• Re: Anything Cooking Today?

    From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Jul 5 19:52:18 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 7/5/2025 7:41 PM:
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    That's wonderful your Majesty.

    I'm just eating some leftover meatloaf, macaroni and spinach.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 5 20:41:42 2025
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Jul 6 03:13:35 2025
    On 2025-07-06, Jill McQuown <[email protected]> wrote:
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)


    You inspired me. I hadn't done a thing all day. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/zygQC8yf>

    leo

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sat Jul 5 23:38:17 2025
    On 7/5/2025 11:13 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-07-06, Jill McQuown <[email protected]> wrote:
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)


    You inspired me. I hadn't done a thing all day. ;)

    <https://postimg.cc/zygQC8yf>

    leo


    I'm proud of you! Repeat tomorrow.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Jul 6 14:49:56 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:22:54 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill


    Naw, just some leftovers. But I did make an English
    cucumber, Campari tomatoes, and shallots sliced
    thinly salad. Instead of oil, vinegar, and the
    addition of a smidge of sugar, I opted for creamy
    Italian dressing. Quite good and it got a 'Yum!'
    from a neighbor, too.

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Jul 6 15:41:57 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:22:54 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet >>>> of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    Naw, just some leftovers. But I did make an English
    cucumber, Campari tomatoes, and shallots sliced
    thinly salad. Instead of oil, vinegar, and the
    addition of a smidge of sugar, I opted for creamy
    Italian dressing. Quite good and it got a 'Yum!'
    from a neighbor, too.

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.


    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    --
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jul 6 09:36:50 2025
    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected] (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:22:54 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet >>>>> of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    Naw, just some leftovers. But I did make an English
    cucumber, Campari tomatoes, and shallots sliced
    thinly salad. Instead of oil, vinegar, and the
    addition of a smidge of sugar, I opted for creamy
    Italian dressing. Quite good and it got a 'Yum!'
    from a neighbor, too.

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.


    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 6 19:49:35 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:36:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    AI says Lebanese and Persian cucumbers are very similar but not
    exactly the same.

    It also added, without me asking:
    "In fact, Dutch-style greenhouse cucumbers are exported to many
    countries and are often the model for what "English cucumbers" look
    and taste like."

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Jul 6 06:18:53 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    we made cookies: black walnut with almond frosting,
    shortbread, shortbread chocolate chip and molasses with
    seedless red raspberry. nobody but me and my sister
    like the black walnut cookies so i set some aside for
    her to keep in the freezer (double bagged) when she
    visits - the rest i'll gradually eat over the next few
    months. i don't make them very often because they're
    more work than the chocolate chip shortbreads or the
    chocolate chip cookies but it's a nice change when i
    can get them made.

    that was enough for yesterday, today we're making
    pizza for lunch and small lemon pound cakes with
    lemon icing and maybe some other things like mashed
    potatoes later. not sure what all is happening
    there (it's mostly for other people).

    now i have to admit that most of my effort was
    doing dishes and cleaning up and not much of the
    cookie making because Mom has it all down to a routine
    and if i'm in the kitchen she might forget her steps
    so it's better if i'm not out there too much. i did
    mix the ingredients for the black walnut cookies and
    mostly made the frosting too (i add extra almond
    extract as i really like it but i don't want too much
    frosting).

    things i would change for next time is that the
    frosting was a bit too dry and too hard to put on the
    cookies and i'll make half the amount. i don't need
    that many as a double batch (which is what i made) -
    a few dozen is plenty.


    songbird

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jul 6 11:19:45 2025
    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:36:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    AI says Lebanese and Persian cucumbers are very similar but not
    exactly the same.

    It also added, without me asking:
    "In fact, Dutch-style greenhouse cucumbers are exported to many
    countries and are often the model for what "English cucumbers" look
    and taste like."

    The cucumbers that Americans consider "ordinary cucumbers" have
    a thick, waxy skin and many seeds.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/english-versus-regular-cucumbers-2355806

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 6 21:27:27 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 11:19:45 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:36:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    AI says Lebanese and Persian cucumbers are very similar but not
    exactly the same.

