LOL. You don't have enough brains or knowledge to realize it can change direction again.

    Of course it can reverse again. That's not saying anything. But after five months of relatively low inflation, it is fair to say that the very high m/m inflation data that drove annual inflation to 9% has ended. That doesn't mean inflation has ended for
    all time. That doesn't even make sense.



    ~ Enjoy yourself. The world is not coming to an end as you and Paul predicted. You could have saved a lot of stress just listening to my reassurances. Don't bet against America. In the long run you will go broke.


    Don't let the fact that I never proposed anything coming to an end have any restraint on your lying.

    Yes, you did. You defended Paul's apocalyptic views to the hilt, and everyone knows it. Now that he was proved wrong and I was prove right you are running away from him as fast as you can. Some wife you are. For better or for worse, remember? Weren't
    those part of your marriage vows?

    BTW- you can't be exposed as utterly stupid and uninformed and then credibly call that 'reassurance'.

    It would be impossible to expose me as stupid. You didn't listen to me, and now you look like a fool. No amount of revisionist history is going to change that, Mr. HYPER-inflation. Get over it.

    Obviously, every attempt to educate you has failed. Personality disorders like yours are not susceptible to reason.

    LOL You educate me. Now that's the funniest comment of the decade. You really are delusional.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Dec 16 16:07:07 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:24:31 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:02:53 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    No, actual data.


    No, actual bullshit. Pfizer lies, the CDC lies, the FDA lies, the major media lies, Dr.Fuckface lies. If that never sinks, you'll just be stupid the rest of your life.
    .

    See how embarrassed you are? You got into a political discussion armed only with the misinformation
    you got from FOX. Now must find out you were lied to and run and hide in embarrassment.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Dec 16 16:05:15 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:02:53 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:30:31 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    And yet, a huge percentage (certainly over 80%) of those currently hospitalized or dying from COVID is from the unvaccinated population.

    CNN horse shit.
    .

    No, actual data.
    .
    You forget, you're dealing with people that have entered a political conversation armed only with
    the misinformation they got from FOX.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Dec 16 20:03:31 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 4:07:11 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:24:31 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:02:53 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    No, actual data.


    No, actual bullshit. Pfizer lies, the CDC lies, the FDA lies, the major media lies, Dr.Fuckface lies. If that never sinks, you'll just be stupid the rest of your life.
    .

    See how embarrassed you are? You got into a political discussion armed only with the misinformation
    you got from FOX. Now must find out you were lied to and run and hide in embarrassment.

    Fox is the news source of record compared to the places he gets all his nonsense from.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 16 20:28:19 2022
    ~ On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    <TL/DNR>

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Dec 16 20:44:15 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:28:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:

    <TL/DNR>

    ^^ just can't stop lying.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Sat Dec 17 11:07:48 2022
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:44:19 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:28:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    <TL/DNR>

    ^^ just can't stop lying.


    RGP has sunk under the weight of Blabbermouth 'last posts'.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 09:26:17 2022
    On 12/17/2022 1:07 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:44:19 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:28:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:46:06 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:


    <TL/DNR>

    ^^ just can't stop lying.


    RGP has sunk under the weight of Blabbermouth 'last posts'.

    Likely that only two regulars would disagree.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 10:31:24 2022
    On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 12:04:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank

    Retailers and restaurants saw sales fall 0.6 percent between October and November, according to the new data, marring what is normally a strong month for the sector and a crucial source of strength for the U.S. economy.

    November’s decrease followed a strong 1.3 percent gain in retail sales in October, so it’s possible some holiday shopping typically slated for last month happened even earlier. But steep drops in sales across several major categories could be a
    sign that U.S. consumers are finally reaching their breaking points with inflation.

    “US households are feeling increasingly uneasy about having to drain their savings and using their credit cards to make up for the lost spending power and cover their purchases,” wrote Gregory Daco and Lydia Boussour, economists at consulting firm
    EY-Parthenon, in a Thursday analysis.'

    “Households are increasingly relying on their savings to sustain their spending, and many families are resorting to credit to offset the burden of high prices. These trends are unsustainable,” Daco and Boussour wrote.'

