• [OT] Be very afraid!

    From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 8 21:58:10 2025
    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 18:00:03 2025
    On 2025-05-08 5:58 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)



    I dunno about that. I have a great nephew Leo. Maybe the pope is named
    after him.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to OLeonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 22:17:04 2025
    OLeonard Blaisdell wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)


    Well done... and he is from Chicago...!!!

    ;-D

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    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 9 08:51:30 2025
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.

    --
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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Thu May 8 19:01:38 2025
    On 5/8/2025 5:58 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)



    When I was a kid, visiting my grandparents we'd go to Leo's to buy an
    ice cream cone. If Pope Leo replaces communion with ice cream cones I
    may go to church again.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 9 09:06:09 2025
    On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:01:38 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/8/2025 5:58 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)



    When I was a kid, visiting my grandparents we'd go to Leo's to buy an
    ice cream cone. If Pope Leo replaces communion with ice cream cones I
    may go to church again.

    An ice cream followed by a glass of wine. I'm in.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Graham on Fri May 9 13:38:11 2025
    On Thu, 8 May 2025 21:34:59 -0600, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-08 4:51 p.m., Bruce wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.

    Oh Yeah! Dressing up in Medieval costumes and singing Medieval chants.

    I'm not defending the pope, far from it, but have you been following
    Leo a bit here?

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu May 8 21:34:59 2025
    On 2025-05-08 4:51 p.m., Bruce wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.

    Oh Yeah! Dressing up in Medieval costumes and singing Medieval chants.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 9 15:14:26 2025
    On 9 May 2025 04:24:36 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.


    I don't think that Pius XII was. Ask Ed. "Real Catholics" enjoy the
    services in Latin. At least they did when I was a kid.
    I knew a man once, who rejected Catholic Reform. He and his wife
    attended the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) to avoid having to hear
    services in English. I blame Pope John and the Second Vatican Council.
    Ed, take it from here!

    Latin, English, Dutch, what difference does it make? Trump talking
    Latin is still a crook.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri May 9 04:24:36 2025
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.


    I don't think that Pius XII was. Ask Ed. "Real Catholics" enjoy the
    services in Latin. At least they did when I was a kid.
    I knew a man once, who rejected Catholic Reform. He and his wife
    attended the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) to avoid having to hear
    services in English. I blame Pope John and the Second Vatican Council.
    Ed, take it from here!

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 11:36:26 2025
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    You can wear a funny hat and Make America Godly Again.

    Janet UK

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 9 21:48:28 2025
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    Pope Leonardo I, young:
    https://ibb.co/pBK7tRgp

    Pope Leonardo I, a bit older:
    https://ibb.co/qM0GXrXk

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri May 9 08:29:01 2025
    On 5/9/2025 12:24 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.


    I don't think that Pius XII was. Ask Ed. "Real Catholics" enjoy the
    services in Latin. At least they did when I was a kid.
    I knew a man once, who rejected Catholic Reform. He and his wife
    attended the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) to avoid having to hear
    services in English. I blame Pope John and the Second Vatican Council.
    Ed, take it from here!


    The problem was how it was taught, or more accurate, how it was not
    taught. The mass in latin is more eloquent, but, going to Catholic
    school were were never told what the words meant and what was going on
    up there on the alter. Perhaps other schools were better.

    I may have had a better attitude about if is someone told me what Et cum spiritu tuo meant early on.

    Dominus vobiscum

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri May 9 14:45:50 2025
    Leonard Blaisdell wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)


    The last Pope Leo was VERY anti - socialism (like YOU!), and vehemently
    so... wonder if the new one will follow suit...???

    Pope Leo XIII was prescient in a manner few human beings have ever been;
    he sees Christianity and socialism as necessarily opposed to one another
    .. AND he was condemning socialism LONG before the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution...!!!

    He wrote in 1881: "The century’s most blatant force of satanic
    utopianism is communism."...

