• Re: OT: extension cords

    From flood of sins@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Thu May 22 12:59:54 2025
    On 2025-05-22, BryanGSimmons <[email protected]> wrote:
    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this
    is the way to roll up a cord. When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow
    I used to tell my guys that I wouldn't hold it against them if they had
    to ask me multiple times to demonstrate how to roll up the cords
    properly. I had learned this at 18 from my 17 YO rhythm guitar player,
    in reference to microphone cables. It instantly made sense because I
    knew about the half twist on the Möbius strip, and the difference
    between a square knot and granny knot. That is all.

    when i was a kid, age 13-15, i spent saturdays doing yard work
    and maintenance at the house of the attorney my mom worked for.
    he wasn't the average bear, he knew how to do everything he had
    me do very well. vehicle maintenance, house maintenance, yard
    maintenance etc. he was a handyman in heart with high education
    and income.

    had an electric lawn mower. used an extension cord. he saw me
    wrapping the cord through my hand and around my elbow and gave
    me an ass-ripping. said that's how to destroy an extension
    chord because the fine wires they're made from get twisted into
    knots after doing it repeatedly. then proceeded to show me the
    proper way to do it as shown in the video. been doing it that
    way since.

    what i should have done was run the cord over with the mower to
    shred it. i hated using that electric mower. but it paid very
    well so i didn't. :)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Fri May 23 04:49:26 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:59:54 GMT, flood of sins <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, BryanGSimmons <[email protected]> wrote:
    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this
    is the way to roll up a cord. When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two
    things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow
    I used to tell my guys that I wouldn't hold it against them if they had
    to ask me multiple times to demonstrate how to roll up the cords
    properly. I had learned this at 18 from my 17 YO rhythm guitar player,
    in reference to microphone cables. It instantly made sense because I
    knew about the half twist on the Möbius strip, and the difference
    between a square knot and granny knot. That is all.

    when i was a kid, age 13-15, i spent saturdays doing yard work
    and maintenance at the house of the attorney my mom worked for.
    he wasn't the average bear, he knew how to do everything he had
    me do very well. vehicle maintenance, house maintenance, yard
    maintenance etc. he was a handyman in heart with high education
    and income.

    had an electric lawn mower. used an extension cord. he saw me
    wrapping the cord through my hand and around my elbow and gave
    me an ass-ripping. said that's how to destroy an extension
    chord because the fine wires they're made from get twisted into
    knots after doing it repeatedly. then proceeded to show me the
    proper way to do it as shown in the video. been doing it that
    way since.

    I never knew people could spend so much time and worry on extension
    chords. It's heartwarming.

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu May 22 19:30:35 2025
    On 2025-05-22, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:59:54 GMT, flood of sins <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, BryanGSimmons <[email protected]> wrote:
    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this >>> is the way to roll up a cord. When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two >>> things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow
    I used to tell my guys that I wouldn't hold it against them if they had
    to ask me multiple times to demonstrate how to roll up the cords
    properly. I had learned this at 18 from my 17 YO rhythm guitar player,
    in reference to microphone cables. It instantly made sense because I
    knew about the half twist on the Möbius strip, and the difference
    between a square knot and granny knot. That is all.

    when i was a kid, age 13-15, i spent saturdays doing yard work
    and maintenance at the house of the attorney my mom worked for.
    he wasn't the average bear, he knew how to do everything he had
    me do very well. vehicle maintenance, house maintenance, yard
    maintenance etc. he was a handyman in heart with high education
    and income.

    had an electric lawn mower. used an extension cord. he saw me
    wrapping the cord through my hand and around my elbow and gave
    me an ass-ripping. said that's how to destroy an extension
    chord because the fine wires they're made from get twisted into
    knots after doing it repeatedly. then proceeded to show me the
    proper way to do it as shown in the video. been doing it that
    way since.

    I never knew people could spend so much time and worry on extension
    chords. It's heartwarming.

    ever check the prices of good to high quality 50 and 100 foot long
    extension cords?