    'Sales at furniture stores fell 2.6 percent in November and are down 3.2 percent on the year. That trend may keep up well into next year with high inflation weighing on household budgets and steep decline in home sales sapping some of the need for new
    furniture.'

    “However, household budgetary concerns are also likely playing a role as the continuing gap between inflation and income growth puts a strain on consumer purchasing power.”

    'Auto dealers saw sales drop 2.6 percent in November and are up just 0.5 percent on the year. Including auto parts stores, the sector lost 2.3 percent in sales from October. Experts said the drop was expected after previous data showed a drop in
    automobile purchases.'

    'Electronics and appliance stores are another early pandemic winner who has fared much worse in 2022. The rush to purchase new TVs, computers, video game consoles and other lockdown staples has faded, all while rising prices for food and — until
    recently — gasoline ate away from disposable income.

    “Big-ticket purchases look especially shaky,” said Ted Rossman, senior industry analyst at Bankrate.'

    'Black Friday seemed like easy money for mega online retailers, particularly as a growing number of big box stores opted to stay closed the day after Thanksgiving. Private sector data reported record-breaking sales throughout the weekend, which seemed
    like a sign of consumer resilience amid high inflation.

    But federal data paints a much different picture.

    Nonstore retailers saw sales fall 0.9 percent last month, even as they still saw sales rise 7.7 percent over the past year.'
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3776600-heres-where-consumers-spent-less-money-in-november-as-retail-sales-sank/


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and is exactly
    why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 12:28:12 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and is
    exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.

    To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Dec 18 15:32:34 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and is
    exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.

    ~ To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS



    It is lipstick on a pig when your vaunted economic data lacks relevance because it is a picture of the past. As I mentioned previously- you don't have a basic understanding of your enthusiastically proffered evidence.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 15:34:33 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and is
    exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.
    ~ To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS



    It is lipstick on a pig when your vaunted economic data lacks relevance because it is a picture of the past. As I mentioned previously- you don't have a basic understanding of your enthusiastically proffered evidence.

    "Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank" Your post was about the past you fucking moron.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Dec 18 15:40:20 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:34:36 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and is
    exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.
    ~ To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS




    It is lipstick on a pig when your vaunted economic data lacks relevance because it is a picture of the past. As I mentioned previously- you don't have a basic understanding of your enthusiastically proffered evidence.


    ~ "Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank" Your post was about the past you fucking moron.


    Yes. Two weeks ago numbskull.

    Unbelievable stupidity. And unquestionably the beginning of yet another of Blabbermouth's weeks-long troll stupidity extravaganzas.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Dec 18 16:07:06 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:40:24 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:34:36 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news and
    is exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.
    ~ To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS




    It is lipstick on a pig when your vaunted economic data lacks relevance because it is a picture of the past. As I mentioned previously- you don't have a basic understanding of your enthusiastically proffered evidence.
    ~ "Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank" Your post was about the past you fucking moron.


    Yes. Two weeks ago numbskull.

    Unbelievable stupidity. And unquestionably the beginning of yet another of Blabbermouth's weeks-long troll stupidity extravaganzas.

    You've given up even trying to make sense. lol

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Dec 18 23:56:56 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:07:10 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:40:24 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:34:36 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:31:28 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:


    Just for the uninformed- the day after Thanksgiving is the day of the year when retail typically gets into the black on the years operations. That's why it's called Black Friday. And it's why the mediocre showing this year is very bad news
    and is exactly why Blabbermouth is trying to put lipstick on the pig (the corporate/political class wing of the Democratic Party.
    ~ To a riskytard, "Lipstick on a pig" = economic data LOLOL

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RSXFS




    It is lipstick on a pig when your vaunted economic data lacks relevance because it is a picture of the past. As I mentioned previously- you don't have a basic understanding of your enthusiastically proffered evidence.

    ~ "Here’s where consumers spent less money in November as retail sales sank" Your post was about the past you fucking moron.



    Yes. Two weeks ago numbskull.

    Unbelievable stupidity. And unquestionably the beginning of yet another of Blabbermouth's weeks-long troll stupidity extravaganzas.


    ~ You've given up even trying to make sense. lol


    What a dope. Seriously- do you think any readers of what you're blabbing think you know WTF you're talking about?

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