    It also added, without me asking:
    "In fact, Dutch-style greenhouse cucumbers are exported to many
    countries and are often the model for what "English cucumbers" look
    and taste like."

    The cucumbers that Americans consider "ordinary cucumbers" have
    a thick, waxy skin and many seeds.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/english-versus-regular-cucumbers-2355806

    That site shows "Pickling", "Slicing" and "English" cucumbers. The
    latter was always the Dutch standard cucumber, probably even before greenhouses. Is that what you call "ordinary cucumbers"? They may have
    many seeds but you'll hardly notice them because they're totally
    edible.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jul 6 12:36:52 2025
    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 11:19:45 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:36:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>><[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    AI says Lebanese and Persian cucumbers are very similar but not
    exactly the same.

    It also added, without me asking:
    "In fact, Dutch-style greenhouse cucumbers are exported to many
    countries and are often the model for what "English cucumbers" look
    and taste like."

    The cucumbers that Americans consider "ordinary cucumbers" have
    a thick, waxy skin and many seeds.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/english-versus-regular-cucumbers-2355806

    That site shows "Pickling", "Slicing" and "English" cucumbers. The
    latter was always the Dutch standard cucumber, probably even before greenhouses. Is that what you call "ordinary cucumbers"? They may have
    many seeds but you'll hardly notice them because they're totally
    edible.

    No, the Slicing cucumbers are "ordinary". The seeds are edible,
    but bitter and obtrusive. The peel is tough.

    IIRC, my grandmother thought cucumber peels were poisonous.


    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jul 6 08:50:04 2025
    On 7/6/2025 7:27 AM, Bruce wrote:

    That site shows "Pickling", "Slicing" and "English" cucumbers. The
    latter was always the Dutch standard cucumber, probably even before greenhouses. Is that what you call "ordinary cucumbers"? They may have
    many seeds but you'll hardly notice them because they're totally
    edible.



    Two nuns were shopping and at the produce section there was a sign.

    Cucumbers 3 for $1

    They stood and looked for a moment and one said, "well we could eat one"

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Jul 6 08:46:19 2025
    On 7/6/2025 1:41 AM, Bruce wrote:

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    Wow, glad I'm not Lebanese.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Jul 6 16:02:15 2025
    On 2025-07-06, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    I may be mistaken but I think some cucumbers
    are bred specifically to be turned into pickles.

    'Kirby'

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 7 05:03:56 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 13:02:08 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    Here's some mangoes from my son's family's yard. It was picked from a >monstrous tree that's way too big for their yard. It's going to have to
    be removed soon. The fruit is pretty awesome though. The mango skin
    contains an allergen similar to poison ivy so my wife can't touch the
    fruit. Luckily, the sap doesn't affect me.

    They've included a green mango in the box - that's very considerate of
    them. We can eat them with Shoyu and vinegar - if they're green and sour >enough.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/rGdh6qcwSWbGQPHeA

    https://www.hawaiian-culture-stories.com/green-mango.html

    Nice. One of my favourite fruits.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 7 05:01:12 2025
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 12:36:52 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 11:19:45 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >><[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:36:50 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton >>>><[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-07-06, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 05:34:48 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment. I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular >>>>>>>cukes, which are delicious as well. I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    I only used to know cucumbers. In Australia, I also got to know
    Lebanese cucumbers, which are shorter.

    I think we call those "Persian cucumbers".

    AI says Lebanese and Persian cucumbers are very similar but not
    exactly the same.

    It also added, without me asking:
    "In fact, Dutch-style greenhouse cucumbers are exported to many
    countries and are often the model for what "English cucumbers" look
    and taste like."

    The cucumbers that Americans consider "ordinary cucumbers" have
    a thick, waxy skin and many seeds.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/english-versus-regular-cucumbers-2355806

    That site shows "Pickling", "Slicing" and "English" cucumbers. The
    latter was always the Dutch standard cucumber, probably even before
    greenhouses. Is that what you call "ordinary cucumbers"? They may have
    many seeds but you'll hardly notice them because they're totally
    edible.

    No, the Slicing cucumbers are "ordinary". The seeds are edible,
    but bitter and obtrusive. The peel is tough.