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Thu May 22 19:38:15 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 8:40:12 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this
    is the way to roll up a cord. When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow
    I used to tell my guys that I wouldn't hold it against them if they had
    to ask me multiple times to demonstrate how to roll up the cords
    properly. I had learned this at 18 from my 17 YO rhythm guitar player,
    in reference to microphone cables. It instantly made sense because I
    knew about the half twist on the Möbius strip, and the difference
    between a square knot and granny knot. That is all.


    From the URBAN DICTIONARY:

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trip%20around%20the%20world

    DEFINITION: 'Trip around the world'

    Getting oral sex, anal sex and vaginal sex. Usually requested by johns
    of a prostitue.

    "How much for a trip arounds the world?"

    "It was great, I just went on a trip around the world..."

    ;-D

    --
    GM

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Thu May 22 20:33:34 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 8:40:12 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this
    is the way to roll up a cord. When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow


    Well, here's my tip of the day for extension cords.

    Whenever you have an appliance such as a microwave or
    perhaps a large toaster oven give up the ghost, cut
    the power cord off the appliance. I can't speak for
    all brands of microwaves, but the ones I've had always
    had about a 36-to-42-inch 14-gauge cord. And sometimes
    a cord that length just comes in handy when a 25 foot
    cord is too long.

    My neighbor has made me two such cords from dead
    appliances. They've proven very useful when I
    use a slow cooker or the Ninja Foodi on the three
    season porch for prolonged cooking. Perfect length.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Thu May 22 20:35:12 2025
    On 2025-05-22, flood of sins wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:59:54 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:

    he saw me wrapping the cord through my hand
    and around my elbow and gave me an ass-ripping.

    I never knew people could spend so much
    time and worry on extension chords.

    ever check the prices of good to high quality
    50 and 100 foot long extension cords?

    Bruce is just here for arguments. True the expense,
    but also much time is saved untangling the cord.

    My method of rolling one up does involve "wrapping
    the cord around hand & elbow", but you also need to
    be walking on a flat solid surface with entire cord
    stretched out straight behind.

    Walking speed must exceed the effective cord
    take-up speed (in order to allow it to twist),
    and two half-twists are done by the loose
    wrist each loop, once at the elbow and
    once at the other wrist.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 23 07:02:42 2025
    On 22 May 2025 20:35:12 GMT, Mike Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, flood of sins wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:59:54 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:

    he saw me wrapping the cord through my hand
    and around my elbow and gave me an ass-ripping.

    I never knew people could spend so much
    time and worry on extension chords.

    ever check the prices of good to high quality
    50 and 100 foot long extension cords?

    Bruce is just here for arguments.

    I could comment but I don't want to start an argument.

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    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Thu May 22 21:43:52 2025
    On 2025-05-22, Mike Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-05-22, flood of sins wrote:

    On 2025-05-22, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:59:54 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:

    he saw me wrapping the cord through my hand
    and around my elbow and gave me an ass-ripping.

    I never knew people could spend so much
    time and worry on extension chords.

    ever check the prices of good to high quality
    50 and 100 foot long extension cords?

    Bruce is just here for arguments. True the expense,
    but also much time is saved untangling the cord.

    My method of rolling one up does involve "wrapping
    the cord around hand & elbow", but you also need to
    be walking on a flat solid surface with entire cord
    stretched out straight behind.

    Walking speed must exceed the effective cord
    take-up speed (in order to allow it to twist),
    and two half-twists are done by the loose
    wrist each loop, once at the elbow and
    once at the other wrist.

    We wrap ours around a holder my husband made out of two
    spools that used to hold (IIRC) fiberoptic cable.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 23 10:30:56 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 19:11:25 -0500, BryanGSimmons
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/22/2025 3:33 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 8:40:12 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this >>> is the way to roll up a cord.  When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two >>> things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow


    Well, here's my tip of the day for extension cords.