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism (from NATIONAL
    REVIEW); free to read at this link, excerpts below:

    https://archive.ph/24yHo

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism

    By Dominic Pino - May 9, 2025 - NATIONAL REVIEW

    "The new pope is taking the regnal name Leo XIV. The last Pope Leo was
    in office from 1878 to 1903...

    Perhaps his most famous written work is Rerum novarum, an 1891
    encyclical “on capital and labor” that is often described as charting a third way between capitalism and socialism for Catholic teaching...

    This description is incomplete, if not entirely wrong, as Rerum novarum
    is very clear that socialism is evil, and markets and private property
    are essential to human flourishing...

    And Leo XIII composed some of the strongest denunciations of socialism
    ever written. It was a major theme of his papacy from beginning to
    end...

    Leo XIII believed socialism was based on the sin of envy, contrary to
    God’s justice, bad for the poor, destructive of the family and of communities, and detrimental to the incentives to work, which is part of God’s design for mankind...

    He said socialists pervert Scripture and reject God’s authority...

    He used words like “evil,” “wicked,” “plague,” “monstrous,” and “hideous” to describe socialism, words he never used to reference
    markets or private property...

    On the contrary, he said private property is a bedrock part of God’s
    natural order for the world, and it must be protected, not undermined,
    by the state, and that true Christian teaching is a defense against socialism...

    If Leo XIV was inspired by Leo XIII’s legacy in choosing his regnal
    name, it would be great to see a resurgence in Catholic teaching on the
    evils of socialism..."

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    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 10 05:27:17 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:20:19 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Thu, 8 May 2025 21:58:10 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    Congrats? My wife was excited about the new Pope being American. "You're
    not Catholic" said I.

    "I was raised a Catholic!" This was the first time I've seen her excited >about religion. Now I really am ascared.

    Haha.

    I wasn't raised a Catholic but it was hard to avoid because I was born
    in a very Catholic city. Then the 60s came and now it's the most
    left-wing city in the country, nicknamed Havana. So beware.

    --
    Bruce
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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 19:26:24 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 14:45:50 +0000, gm wrote:

    The last Pope Leo was VERY anti - socialism (like YOU!), and vehemently
    so... wonder if the new one will follow suit...???

    Pope Leo XIII was prescient in a manner few human beings have ever been;
    he sees Christianity and socialism as necessarily opposed to one another
    ... AND he was condemning socialism LONG before the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution...!!!

    He wrote in 1881: "The century’s most blatant force of satanic
    utopianism is communism."...

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism (from NATIONAL
    REVIEW); free to read at this link, excerpts below:

    https://archive.ph/24yHo

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism

    By Dominic Pino - May 9, 2025 - NATIONAL REVIEW

    "The new pope is taking the regnal name Leo XIV. The last Pope Leo was
    in office from 1878 to 1903...

    Perhaps his most famous written work is Rerum novarum, an 1891
    encyclical “on capital and labor” that is often described as charting a third way between capitalism and socialism for Catholic teaching...

    This description is incomplete, if not entirely wrong, as Rerum novarum
    is very clear that socialism is evil, and markets and private property
    are essential to human flourishing...

    And Leo XIII composed some of the strongest denunciations of socialism
    ever written. It was a major theme of his papacy from beginning to
    end...

    Leo XIII believed socialism was based on the sin of envy, contrary to
    God’s justice, bad for the poor, destructive of the family and of communities, and detrimental to the incentives to work, which is part of God’s design for mankind...

    He said socialists pervert Scripture and reject God’s authority...

    He used words like “evil,” “wicked,” “plague,” “monstrous,” and
    “hideous” to describe socialism, words he never used to reference
    markets or private property...

    On the contrary, he said private property is a bedrock part of God’s natural order for the world, and it must be protected, not undermined,
    by the state, and that true Christian teaching is a defense against socialism...