    IIRC, my grandmother thought cucumber peels were poisonous.

    Oh, it actually says "Persian" on that website. I don't think I've
    ever peeled a ("English") cucumber.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Wed Jul 9 16:59:52 2025
    On 7/6/2025 1:34 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 4:49:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.

    Maybe it's the same issue with the "English Walnut" ;)

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment.  I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well.  I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    The only cucumber that I'll eat is a pickled cucumber (I might make an exception for tzatziki sauce). I bought some "home made" pickle chips
    at a farmer's market earlier this year that were brined in horse radish.
    Expensive little buggers at $8 for a small deli cup, but they were
    delicious.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Jul 9 17:03:37 2025
    On 7/6/2025 6:18 AM, songbird wrote:
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    we made cookies: black walnut with almond frosting,
    shortbread, shortbread chocolate chip and molasses with
    seedless red raspberry. nobody but me and my sister
    like the black walnut cookies so i set some aside for
    her to keep in the freezer (double bagged) when she
    visits - the rest i'll gradually eat over the next few
    months. i don't make them very often because they're
    more work than the chocolate chip shortbreads or the
    chocolate chip cookies but it's a nice change when i
    can get them made.

    I'm with you and your sister, sign me up for the black walnut ones! Do
    you harvest them from your property? I remember helping my grandfather
    with that, and having rather stained hands afterward.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Wed Jul 9 17:43:52 2025
    On 2025-07-09 4:59 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:

    I should look up why they are called "English" cucumbers,
    but I'm too lazy at the moment.  I do know they are much
    longer, thinner, and much smaller seeds compared to regular
    cukes, which are delicious as well.  I may be mistaken but
    I think some cucumbers are bred specifically to be turned
    into pickles.

    The only cucumber that I'll eat is a pickled cucumber (I might make an exception for tzatziki sauce).  I bought some "home made" pickle chips
    at a farmer's market earlier this year that were brined in horse radish.
     Expensive little buggers at $8 for a small deli cup, but they were delicious.

    I recently discovered some really tasty pickles. Putters hot and spicy
    pickle chips are a type of bread and butter pickle with some hot spice
    added. They are delicious. I got some last week after my friend told me
    they had them at the local Costco. He wants me to go for a motorcycle
    ride with him tonight to get some more because he has already run out.


    Tzatziki is good stuff and easy to make. You don't even need a set
    recipe. You can use more or less garlic. You can use different types of
    yogurt, maybe stiffen it up a little with some sour cream. If you are
    making only a little and plan to use it up you can add some chopped
    cucumber. If you are planning to keep it for more than a few hours
    should grate the cucumber and squeeze out excess water. Otherwise, the
    water is going to leech out into the sauce and make it soupy.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Thu Jul 10 10:07:39 2025
    Michael Trew wrote:
    On 7/6/2025 6:18 AM, songbird wrote:
    ...
    we made cookies: black walnut with almond frosting,
    shortbread, shortbread chocolate chip and molasses with
    seedless red raspberry. nobody but me and my sister
    like the black walnut cookies so i set some aside for
    her to keep in the freezer (double bagged) when she
    visits - the rest i'll gradually eat over the next few
    months. i don't make them very often because they're
    more work than the chocolate chip shortbreads or the
    chocolate chip cookies but it's a nice change when i
    can get them made.

    I'm with you and your sister, sign me up for the black walnut ones! Do
    you harvest them from your property? I remember helping my grandfather
    with that, and having rather stained hands afterward.

    i shelled black walnuts a few times, but decided that
    the store sells them at a much safer price (safer for my
    hands). i used a 12oz bag for 48 cookies. delicious. :)

    the recipe calls for powdered sugar but i'm going to
    adjust that down next time because they don't need to be
    sweet with the frosting added on top - i like the contrast
    of sweet and not.


    songbird

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Thu Jul 10 14:24:19 2025
    On 2025-07-10, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Michael Trew wrote:
    On 7/6/2025 6:18 AM, songbird wrote:
    ...
    we made cookies: black walnut with almond frosting,
    shortbread, shortbread chocolate chip and molasses with
    seedless red raspberry. nobody but me and my sister
    like the black walnut cookies so i set some aside for
    her to keep in the freezer (double bagged) when she
    visits - the rest i'll gradually eat over the next few
    months. i don't make them very often because they're
    more work than the chocolate chip shortbreads or the
    chocolate chip cookies but it's a nice change when i
    can get them made.

