Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
I always get the McGriddle, sausage and cheese.
Back when I was working, that was out usual Thursday meal I'd pick up on
the way in for Sue (office manager) and I.
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
Went for routine blood work this morning.� Usually, I stop at McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home.� Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by.� This morning, it was empty.� Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up.� Never had that happen.
I always get the McGriddle, sausage and cheese.
Back when I was working, that was out usual Thursday meal I'd pick up on
the way in for Sue (office manager) and I.
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning.� Usually, I stop at McD's andNo line at Mickey D's??� The world is coming to an end!
pick up breakfast on the way home.� Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by.� This morning, it was empty.� Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up.� Never had that happen.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and >>> pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, INo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
Maybe trump deported all da Hawaiians to el salvador last night!
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home.
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
I always get the McGriddle, sausage and cheese.
Back when I was working, that was out usual Thursday meal I'd pick up on
the way in for Sue (office manager) and I.
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's andNo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's andNo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
On 2025-04-09 5:37 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and >>> pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, INo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
We have one McDs in town and it must be one of their most unprofitable franchises ever. It used to be right across the street from a pub where
we used to go for dinner once in a while. It was often empty.
Hank Rogers wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:It's the one with the dumpster where he eats with the raccoons and bunny birds sitting on his shoulders.� You just can't top free food.
On 2025-04-09 5:37 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop atNo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so
long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car
just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
We have one McDs in town and it must be one of their most
unprofitable franchises ever. It used to be right across the street
from a pub where we used to go for dinner once in a while. It was
often empty.
Is that the one where you dump all the trash you've picked up along
the roadsides?
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:09:28 -0500, Mandrake the Praetorian <[email protected]> wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote:
Mandrake the Praetorian wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:It's the one with the dumpster where he eats with the raccoons and
On 2025-04-09 5:37 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at >>>>>>>> McD's andNo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so >>>>>>>> long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car
just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
We have one McDs in town and it must be one of their most
unprofitable franchises ever. It used to be right across the street >>>>>> from a pub where we used to go for dinner once in a while. It was
often empty.
Is that the one where you dump all the trash you've picked up along
the roadsides?
bunny birds sitting on his shoulders. You just can't top free food.
Are you sure? That could have been back when Master Bruce had his last
meltdown and was impersonating Officer dave.
That was fun, but I only do that with sufficient reason.
Hank Rogers wrote:
Mandrake the Praetorian wrote:
Hank Rogers wrote:
Dave Smith wrote:It's the one with the dumpster where he eats with the raccoons and
On 2025-04-09 5:37 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:46:39 +0000, Ed P wrote:
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at >>>>>>> McD's andNo line at Mickey D's?? The world is coming to an end!
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so >>>>>>> long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car
just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
We have one McDs in town and it must be one of their most
unprofitable franchises ever. It used to be right across the street
from a pub where we used to go for dinner once in a while. It was
often empty.
Is that the one where you dump all the trash you've picked up along
the roadsides?
bunny birds sitting on his shoulders. You just can't top free food.
Are you sure? That could have been back when Master Bruce had his last
meltdown and was impersonating Officer dave.
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
On 2025-04-09, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
we got robbed at a mcd drive through monday night. dropped my
wife's vehicle off at the auto shop monday evening for a tuesday
morning appointment and on the way home there's a mcd. she said,
hey stop at mcd i have a taste for a bacon double cheeseburger.
i stared pulling into a parking spot and she said just go thru
the drive thru, we're only getting one thing. i loathe drive
thrus with a passion, i'd rather walk in. but i comply and we
roll through the drive through, order the sandwich paying an
extra $2 for the bacon. we get home and there's no mothefucking
bacon on the sandwich!
my experience with drive thrus is they rarely make orders
correctly. which is one of the reasons i passionately loathe
using them. fuck drive thrus. that is all.
we got robbed at a mcd drive through [...] we get home
and there's no mothefucking bacon on the sandwich!
Went for routine blood work this morning. Usually, I stop at McD's and
pick up breakfast on the way home. Last time, the line was so long, I
just passed on by. This morning, it was empty. Once car just pulled
away as I pulled up. Never had that happen.
I always get the McGriddle, sausage and cheese.
Back when I was working, that was out usual Thursday meal I'd pick up on
the way in for Sue (office manager) and I.
I'm glad I was able to share this exciting news on no line at the drive
thru.