    If Leo XIV was inspired by Leo XIII’s legacy in choosing his regnal
    name, it would be great to see a resurgence in Catholic teaching on the
    evils of socialism..."


    I boldly predict that Leo XIV will not fit well into your views of the
    new world order and the treatment of other human beings and immigrants.
    That's okay, you'll always have Trump - at least for a while.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 19:50:36 2025
    dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 14:45:50 +0000, gm wrote:

    The last Pope Leo was VERY anti - socialism (like YOU!), and vehemently
    so... wonder if the new one will follow suit...???

    Pope Leo XIII was prescient in a manner few human beings have ever been;
    he sees Christianity and socialism as necessarily opposed to one another
    ... AND he was condemning socialism LONG before the 1917 Bolshevik
    Revolution...!!!

    He wrote in 1881: "The century’s most blatant force of satanic
    utopianism is communism."...

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism (from NATIONAL
    REVIEW); free to read at this link, excerpts below:

    https://archive.ph/24yHo

    The Last Pope Leo Had Some Great Takes on Socialism

    By Dominic Pino - May 9, 2025 - NATIONAL REVIEW

    "The new pope is taking the regnal name Leo XIV. The last Pope Leo was
    in office from 1878 to 1903...

    Perhaps his most famous written work is Rerum novarum, an 1891
    encyclical “on capital and labor” that is often described as charting a >> third way between capitalism and socialism for Catholic teaching...

    This description is incomplete, if not entirely wrong, as Rerum novarum
    is very clear that socialism is evil, and markets and private property
    are essential to human flourishing...

    And Leo XIII composed some of the strongest denunciations of socialism
    ever written. It was a major theme of his papacy from beginning to
    end...

    Leo XIII believed socialism was based on the sin of envy, contrary to
    God’s justice, bad for the poor, destructive of the family and of
    communities, and detrimental to the incentives to work, which is part of
    God’s design for mankind...

    He said socialists pervert Scripture and reject God’s authority...

    He used words like “evil,” “wicked,” “plague,” “monstrous,” and
    “hideous” to describe socialism, words he never used to reference
    markets or private property...

    On the contrary, he said private property is a bedrock part of God’s
    natural order for the world, and it must be protected, not undermined,
    by the state, and that true Christian teaching is a defense against
    socialism...

    If Leo XIV was inspired by Leo XIII’s legacy in choosing his regnal
    name, it would be great to see a resurgence in Catholic teaching on the
    evils of socialism..."


    I boldly predict that Leo XIV will not fit well into your views of the
    new world order and the treatment of other human beings and immigrants. That's okay, you'll always have Trump - at least for a while.


    BOO...!!!


    House On Haunted Hill (1959)

    https://moviesalamark.com/2021/04/12/house-on-haunted-hill-1959/

    HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL, starring Vincent Price, directed by William
    Castle in 1959, made for just $200,000, managed to lure enough teens and
    kids into theaters to return $4,300,000, 61st place that year.
    Subsequent showings on the boob tube during the 60s snared new
    victims...

    In some theaters equipped for it, director Castle used a promo gimmick
    he called “Emergo”, where pulleys dragged plastic skeletons to rattle
    over the audience at a key point...

    Vincent Price:

    “I am Frederick Loren, and I have rented The House on Haunted Hill
    tonight so that my wife can give a party. She’s so amusing...

    There’ll be food and drink and ghosts, and perhaps even a few murders...

    You’re all invited. If any of you will spend the next twelve hours in
    this house, I will give you each ten thousand dollars, or your next of
    kin in case you don’t survive...

    Ah, but here come our other guests...

    So,What’s the use of saying, “Good night”?

    Nora, I think you’re a little upset. Would you care for a
    sedative...???"

    l8-D

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    GM

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Fri May 9 19:20:19 2025
    On Thu, 8 May 2025 21:58:10 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:


    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    Congrats? My wife was excited about the new Pope being American. "You're
    not Catholic" said I.