    Whenever you have an appliance such as a microwave or
    perhaps a large toaster oven give up the ghost, cut
    the power cord off the appliance.  I can't speak for
    all brands of microwaves, but the ones I've had always
    had about a 36-to-42-inch 14-gauge cord.  And sometimes
    a cord that length just comes in handy when a 25 foot
    cord is too long.

    My neighbor has made me two such cords from dead
    appliances.  They've proven very useful when I
    use a slow cooker or the Ninja Foodi on the three
    season porch for prolonged cooking.  Perfect length.

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes
    they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.

    I think it's time for rec.inlovewith.extensioncords.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Fri May 23 00:45:43 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 0:11:25 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes
    they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.


    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 11:04:57 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 0:11:25 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes
    they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.


    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord fetishists.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 23 00:15:29 2025
    On 2025-05-22, gm <[email protected]> wrote:

    DEFINITION: 'Trip around the world'


    Back in the day, they were twenty bucks. I only ever had a five. :(

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri May 23 02:29:29 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected] (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 0:11:25 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes >>> they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.


    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 12:33:08 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 02:29:29 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 0:11:25 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes >>>> they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.

    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.

    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    Yes, that sounds quite likely.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 09:00:08 2025
    On 2025-05-22 10:29 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.


    Last year my son got a pair of boots replaced when the soles started to separate. They were a pair of Blundstones that we bought for him when he
    was living in Toronto, which would have been at least 13 years earlier.
    They do have a good warranty. They wanted pictures of the boots showing
    the problem. Then they wanted him to rip out the elastic on the sides to
    make sure they were destroyed and a couple days later his new boots
    arrived.

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 17:01:48 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 2:29:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 0:11:25 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Most toaster ovens don't have great cords, but microwaves do. Sometimes >>>> they are even 12 gauge. Just attach a female end, and you have a
    rockin' short extension cord.


    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    It's not difficult to replace a power cord on most appliances - unless
    B&D has designed the item so that it's difficult to replace the cord or
    open up the unit.

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the
    back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPNHSBDC

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 23 21:41:14 2025
    On 2025-05-23, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?


    My mother. The water line would have to go through her unheated
    crawlspace, risking it freezing in the winter.

    Or, of course, anybody who doesn't use a lot of ice.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 23 21:32:41 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 2:29:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    It's not difficult to replace a power cord on most appliances - unless
    B&D has designed the item so that it's difficult to replace the cord or
    open up the unit.


    The power cord was not the problem with the toaster oven.
    It was the heating element and would heat no higher than
    250°F.

    Thankfully, it was still under warranty and that length
    of about 6 inches of power cord was all they wanted from
    the near dead toaster oven.

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?


    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 21:42:26 2025
    On 2025-05-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <[email protected]> wrote:

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri May 23 21:52:52 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:42:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <[email protected]> wrote:

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.


    Ok, you just earned spot in the Guiness Book of Records. 😄

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat May 24 08:07:07 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:52:52 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:42:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <[email protected]> wrote:

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.


    Ok, you just earned spot in the Guiness Book of Records. 😄

    I never had an ice maker break down either.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat May 24 00:21:47 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 2:29:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord. (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!) I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund. Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    It's not difficult to replace a power cord on most appliances - unless
    B&D has designed the item so that it's difficult to replace the cord or
    open up the unit.


    The power cord was not the problem with the toaster oven.
    It was the heating element and would heat no higher than
    250°F.

    Thankfully, it was still under warranty and that length
    of about 6 inches of power cord was all they wanted from
    the near dead toaster oven.

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the
    back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?


    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to
    have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 24 10:48:11 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 00:21:47 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the >>> back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to
    have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Your ability to speak for an entire population always amazes me.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Fri May 23 20:04:22 2025
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote on 5/23/2025 4:32 PM:
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 2:29:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord.� (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!)� I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund.� Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord
    fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    It's not difficult to replace a power cord on most appliances - unless
    B&D has designed the item so that it's difficult to replace the cord or
    open up the unit.