    I'm with you and your sister, sign me up for the black walnut ones! Do
    you harvest them from your property? I remember helping my grandfather
    with that, and having rather stained hands afterward.

    i shelled black walnuts a few times, but decided that
    the store sells them at a much safer price (safer for my
    hands). i used a 12oz bag for 48 cookies. delicious. :)

    the recipe calls for powdered sugar but i'm going to
    adjust that down next time because they don't need to be
    sweet with the frosting added on top - i like the contrast
    of sweet and not.

    Sugar in baking is generally considered a "wet" ingredient. Leave
    too much out, and your cookies will be dry and chalky. I'd omit
    the frosting.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Thu Jul 10 18:38:08 2025
    On 7/9/2025 5:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-07-09 4:59 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:

    The only cucumber that I'll eat is a pickled cucumber (I might make an
    exception for tzatziki sauce).  I bought some "home made" pickle chips
    at a farmer's market earlier this year that were brined in horse
    radish.   Expensive little buggers at $8 for a small deli cup, but
    they were delicious.

    I recently discovered some really tasty pickles. Putters hot and spicy
    pickle chips are a type of bread and butter pickle with some hot spice
    added. They are delicious.  I got some last week after my friend told me they had them at the local Costco.  He wants me to go for a motorcycle
    ride with him tonight to get some more because he has already run out.

    I'd try a spicy one if offered to me, but I've always been put off by
    bread and butter pickles, I find them to be too sweet for me.

    Tzatziki is good stuff and easy to make. You don't even need a set
    recipe. You can use more or less garlic. You can use different types of yogurt, maybe stiffen it up a little with some sour cream.  If you are making only a little and plan to use it up you can add some chopped
    cucumber. If you are planning to keep it for more than a few hours
    should grate the cucumber and squeeze out excess water. Otherwise, the
    water is going to leech out into the sauce and make it soupy.

    Thanks, I've never made it, but I've had it at a good Gyro place in
    Pittsburgh a few times. I'll have to give it a go if I work up the
    never to try to cook lamb. I hear it's very easy to overcook to dry,
    and it isn't cheap, either.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Thu Jul 10 18:47:35 2025
    On 2025-07-10 6:38 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
    On 7/9/2025 5:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

    I recently discovered some really tasty pickles. Putters hot and spicy
    pickle chips are a type of bread and butter pickle with some hot spice
    added. They are delicious.  I got some last week after my friend told
    me they had them at the local Costco.  He wants me to go for a
    motorcycle ride with him tonight to get some more because he has
    already run out.

    I'd try a spicy one if offered to me, but I've always been put off by
    bread and butter pickles, I find them to be too sweet for me.


    I don't think I have ever bought bread and butter pickles before, though
    I had eaten them. These guys are amazing. The spicy more than makes up
    for the sweet.



    Tzatziki is good stuff and easy to make. You don't even need a set
    recipe. You can use more or less garlic. You can use different types
    of yogurt, maybe stiffen it up a little with some sour cream.  If you
    are making only a little and plan to use it up you can add some
    chopped cucumber. If you are planning to keep it for more than a few
    hours should grate the cucumber and squeeze out excess water.
    Otherwise, the water is going to leech out into the sauce and make it
    soupy.

    Thanks, I've never made it, but I've had it at a good Gyro place in Pittsburgh a few times.  I'll have to give it a go if I work up the
    never to try to cook lamb.  I hear it's very easy to overcook to dry,
    and it isn't cheap, either.

    Lamb tends to be a little pricey, but not as bad as beef these days. It
    is definitely better when pink. We get good deals on boneless leg of
    lamb. You can always cube it, marinate it and cook it on skewers.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jul 11 09:45:31 2025
    On 2025-07-10, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lamb tends to be a little pricey, but not as bad as beef these days. It
    is definitely better when pink. We get good deals on boneless leg of
    lamb. You can always cube it, marinate it and cook it on skewers.