    "I was raised a Catholic!" This was the first time I've seen her excited
    about religion. Now I really am ascared.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 20:19:04 2025
    On 2025-05-09, dsi1 wrote:

    I boldly predict that Leo XIV will not fit
    well into your views of the new world order
    and the treatment of other human beings and immigrants.

    I agree. Electing a USA American as Pope means that
    if Leo disgraces the Trump, Americans cannot say:
    "Just a foreigner's opinion; ignore."

    It is an object lesson of Italian Machiavellian plotting.

    I prefer to think in terms of probabalistic predictions.

    Encapsulating Trump policy into his own word-view and
    integrating towards the future, we will arrive soon
    at a singularity. His own perception of his own power
    is growing exponentially. Soon it will reach black hole
    'Godhood' dimensions where it starts to resonate with
    non-deterministic functions actually imposed by the gods,
    or just by quantum uncertainty if gods do not exist.

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    To be gender neutral, I should say non-sex-toy dolls.

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 20:51:29 2025
    Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2025-05-09, dsi1 wrote:

    I boldly predict that Leo XIV will not fit
    well into your views of the new world order
    and the treatment of other human beings and immigrants.

    I agree. Electing a USA American as Pope means that
    if Leo disgraces the Trump, Americans cannot say:
    "Just a foreigner's opinion; ignore."

    It is an object lesson of Italian Machiavellian plotting.

    I prefer to think in terms of probabalistic predictions.

    Encapsulating Trump policy into his own word-view and
    integrating towards the future, we will arrive soon
    at a singularity. His own perception of his own power
    is growing exponentially. Soon it will reach black hole
    'Godhood' dimensions where it starts to resonate with
    non-deterministic functions actually imposed by the gods,
    or just by quantum uncertainty if gods do not exist.

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    To be gender neutral, I should say non-sex-toy dolls.


    I a - hear that "dsi1" will be making Hawaiian "Hula" dolls for all the
    little American kidz on the MAINLAND that want them...

    There will be a "Hula Barbie" and a "Hula Ken"... also a "Hula Raggedy
    Ann"...

    And since Hawaiians LUV Las Vegas, there will be "Vegas" - type
    "accroutements" for these wonderful dolls...

    --
    GM

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 21:03:05 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:19:04 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
    I agree. Electing a USA American as Pope means that
    if Leo disgraces the Trump, Americans cannot say:
    "Just a foreigner's opinion; ignore."

    It is an object lesson of Italian Machiavellian plotting.

    I prefer to think in terms of probabalistic predictions.

    Encapsulating Trump policy into his own word-view and
    integrating towards the future, we will arrive soon
    at a singularity. His own perception of his own power
    is growing exponentially. Soon it will reach black hole
    'Godhood' dimensions where it starts to resonate with
    non-deterministic functions actually imposed by the gods,
    or just by quantum uncertainty if gods do not exist.

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    To be gender neutral, I should say non-sex-toy dolls.

    There's no mystery involved. Our fearless leader is bat-shit insane.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F6X-xCXJYCU

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 20:56:42 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:50:36 +0000, gm wrote:

    BOO...!!!

    YAY!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx4s9HalpVk

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 10 07:38:01 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 21:03:05 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:19:04 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
    I agree. Electing a USA American as Pope means that
    if Leo disgraces the Trump, Americans cannot say:
    "Just a foreigner's opinion; ignore."

    It is an object lesson of Italian Machiavellian plotting.

    I prefer to think in terms of probabalistic predictions.

    Encapsulating Trump policy into his own word-view and
    integrating towards the future, we will arrive soon
    at a singularity. His own perception of his own power
    is growing exponentially. Soon it will reach black hole
    'Godhood' dimensions where it starts to resonate with
    non-deterministic functions actually imposed by the gods,
    or just by quantum uncertainty if gods do not exist.

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    To be gender neutral, I should say non-sex-toy dolls.