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or
go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly
from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age
of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or
go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly
from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age
of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or
go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly
from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age
of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
;-D
--
GM
--
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and
his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions
and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JS1BbHSevgwz9PNu6
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:12:12 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and
his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions >>and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JS1BbHSevgwz9PNu6
Trump was acting like a complete amateur and then he got scared. And
that Vance punk calling the Chinese peasants didn't help either. What
an embarrassment. The Trump cult must be losing members.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 22:17:10 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or
go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly >>> from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age >>> of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump
immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da
Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
;-D
--
GM
--
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and
his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions
and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JS1BbHSevgwz9PNu6
What kind of stupid American wants to work in a factory assembling
stupid shit? Only MAGA knows for sure. It's the drone-ifacation of
America. Getting rid of the American Educational System is a good start.
In the near future, Americans will be so dumb that they're only able to
do repetitious factory work for 2 dollars an hour. It's the rich man's
dream!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8s-Xx7aJsg
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 15:33:00 +1000, Bruce <[email protected]d>
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 05:12:12 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and >>>his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions >>>and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JS1BbHSevgwz9PNu6
Trump was acting like a complete amateur and then he got scared. And
that Vance punk calling the Chinese peasants didn't help either. What
an embarrassment. The Trump cult must be losing members.
In the meantime, the Chinese are having fun on the Internet: <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14595043/China-unveils-vicious-new-AI-roasting-fat-lazy-Americans-tariffs-chaos-continues.html>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfkzkNqCuQ>
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 6:30:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 15:33:00 +1000, Bruce <[email protected]d>
wrote:
Trump was acting like a complete amateur and then he got scared. And
that Vance punk calling the Chinese peasants didn't help either. What
an embarrassment. The Trump cult must be losing members.
In the meantime, the Chinese are having fun on the Internet:
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14595043/China-unveils-vicious-new-AI-roasting-fat-lazy-Americans-tariffs-chaos-continues.html>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfkzkNqCuQ>
What kind of stupid American wants to work in a factory assembling
stupid shit?
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 22:17:10 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or
go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly >>> from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age >>> of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump
immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da
Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and
his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions
and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-11, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 22:17:10 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or >>>>> go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly >>>>> from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age >>>>> of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump >>>> immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da
Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and
his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're
a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions >>> and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
suggest not overlook cryptocurrency. what few regulations it had
are currently being gutted. is a very convenient means for bribery.
<https://cryptonews.com/news/senator-chris-murphy-accuses-trump-of-running-crypto-backdoor-bribery-scheme>
Owning cryptocurrency is worse than owning slaves.
On 2025-04-11, Mandrake the Perihelion <[email protected]> wrote:
flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-11, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 22:17:10 +0000, gm wrote:
dsi1 wrote:
It wasn't luck. People are not in the mood to buy food at McDonald's or >>>>>> go shopping or do much of anything these days. Shortly, we'll be
learning new ways of doing things - things like eating cat food directly >>>>>> from the can and living without electricity. We're moving into a new age >>>>>> of living/surviving/existing. Is that exciting or what?
Since you're an "alien", you should consider getting one of them Trump >>>>> immigrant "gold cards" so's you can live "high on the hog" here on da >>>>> Mainland, David...
Who knows, President Trump may even make you an "honourary white"...!!!
Congrats - the American people just got ripped off by the president and >>>> his rich buddies in an obvious tampering of the stock market and you're >>>> a grinning, happy, idiot. It's a scam of the most outrageous proportions >>>> and one third of the citizens are too stupid to figure out what
happened. I'm moving to Iceland.
suggest not overlook cryptocurrency. what few regulations it had
are currently being gutted. is a very convenient means for bribery.
<https://cryptonews.com/news/senator-chris-murphy-accuses-trump-of-running-crypto-backdoor-bribery-scheme>
Owning cryptocurrency is worse than owning slaves.
it's a ponzi scheme. i've never used it nor will i ever.
I still wonder though, if a computer somewhere
crashed overnight if it would be gone.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 09:23:38 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 6:30:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 15:33:00 +1000, Bruce <[email protected]d>
wrote:
Trump was acting like a complete amateur and then he got scared. And >>>>that Vance punk calling the Chinese peasants didn't help either. What >>>>an embarrassment. The Trump cult must be losing members.
In the meantime, the Chinese are having fun on the Internet:
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14595043/China-unveils-vicious-new-AI-roasting-fat-lazy-Americans-tariffs-chaos-continues.html>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfkzkNqCuQ>
What kind of stupid American wants to work in a factory assembling
stupid shit?