    The power cord was not the problem with the toaster oven.
    It was the heating element and would heat no higher than
    250°F.

    Thankfully, it was still under warranty and that length
    of about 6 inches of power cord was all they wanted from
    the near dead toaster oven.

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the
    back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?


    Raises hand.� That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman.� Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    They are unreliable and not worth the time, effort and expense. Much
    more trouble than they are worth, and all I've seen were of very shoddy construction. I don't need shit like that to complicate my remaining
    years. Piss on ice makers.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 23 20:07:34 2025
    dsi1 wrote on 5/23/2025 7:21 PM:
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 2:29:29 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 1:04:57 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:45:43 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    When my large B&D toaster oven died while still under
    warranty, I had to cut off the portion that had a code
    printed on the cord.� (Last place I'd think to look for
    a code!)� I had to return that portion to B&D for a
    refund.� Pretty much ruined the length for any further
    use.

    I bet they're trying to stop the dubious practices of extension cord >>>>> fetishists.


    Quite possible or making sure the owner is not making a
    false claim in hopes of getting another toaster oven
    for free.

    It's not difficult to replace a power cord on most appliances - unless
    B&D has designed the item so that it's difficult to replace the cord or
    open up the unit.


    The power cord was not the problem with the toaster oven.
    It was the heating element and would heat no higher than
    250°F.

    Thankfully, it was still under warranty and that length
    of about 6 inches of power cord was all they wanted from
    the near dead toaster oven.

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the >>> back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?


    Raises hand.� That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman.� Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to
    have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Ahh, da hiwaiians! Dey always loves some crazy shit, right Uncle?

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 23 18:08:00 2025
    dsi1 wrote:
    ...
    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    we didn't even bother installing it or turning it on for
    when had the new fridge brought in. neither of us like ice
    in our drinks and the water from the tap is plenty cold
    enough.

    i've also seen enough floors ruined by leaking ice makers
    and had to clean up or repair floors that rotted from small
    leaks that added up over time. no thanks... not worth the
    hassle.


    songbird

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri May 23 20:14:43 2025
    Bruce wrote on 5/23/2025 7:48 PM:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 00:21:47 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves >>>> drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the >>>> back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to
    have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Your ability to speak for an entire population always amazes me.


    Uncle Tojo keeps in tune with da mainland and is an expert hiwaiian, so
    he knows lots of shit yoose don't.

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 24 01:12:29 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 22:07:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:42:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.


    Ok, you just earned spot in the Guiness Book of Records. 😄

    I never had an ice maker break down either.


    Well, there's two of you who will share that honor in
    Guiness. 👍

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 24 12:46:07 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 18:08:00 -0400, songbird <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    dsi1 wrote:
    ...
    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves
    drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the
    back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    we didn't even bother installing it or turning it on for
    when had the new fridge brought in. neither of us like ice
    in our drinks and the water from the tap is plenty cold
    enough.

    i've also seen enough floors ruined by leaking ice makers
    and had to clean up or repair floors that rotted from small
    leaks that added up over time. no thanks... not worth the
    hassle.

    You're clearly not Hawaiian!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Fri May 23 22:30:04 2025
    On 5/23/2025 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-23, ItsJoanNotJoAnn <[email protected]> wrote:

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.

    Same here, Cindy.

    Jill

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat May 24 12:47:10 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 01:12:29 +0000, [email protected]
    (ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 22:07:07 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:42:26 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    I guess I'm just lucky. Our icemaker has never failed. The
    fridge must be more than 10 years old.


    Ok, you just earned spot in the Guiness Book of Records. 😄

    I never had an ice maker break down either.


    Well, there's two of you who will share that honor in
    Guiness. 👍

    Yabbut I never had an ice maker, so maybe I don't count.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 24 12:50:57 2025
    On Fri, 23 May 2025 20:14:43 -0500, Hank Rogers <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    Bruce wrote on 5/23/2025 7:48 PM:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 00:21:47 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to
    have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Your ability to speak for an entire population always amazes me.