    There's no mystery involved. Our fearless leader is bat-shit insane.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F6X-xCXJYCU

    Your minister of Defense, Hogstew or something, also is a complete
    idiot and an amateur to boot.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Fri May 9 17:16:06 2025
    On 2025-05-09 8:29 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 12:24 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.


    I don't think that Pius XII was. Ask Ed. "Real Catholics" enjoy the
    services in Latin. At least they did when I was a kid.
    I knew a man once, who rejected Catholic Reform. He and his wife
    attended the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) to avoid having to hear
    services in English. I blame Pope John and the Second Vatican Council.
    Ed, take it from here!


    The problem was how it was taught, or more accurate, how it was not
    taught.  The mass in latin is more eloquent, but, going to Catholic
    school were were never told what the words meant and what was going on
    up there on the alter.  Perhaps other schools were better.

    I may have had a better attitude about if is someone told me what Et cum spiritu tuo meant early on.

    Dominus vobiscum


    I don't know what exactly what the RC teaches their membership about Protestantism and it's conflicts with Catholicism, but the Protest
    Reformation was a movement started by Catholics who were fed up with the
    church enriching itself by the sale of a load of crap by the church. The
    bible was written in a language the people didn't understand and in
    books they could not afford. They didn't know that stuff they were
    expected to buy into and to pay for had no basis in the bible. Goodness
    knows how many rich old people paid fortunes for indulgences that would
    get then into heaven.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 10 07:41:19 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:16:06 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-05-09 8:29 a.m., Ed P wrote:

    The problem was how it was taught, or more accurate, how it was not
    taught.  The mass in latin is more eloquent, but, going to Catholic
    school were were never told what the words meant and what was going on
    up there on the alter.  Perhaps other schools were better.

    I may have had a better attitude about if is someone told me what Et cum
    spiritu tuo meant early on.

    Dominus vobiscum

    I don't know what exactly what the RC teaches their membership about >Protestantism and it's conflicts with Catholicism, but the Protest >Reformation was a movement started by Catholics who were fed up with the >church enriching itself by the sale of a load of crap by the church. The >bible was written in a language the people didn't understand and in
    books they could not afford. They didn't know that stuff they were
    expected to buy into and to pay for had no basis in the bible. Goodness
    knows how many rich old people paid fortunes for indulgences that would
    get then into heaven.

    I think that, from an RC point of view, Protestants are their closest
    non Catholic brethren. Same God, same book, all Christians. Much
    closer than the Muslim or Hindus, let alone the atheists.

    --
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Fri May 9 21:43:13 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Mike Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    I think that's already happened.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    Dolls are just an example of stuff we buy from China.

    When will MAGA realize that Trump's tariffs are a War on Christmas?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 9 21:43:51 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 21:03:05 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:19:04 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
    I agree. Electing a USA American as Pope means that
    if Leo disgraces the Trump, Americans cannot say:
    "Just a foreigner's opinion; ignore."

    It is an object lesson of Italian Machiavellian plotting.

    I prefer to think in terms of probabalistic predictions.

    Encapsulating Trump policy into his own word-view and
    integrating towards the future, we will arrive soon
    at a singularity. His own perception of his own power
    is growing exponentially. Soon it will reach black hole
    'Godhood' dimensions where it starts to resonate with
    non-deterministic functions actually imposed by the gods,
    or just by quantum uncertainty if gods do not exist.

    From the non-Trump point of view, it will simply appear
    that your fearless leader will have a sharp departure
    from reality.

    And can a USA American please explain what's up with
    the new tariffs on girl dolls and boy toys?

    To be gender neutral, I should say non-sex-toy dolls.

    There's no mystery involved. Our fearless leader is bat-shit insane.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F6X-xCXJYCU


    BEWARE - the BAT...!!!

