• Concentrate, concentrate!

    From Graham@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 15 11:03:44 2020
    With all the restrictions and lousy weather, I decided to do some baking on Friday. I made 5 x 400g loaves of sourdough bread and 3 batches of sabl�s (vanilla, chocolate, and lemon). As the latter required refrigeration overnight, I decided to make some tangzhong bread buns on Saturday while batches of the cookies were baking.
    I�ve made these bread buns several times and my son�s family loves them. However, this time, the dough behaved very differently and was much wetter
    than usual, coating the mixer-bowl walls. I added a bit more flour and kept
    the mixer running a bit longer than usual and eventually managed to make
    some decent looking buns.
    As I was cleaning up and putting things away, I realised I had used the
    CAKE FLOUR instead of the bread flour! No wonder the dough behaved
    differently.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to Graham on Mon Nov 16 20:32:00 2020
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:03:44 -0700, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    With all the restrictions and lousy weather, I decided to do some baking on >Friday. I made 5 x 400g loaves of sourdough bread and 3 batches of sabl�s >(vanilla, chocolate, and lemon). As the latter required refrigeration >overnight, I decided to make some tangzhong bread buns on Saturday while >batches of the cookies were baking.
    I�ve made these bread buns several times and my son�s family loves them. >However, this time, the dough behaved very differently and was much wetter >than usual, coating the mixer-bowl walls. I added a bit more flour and kept >the mixer running a bit longer than usual and eventually managed to make
    some decent looking buns.
    As I was cleaning up and putting things away, I realised I had used the
    CAKE FLOUR instead of the bread flour! No wonder the dough behaved >differently.

    You're lucky. We can't get bread flour here in Brazil (unless
    you order a 50Kg sack directly from a Mill). So we have to use "all
    purpose".
    I'm currently trying them all, some have hardly any gluten at
    all, others make a semi decent Italian bread.
    Best I've got so far is 68% hydration. Some can't take more
    than 60%. Any more than that and you're trying to fold/shape soup.
    LOL
    []'s
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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Shadow on Mon Nov 16 18:50:45 2020
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:32:00 -0300, Shadow wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:03:44 -0700, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    With all the restrictions and lousy weather, I decided to do some baking on >>Friday. I made 5 x 400g loaves of sourdough bread and 3 batches of sabl�s >>(vanilla, chocolate, and lemon). As the latter required refrigeration >>overnight, I decided to make some tangzhong bread buns on Saturday while >>batches of the cookies were baking.
    I�ve made these bread buns several times and my son�s family loves them. >>However, this time, the dough behaved very differently and was much wetter >>than usual, coating the mixer-bowl walls. I added a bit more flour and kept >>the mixer running a bit longer than usual and eventually managed to make >>some decent looking buns.
    As I was cleaning up and putting things away, I realised I had used the >>CAKE FLOUR instead of the bread flour! No wonder the dough behaved >>differently.

    You're lucky. We can't get bread flour here in Brazil (unless
    you order a 50Kg sack directly from a Mill). So we have to use "all
    purpose".
    I'm currently trying them all, some have hardly any gluten at
    all, others make a semi decent Italian bread.
    Best I've got so far is 68% hydration. Some can't take more
    than 60%. Any more than that and you're trying to fold/shape soup.
    LOL
    []'s

    Have you looked for gluten flour? that might solve your problems.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to Graham on Thu Nov 19 14:54:49 2020
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:50:45 -0700, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:32:00 -0300, Shadow wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:03:44 -0700, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    With all the restrictions and lousy weather, I decided to do some baking on >>>Friday. I made 5 x 400g loaves of sourdough bread and 3 batches of sabl�s >>>(vanilla, chocolate, and lemon). As the latter required refrigeration >>>overnight, I decided to make some tangzhong bread buns on Saturday while >>>batches of the cookies were baking.
    I�ve made these bread buns several times and my son�s family loves them. >>>However, this time, the dough behaved very differently and was much wetter >>>than usual, coating the mixer-bowl walls. I added a bit more flour and kept >>>the mixer running a bit longer than usual and eventually managed to make >>>some decent looking buns.
    As I was cleaning up and putting things away, I realised I had used the >>>CAKE FLOUR instead of the bread flour! No wonder the dough behaved >>>differently.

    You're lucky. We can't get bread flour here in Brazil (unless
    you order a 50Kg sack directly from a Mill). So we have to use "all
    purpose".
    I'm currently trying them all, some have hardly any gluten at
    all, others make a semi decent Italian bread.
    Best I've got so far is 68% hydration. Some can't take more
    than 60%. Any more than that and you're trying to fold/shape soup.
    LOL
    []'s

    Have you looked for gluten flour? that might solve your problems.

    I might, if it existed here. Import taxes are prohibitive.
    As an example
    Supermarket flour: Under US$ 3.00 a 5 Kg bag(sometimes less
    than US$ 2.00 when it's on offer)
    Italian bread flour: US$ 25.00 a 5 Kg bag. Plus freight.
    So I pretend Italian bread flour doesn't even exist.
    []'s
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  • From Dick Adams@21:1/5 to Shadow on Thu Nov 19 17:49:44 2020
    On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 12:55:53 PM UTC-5, Shadow wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:50:45 -0700, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    Have you looked for gluten flour? that might solve your problems.
    I might, if it existed here. Import taxes are prohibitive.
    As an example
    Supermarket flour: Under US$ 3.00 a 5 Kg bag(sometimes less
    than US$ 2.00 when it's on offer)
    Italian bread flour: US$ 25.00 a 5 Kg bag. Plus freight.
    So I pretend Italian bread flour doesn't even exist.

    Last time I bought bread flour (GM All Trumps) at Restaurant Depot near
    Boston, 50 lb cost less than $20. You need a business license or how to
    do a con. In the supermarket sometimes you can get King Arthur bread
    flour for like $1/lb. (1 Kg = 2.2 lb) Go figure.

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