    Uncle Tojo keeps in tune with da mainland and is an expert hiwaiian, so
    he knows lots of shit yoose don't.

    I'm just glad that he's prepared to teach us about da Hawaiian hive.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 24 04:35:09 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 0:48:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 00:21:47 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves >>>> drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the >>>> back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to >>have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace
    it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a
    snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get >>cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Your ability to speak for an entire population always amazes me.

    That's not difficult to do. All you have is look at your environment and
    see the things around you. You should try it sometimes. Perhaps I'm a
    magical christian.

    People in the UK don't seem to care about ice. You go to a restaurant
    and they resent you for asking "more ice please." You'd think the Brits
    would know about yanks and ice by now.

    Aussies love beeya and Marmite - you'd probably notice that if you
    opened up your eyes.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 24 15:44:04 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 04:35:09 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 0:48:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 00:21:47 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:32:41 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 17:01:48 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    I have to install an ice maker in our new refrigerator - this involves >>>>> drilling 5 holes in the freezer wall and installing a water valve in the >>>>> back. That's positively medieval. Who the heck buys a refrigerator
    without an ice maker these days?

    Raises hand. That would be me, I have no use for an
    ice maker or shortly down the road making friends
    with the repairman. Ice dispensers are the weakest
    and most frequent breaking point on a refrigerator.

    Interesting. We love ice. I'm dreaming about all the ice we're going to >>>have when I get the ice maker installed. If they break, I just replace >>>it. They only cost about a hundred bucks and installation should be a >>>snap once everything is in place. Da Hawaiians will do anything to get >>>cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    Your ability to speak for an entire population always amazes me.

    That's not difficult to do. All you have is look at your environment and
    see the things around you. You should try it sometimes. Perhaps I'm a
    magical christian.

    People in the UK don't seem to care about ice. You go to a restaurant
    and they resent you for asking "more ice please." You'd think the Brits
    would know about yanks and ice by now.

    Aussies love beeya and Marmite - you'd probably notice that if you
    opened up your eyes.

    Not marmite, vegemite. What's beeya? Beer?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 24 09:53:09 2025
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat May 24 09:51:37 2025
    On 2025-05-24, Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

    They are unreliable and not worth the time, effort and expense. Much
    more trouble than they are worth, and all I've seen were of very shoddy construction. I don't need shit like that to complicate my remaining
    years.

    Piss on ice makers.

    Well, there's your problem right there. You're not supposed to
    piss on them.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to BryanGSimmons on Sat May 24 12:40:32 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 12:20:29 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    On 5/22/2025 2:38 PM, gm wrote:
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 8:40:12 +0000, BryanGSimmons wrote:

    Probably irrelevant to most here, as we're mostly old retirees, but this >>> is the way to roll up a cord.  When I ran cleaning crews, I stressed two >>> things, rolling up cords properly, and never using abrasives on
    porcelain fixtures, the latter being a fireable offense, as I described
    it as, "willful destruction of company property."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXfFtn1Yjow
    I used to tell my guys that I wouldn't hold it against them if they had
    to ask me multiple times to demonstrate how to roll up the cords
    properly.  I had learned this at 18 from my 17 YO rhythm guitar player, >>> in reference to microphone cables.  It instantly made sense because I
    knew about the half twist on the Möbius strip, and the difference
    between a square knot and granny knot.  That is all.


    From the URBAN DICTIONARY:

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trip%20around%20the%20world >>
    DEFINITION:  'Trip around the world'

    Getting oral sex, anal sex and vaginal sex. Usually requested by johns
    of a prostitue.

    "How much for a trip arounds the world?"

    "It was great, I just went on a trip around the world..."

    The fact that you don't love vaginas is a sign that you are a throwaway
    soul, destined for incineration. God doesn't put souls He values into cocksucking males.




    GAWD...!!!

    Lol...