    The Bat is a 1959 American crime-mystery thriller starring Vincent Price
    and Agnes Moorehead

    Overview:

    A killer called the Bat has claimed many lives in the small town
    inhabited by novelist Cornelia van Gorder (Agnes Moorehead) and her
    maid, Lizzie (Lenita Lane). As Cornelia implores Dr. Malcolm Wells
    (Vincent Price) to help her ailing maid, $1 million in the town's bank
    goes missing. With greed and fear reaching new heights, police Lt. Andy Anderson (Gavin Gordon) goes to Cornelia's house to investigate
    additional murders committed by the Bat...

    The Bat was distributed in 1959 on a double bill with the British Hammer
    film The Mummy. Now in the public domain, The Bat is available for
    online download on YouTube...


    "In my report I shall state that death was caused by a stunning blow
    followed by severe laceration and hemorrhage...

    In plain English, he didn't know what hit him..."

    - Dr. Malcolm Wells (Vincent Price)

    😎

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    GM

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Fri May 9 18:51:35 2025
    On 5/9/2025 5:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-05-09 8:29 a.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 5/9/2025 12:24 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-05-08, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    But the pope (any pope) is a very modern and progressive man compared
    to you.


    I don't think that Pius XII was. Ask Ed. "Real Catholics" enjoy the
    services in Latin. At least they did when I was a kid.
    I knew a man once, who rejected Catholic Reform. He and his wife
    attended the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) to avoid having to hear
    services in English. I blame Pope John and the Second Vatican Council.
    Ed, take it from here!


    The problem was how it was taught, or more accurate, how it was not
    taught.  The mass in latin is more eloquent, but, going to Catholic
    school were were never told what the words meant and what was going on
    up there on the alter.  Perhaps other schools were better.

    I may have had a better attitude about if is someone told me what Et
    cum spiritu tuo meant early on.

    Dominus vobiscum


    I don't know what exactly what the RC teaches their membership about Protestantism and it's conflicts with Catholicism,  but the Protest Reformation was a movement started by Catholics who were fed up with the church enriching itself by the sale of a load of crap by the church. The bible was written in a language the people didn't understand and in
    books they could not afford. They didn't know that stuff they were
    expected to buy into and to pay for had no basis in the bible. Goodness
    knows how many rich old people paid fortunes for indulgences that would
    get then into heaven.




    Hey, hey, hey. we were taught the Catholic religion is the only true
    religion. Some of those believers of off brands may still get into
    heaven because they don't know any better.

    Many of us are part of a particular religion because our parents were.
    I never explored others, never thought enough about them that I wanted
    to join one. I guess it can influence people's lives to be better, but
    that should be the job of parents.

    Does heaven exist? I have no idea. Evidence?

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 10 22:36:43 2025
    On Fri, 9 May 2025 21:38:01 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Your minister of Defense, Hogstew or something, also is a complete
    idiot and an amateur to boot.

    Oddly enough, we saw our doctor recently. He comes into the room and
    said "did you see what your president did today?" That was shocking with
    the added enhancement of being puzzling. "He's not our president!" We
    said defensively.

    In the end, we agreed that the Trump presidency is the defining moment
    that would propel China into the forefront of the world stage just as
    surely as the end of WWII brought America to its place in history.
    Russia will continue to be a third rate country - hopefully, Putin
    doesn't go senile and press the big red button down.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtovFI8etOg

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 11 00:55:25 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 22:36:43 +0000, dsi1 wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 21:38:01 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Your minister of Defense, Hogstew or something, also is a complete
    idiot and an amateur to boot.

    Oddly enough, we saw our doctor recently. He comes into the room and
    said "did you see what your president did today?" That was shocking with
    the added enhancement of being puzzling. "He's not our president!" We
    said defensively.

    In the end, we agreed that the Trump presidency is the defining moment
    that would propel China into the forefront of the world stage just as
    surely as the end of WWII brought America to its place in history.
    Russia will continue to be a third rate country - hopefully, Putin
    doesn't go senile and press the big red button down.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtovFI8etOg


    The Navajo people of Northeastern Arizona, New Mexico and Utah call the
    turkey Tązhii and relate the bird to the corn and seeds which The Turkey
    in Navajo folklore brought from the Third Navajo World...