If it was a 40 hour work week and would pay for a basic house, a basic
car, normal healthcare and an old age pension, wouldn't it be ok? But
would all that be the case? Wouldn't all the money go to some rich
person, at the expense of the workers? The joys of capitalism and all
that?
On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 10:45:53 +0000, Bruce wrote:
If it was a 40 hour work week and would pay for a basic house, a basic
car, normal healthcare and an old age pension, wouldn't it be ok? But
would all that be the case? Wouldn't all the money go to some rich
person, at the expense of the workers? The joys of capitalism and all
that?
I wouldn't know about any of that stuff. Hawaiians typically have a two >income household. That's just the way things go here. Back in the 70's,
we worked for about 5 bucks an hour each. We were able to pay rent, buy
food, and have cable TV on such paltry earnings.
Hawaii's plantation history made us the most woke state of the union.
Health insurance was provided by the employer for full time workers. The >State of Hawaii is our biggest employer. Unions are strong here.
Anything that adds parity between workers and bosses is always a good
thing. I'm not saying that Hawaii is a worker's paradise. Life is kind
of tough here. In spite of that, Hawaii is among the healthiest and
happiest states in America. That's just the way things go here.
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
On 2025-04-11 5:42 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress
plays Snow White in a movie?
Nope. Not if you are happy with a remake of Roots with a white Kunte Kinte.
On 2025-04-11, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-11 5:42 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress
plays Snow White in a movie?
Nope. Not if you are happy with a remake of Roots with a white Kunte Kinte.
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or >slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
On 4/11/2025 11:39 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or
slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
Sure it was.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/racist-origins-of-blackface/index.html
It’s been nearly 200 years since white performers first started painting >their faces black to mock enslaved Africans in minstrel shows across the >United States. It was racist and offensive then, and it’s still racist
and offensive today.
On 4/11/2025 11:39 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or
slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
Sure it was.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/racist-origins-of-blackface/index.html
It’s been nearly 200 years since white performers first started painting their faces black to mock enslaved Africans in minstrel shows across the United States. It was racist and offensive then, and it’s still racist
and offensive today.
On 2025-04-12, Mandrake the Perihelion wrote:
[...] BTW I prefer them to pecans and walnuts.
Concur & prefer roasting my nuts: 3*(10:00 @ 350 F, stir), cool.
If feeling adventurous start by rubbing nuts with honey.
[...] BTW I prefer them to pecans and walnuts.
On 2025-04-11 5:42 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
Nope. Not if you are happy with a remake of Roots with a white Kunte Kinte.
it's a ponzi scheme. i've never used it nor will i ever.
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
On 4/11/2025 11:39 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or
slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
Sure it was.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/racist-origins-of-blackface/index.html
It’s been nearly 200 years since white performers first started painting their faces black to mock enslaved Africans in minstrel shows across the United States. It was racist and offensive then, and it’s still racist
and offensive today.
On 2025-04-11, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 5:42 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
Nope. Not if you are happy with a remake of Roots with a white Kunte Kinte.
I don't think I'd be happy with any remake of Roots. I also didn't
need remakes of The Magnificent Seven, War of the Worlds, or The
Longest Yard. Or practically any other remake that Hollywood has
seen fit to foist on us. I'm grateful Casablanca seems to be off
limits nowadays.
On 2025-04-12 4:49 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-11, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 5:42 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:I don't think I'd be happy with any remake of Roots. I also didn't
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
Nope. Not if you are happy with a remake of Roots with a white Kunte Kinte. >>
need remakes of The Magnificent Seven, War of the Worlds, or The
Longest Yard. Or practically any other remake that Hollywood has
seen fit to foist on us. I'm grateful Casablanca seems to be off
limits nowadays.
I tend to avoid remakes. There aren't many that have been an improvement
on the original. I liked the original Total Recall. The remake was
horrible. That being said, the most recent remake of All Quiet on the
Western Front was great.
Occasionally I will find out that a film was a
remake after I've already watched it. In such
a case I usually side with the remake. Unfortunately,
I can't think of any examples right now.
Western Front was great.
The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't horrible. It just
wasn't necessary. I would have preferred to see the cast in
something original. Same thing for the recent remake of
3:10 to Yuma.
Those whippersnappers should just learn to love black-and-white cinematography.
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
On 4/11/2025 11:39 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-11 7:26 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
FFS, David. What do you think 'black face' is for anyways?Apparently it is for getting people into deep shit.