    O:-)

    --
    GM

    --

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 24 15:36:11 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 5:44:04 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Not marmite, vegemite. What's beeya? Beer?

    Not vegemite, Vegemite. Didn't they teach you nothing in school?

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 24 16:06:29 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/toshiba-rice-cooker

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 25 02:47:41 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 15:36:11 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 5:44:04 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Not marmite, vegemite. What's beeya? Beer?

    Not vegemite, Vegemite. Didn't they teach you nothing in school?

    You really hate being wrong, don't you? Japanese pride.

    But do you know what vegemite's full of? Umami, your umami, Asia's
    umami! Isn't it a disgrace?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 24 17:54:19 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 16:47:41 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 15:36:11 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sat, 24 May 2025 5:44:04 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Not marmite, vegemite. What's beeya? Beer?

    Not vegemite, Vegemite. Didn't they teach you nothing in school?

    You really hate being wrong, don't you? Japanese pride.

    But do you know what vegemite's full of? Umami, your umami, Asia's
    umami! Isn't it a disgrace?

    Indeed Vegemite is totally umami, most fermented foods are. It sounds
    like you're going off the deep end. Time for more beeya. Vegemite comes
    from beeya, ya know.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3qpEzHmZAA

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 24 21:36:26 2025
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 24 17:51:37 2025
    On 5/24/2025 5:36 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.

    It's easy enough to cook rice as needed on the stove top. Some people
    have mentioned keeping cooked rice warm in a rice cooker for hours, if
    not days. Sorry, but keeping food "warm" in a rice cooker for hours is
    a breeding ground for food poisoning.

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 24 18:02:05 2025
    On 2025-05-24 5:36 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.


    I bought one a couple years ago but only used it twice.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 25 08:25:55 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 17:51:37 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/24/2025 5:36 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.

    It's easy enough to cook rice as needed on the stove top. Some people
    have mentioned keeping cooked rice warm in a rice cooker for hours, if
    not days. Sorry, but keeping food "warm" in a rice cooker for hours is
    a breeding ground for food poisoning.

    You're too white to eat much rice. You don't need a rice cooker.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 25 08:26:52 2025
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 18:02:05 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-24 5:36 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.


    I bought one a couple years ago but only used it twice.

    You're also too white.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sat May 24 18:41:10 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote on 5/24/2025 4:36 PM:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.


    I bet yoose don't even know what shoyu is!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 24 18:48:47 2025
    Bruce wrote on 5/24/2025 5:25 PM:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 17:51:37 -0400, Jill McQuown
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/24/2025 5:36 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    My husband must be Hawaiian. He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up. I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker. As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.

    It's easy enough to cook rice as needed on the stove top. Some people
    have mentioned keeping cooked rice warm in a rice cooker for hours, if
    not days. Sorry, but keeping food "warm" in a rice cooker for hours is
    a breeding ground for food poisoning.

    You're too white to eat much rice. You don't need a rice cooker.


    But master, she does need something that might warm her up a little bit
    above zero degrees Kelvin.

    At least one or two K.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sat May 24 18:43:16 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote on 5/24/2025 4:51 PM:
    On 5/24/2025 5:36 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 May 2025 9:53:09 +0000, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

    On 2025-05-24, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    Da Hawaiians will do anything to get
    cool, clean, ice. Lots and lots of ice.

    My husband must be Hawaiian.� He uses so much ice, the ice maker
    can't keep up.� I buy ice at the grocery store every week to make
    up the difference.

    The automatic ice maker is right up there with the invention of the
    automatic rice cooker.

    We've never had a use for an automatic rice cooker.� As seldom as we
    cook rice, a pot on the stove suffices.

    It's easy enough to cook rice as needed on the stove top.� Some people
    have mentioned keeping cooked rice warm in a rice cooker for hours, if
    not days.� Sorry, but keeping food "warm" in a rice cooker for hours is
    a breeding ground for food poisoning.

    Jill


    Your Majesty's rice is the finest in the kingdom ... maybe even the
    universe!

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