    I don't know where you shop, but lamb is more expensive than beef
    at the grocery stores here. Probably different at the halal markets,
    but I wouldn't expect Michael to have much access to those.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Jul 11 09:43:44 2025
    On 2025-07-10, Michael Trew <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/9/2025 5:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-07-09 4:59 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:

    The only cucumber that I'll eat is a pickled cucumber (I might make an
    exception for tzatziki sauce).  I bought some "home made" pickle chips
    at a farmer's market earlier this year that were brined in horse
    radish.   Expensive little buggers at $8 for a small deli cup, but
    they were delicious.

    I recently discovered some really tasty pickles. Putters hot and spicy
    pickle chips are a type of bread and butter pickle with some hot spice
    added. They are delicious.  I got some last week after my friend told me
    they had them at the local Costco.  He wants me to go for a motorcycle
    ride with him tonight to get some more because he has already run out.

    I'd try a spicy one if offered to me, but I've always been put off by
    bread and butter pickles, I find them to be too sweet for me.

    Tzatziki is good stuff and easy to make. You don't even need a set
    recipe. You can use more or less garlic. You can use different types of
    yogurt, maybe stiffen it up a little with some sour cream.  If you are
    making only a little and plan to use it up you can add some chopped
    cucumber. If you are planning to keep it for more than a few hours
    should grate the cucumber and squeeze out excess water. Otherwise, the
    water is going to leech out into the sauce and make it soupy.

    Thanks, I've never made it, but I've had it at a good Gyro place in Pittsburgh a few times. I'll have to give it a go if I work up the
    never to try to cook lamb. I hear it's very easy to overcook to dry,
    and it isn't cheap, either.

    Start with ground lamb and make some sort of kebab. You can
    even cut the lamb with some other meat.

    https://www.themediterraneandish.com/kofta-kebab-recipe/#tasty-recipes-10592-jump-target

    The beauty of this sort of thing is: you can omit any ingredients
    you don't have, like sumac.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri Jul 11 09:02:58 2025
    On 2025-07-11 5:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-07-10, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lamb tends to be a little pricey, but not as bad as beef these days. It
    is definitely better when pink. We get good deals on boneless leg of
    lamb. You can always cube it, marinate it and cook it on skewers.

    I don't know where you shop, but lamb is more expensive than beef
    at the grocery stores here. Probably different at the halal markets,
    but I wouldn't expect Michael to have much access to those.


    It varies from store to store. Lately I have been getting lamb at Costco
    and it is a lot cheaper than even the less expensive grocery stores.

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jul 11 09:08:20 2025
    On 2025-07-11 7:02 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-07-11 5:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-07-10, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lamb tends to be a little pricey, but not as bad as beef these days.  It >>> is definitely better when pink. We get good deals on boneless leg of
    lamb. You can always cube it, marinate it and cook it on skewers.

    I don't know where you shop, but lamb is more expensive than beef
    at the grocery stores here.  Probably different at the halal markets,
    but I wouldn't expect Michael to have much access to those.


    It varies from store to store. Lately I have been getting lamb at Costco
    and it is a lot cheaper than even the less expensive grocery stores.

    It's Australian lamb in the local Costco and is excellent. I've frozen
    some chops.
    BTW their Norwegian salmon is excellent too.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri Jul 11 11:34:38 2025
    On 2025-07-11 11:08 a.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2025-07-11 7:02 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

    It varies from store to store. Lately I have been getting lamb at
    Costco and it is a lot cheaper than even the less expensive grocery
    stores.

    It's Australian lamb in the local Costco and is excellent. I've frozen
    some chops.
    BTW their Norwegian salmon is excellent too.


    A couple weeks ago I picked up a couple racks. I cooked one and put the
    other in the freezer. They have 8 packs of chops that I buy but they
    are large enough that two would be enough and I can manage a third so we
    end up with two left over, and they are excellent heated up in a curry
    sauce.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri Jul 11 22:25:20 2025
    On 2025-07-10, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    I don't think I have ever bought bread and butter pickles before, though
    I had eaten them. These guys are amazing. The spicy more than makes up
    for the sweet.