    It is one of the Navajos' sacred birds, with the Navajo people using the feathers and parts in multiple traditional ceremonies...


    🦃 🐔 🦃

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    GM

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 11 11:22:43 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 22:36:43 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 21:38:01 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Your minister of Defense, Hogstew or something, also is a complete
    idiot and an amateur to boot.

    Oddly enough, we saw our doctor recently. He comes into the room and
    said "did you see what your president did today?" That was shocking with
    the added enhancement of being puzzling. "He's not our president!" We
    said defensively.

    In the end, we agreed that the Trump presidency is the defining moment
    that would propel China into the forefront of the world stage just as
    surely as the end of WWII brought America to its place in history.
    Russia will continue to be a third rate country - hopefully, Putin
    doesn't go senile and press the big red button down.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtovFI8etOg

    The problem with China is that it's a genocidal dictatorship. They're
    backward in that way. Trump's starting to compete with them, though.

    Did you read about the American embassy in Stockholm? I think they're
    losing the plot.

    "The Stockholm City Council has rejected the US embassy's demand that
    it adopt the Trump administration's anti-diversity policies, with
    Stockholm's vice-mayor for planning calling the request "bizarre".
    Several European nations and cities have slammed US efforts to force
    its anti-DEI policies on the continent. " <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250509-stockholm-refuses-bizarre-us-trump-request-to-reject-diversity-dei-policies>



    --
    Bruce
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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun May 11 22:31:00 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    Does heaven exist? I have no idea. Evidence?


    Isaac Newton spent about half of his extremely valuable time trying to
    prove the existence of God. He wasn't able to. Boy, my thought processes
    would be vastly different if he had!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun May 11 22:40:04 2025
    On 2025-05-09, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 8 May 2025 21:58:10 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    They just named the new Pope after *ME*! ;)

    Pope Leonardo I, young:
    https://ibb.co/pBK7tRgp

    Pope Leonardo I, a bit older:
    https://ibb.co/qM0GXrXk


    Saved! Fear me!

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  • From dsi1@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon May 12 04:38:02 2025
    On Sun, 11 May 2025 1:22:43 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    The problem with China is that it's a genocidal dictatorship. They're backward in that way. Trump's starting to compete with them, though.

    Did you read about the American embassy in Stockholm? I think they're
    losing the plot.

    "The Stockholm City Council has rejected the US embassy's demand that
    it adopt the Trump administration's anti-diversity policies, with
    Stockholm's vice-mayor for planning calling the request "bizarre".
    Several European nations and cities have slammed US efforts to force
    its anti-DEI policies on the continent. " <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250509-stockholm-refuses-bizarre-us-trump-request-to-reject-diversity-dei-policies>



    As far as genocidal dictatorships goes, China is a pretty awesome place!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9vXFGGbcg

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon May 12 15:54:13 2025
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 04:38:02 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:

    On Sun, 11 May 2025 1:22:43 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    The problem with China is that it's a genocidal dictatorship. They're
    backward in that way. Trump's starting to compete with them, though.

    Did you read about the American embassy in Stockholm? I think they're
    losing the plot.

    "The Stockholm City Council has rejected the US embassy's demand that
    it adopt the Trump administration's anti-diversity policies, with
    Stockholm's vice-mayor for planning calling the request "bizarre".
    Several European nations and cities have slammed US efforts to force
    its anti-DEI policies on the continent. "
    <https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250509-stockholm-refuses-bizarre-us-trump-request-to-reject-diversity-dei-policies>



    As far as genocidal dictatorships goes, China is a pretty awesome place!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9vXFGGbcg

    As far as genocidal madmen go, Hitler was an awesome guy.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/JhVjfHY8/trumputin.jpg>

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