    My Dad had Mom buy Vogt's scrapple for himself. He knew Mom and I
    wouldn't touch it. My Mom bought bread and butter pickles for herself.
    She knew that Dad and I wouldn't touch them.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Daniel on Sun Jul 13 16:46:16 2025
    On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:34:34 -0700, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Jill McQuown <[email protected]> writes:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another
    skillet of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    I know it's late but, I made a loaf of bread. Trying to wean myself from >using the tried and true bread machine to do the dough making.

    It turns out that it's not much more work using the standing mixer.

    I'll be making another loaf tomorrow morning to take to my mom.

    Are you the Baltic Bozo or another Daniel?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Daniel@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat Jul 12 23:34:34 2025
    Jill McQuown <[email protected]> writes:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another
    skillet of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    I know it's late but, I made a loaf of bread. Trying to wean myself from
    using the tried and true bread machine to do the dough making.

    It turns out that it's not much more work using the standing mixer.

    I'll be making another loaf tomorrow morning to take to my mom.

    D

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  • From Daniel@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jul 14 23:26:42 2025
    Bruce <[email protected]d> writes:

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:34:34 -0700, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Jill McQuown <[email protected]> writes:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another
    skillet of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    I know it's late but, I made a loaf of bread. Trying to wean myself from >>using the tried and true bread machine to do the dough making.

    It turns out that it's not much more work using the standing mixer.

    I'll be making another loaf tomorrow morning to take to my mom.

    Are you the Baltic Bozo or another Daniel?

    Not sure what you mean. I've been accused of being a ding-dong before,
    but not a bozo. That would be slightly more insulting, I think.

    D

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  • From Daniel@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Jul 14 23:28:00 2025
    Bruce <[email protected]d> writes:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:22:54 +0000, [email protected] (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet
    of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill


    Naw, just some leftovers. But I did make an English
    cucumber, Campari tomatoes, and shallots sliced
    thinly salad. Instead of oil, vinegar, and the
    addition of a smidge of sugar, I opted for creamy
    Italian dressing. Quite good and it got a 'Yum!'
    from a neighbor, too.

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.

    Maybe them thar cucumbers don't drink tea in the Netherlands like they
    do elsewhere. heh

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Daniel on Tue Jul 15 18:16:50 2025
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 23:26:42 -0700, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bruce <[email protected]d> writes:

    On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:34:34 -0700, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Jill McQuown <[email protected]> writes:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another
    skillet of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    I know it's late but, I made a loaf of bread. Trying to wean myself from >>>using the tried and true bread machine to do the dough making.

    It turns out that it's not much more work using the standing mixer.

    I'll be making another loaf tomorrow morning to take to my mom.

    Are you the Baltic Bozo or another Daniel?

    Not sure what you mean. I've been accused of being a ding-dong before,
    but not a bozo. That would be slightly more insulting, I think.

    I don't think you're the Baltic Bozo, so no insult intended.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Daniel on Tue Jul 15 18:21:36 2025
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 23:28:00 -0700, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

    Bruce <[email protected]d> writes:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:22:54 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 0:41:42 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    I made a pot of broccoli & cheddar cheese soup. I baked another skillet >>>> of cornbread.

    Happy July 5th! :)

    Jill

    Naw, just some leftovers. But I did make an English
    cucumber, Campari tomatoes, and shallots sliced
    thinly salad. Instead of oil, vinegar, and the
    addition of a smidge of sugar, I opted for creamy
    Italian dressing. Quite good and it got a 'Yum!'
    from a neighbor, too.

    Do you know what English cucumbers are called in the Netherlands?
    Cucumbers (komkommers), nothing English about them.

    Maybe them thar cucumbers don't drink tea in the Netherlands like they
    do elsewhere. heh

    In English speaking countries, universal items are sometimes called
    "English xxx", as if they're specifically English. In other European
    countries these things are just called by their name, without the
    prefix "English".

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/7tt6yDtP/1751431946383-1.jpg>

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