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or
slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
Sure it was.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/racist-origins-of-blackface/index.html
It’s been nearly 200 years since white performers first started painting their faces black to mock enslaved Africans in minstrel shows across the United States. It was racist and offensive then, and it’s still racist
and offensive today.
On 4/12/2025 3:26 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Western Front was great.I preferred Seven Samurai to the Magnificent Seven.
The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't horrible. It just
wasn't necessary. I would have preferred to see the cast in
something original. Same thing for the recent remake of
3:10 to Yuma.
On 2025-04-12, Mandrake the Perihelion wrote:
Occasionally I will find out that a film was a
remake after I've already watched it. In such
a case I usually side with the remake. Unfortunately,
I can't think of any examples right now.
This was my experience with "Day of the Triffids".
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
I tend to avoid remakes. There aren't many that have been an improvement
on the original. I liked the original Total Recall. The remake was
horrible. That being said, the most recent remake of All Quiet on the
Western Front was great.
The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't horrible. It just
wasn't necessary. I would have preferred to see the cast in
something original. Same thing for the recent remake of
3:10 to Yuma.
Those whippersnappers should just learn to love black-and-white cinematography.
On 4/12/2025 12:01 AM, Ed P wrote:
On 4/11/2025 11:39 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
Didn't used to be. Are we moving forward or backward? Do we glorify or
slander people by erasing their ethnicity and gender?
Sure it was.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/racist-origins-of-blackface/index.html
It’s been nearly 200 years since white performers first started painting >> their faces black to mock enslaved Africans in minstrel shows across the
United States. It was racist and offensive then, and it’s still racist
and offensive today.
I watched a new episode of 'Finding Your Roots' on PBS a couple of weeks
ago.
On 2025-04-12, S Viemeister <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 3:26 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Western Front was great.I preferred Seven Samurai to the Magnificent Seven.
The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't horrible. It just
wasn't necessary. I would have preferred to see the cast in
something original. Same thing for the recent remake of
3:10 to Yuma.
Haven't seen it. I've seen Ran, though.
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
On 2025-04-12, Jill McQuown <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Oh, I don't know if anybody demanded it. But the latest live-action
version featured color-blind casting, ending up with a somewhat dusky
Snow White of Colombian descent.
On 2025-04-12 11:31 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
How would we be with a woke version of Tarzan. He was the son of
British peerage in the 19th century so he as British and white.
On 2025-04-12, Jill McQuown <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Oh, I don't know if anybody demanded it. But the latest live-action
version featured color-blind casting, ending up with a somewhat dusky
Snow White of Colombian descent.
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
People expected a white Snow White, and howled like monkeys about
the casting. The actor didn't help herself any by criticizing
Donald Trump. And the movie gained some bad press by casting Gal
Godot as the wicket queen. Godot is an Israeli who served in the
IDF and is a vocal supporter of Israel.
On 2025-04-12 10:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
I tend to avoid remakes. There aren't many that have been an improvement >>> on the original. I liked the original Total Recall. The remake was
horrible. That being said, the most recent remake of All Quiet on the
Western Front was great.
The remake of The Magnificent Seven wasn't horrible. It just
wasn't necessary. I would have preferred to see the cast in
something original. Same thing for the recent remake of
3:10 to Yuma.
Those whippersnappers should just learn to love black-and-white
cinematography.
My thoughts may differ from others but I liked the remake of True Grit
much better than the original with John Wayne. Maybe it's because I
never thought much of John Wayne's acting skills. He is one of a number
of Hollywood stars who made a good living playing the same character in
a few dozen different roles.
On 2025-04-12 10:44 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Jill McQuown <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get
hysterical
and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Oh, I don't know if anybody demanded it. But the latest live-action
version featured color-blind casting, ending up with a somewhat dusky
Snow White of Colombian descent.
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
People expected a white Snow White, and howled like monkeys about
the casting. The actor didn't help herself any by criticizing
Donald Trump. And the movie gained some bad press by casting Gal
Godot as the wicket queen. Godot is an Israeli who served in the
IDF and is a vocal supporter of Israel.
Denzel Washington has starred in Macbeth so perhaps we shouldn't
criticise Laurence Olivier playing Othello in blackface,
Maybe it's because I never thought much of
John Wayne's acting skills. He is one of a
number of Hollywood stars who made a good
living playing the same character in a
few dozen different roles.
On 2025-04-12 11:31 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published
in 1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white
people to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No
one cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
How would we be with a woke version of Tarzan. He was the son of
British peerage in the 19th century so he as British and white.
Rapunzel Rapunzel let down your fro.
(re: 'Day of the Triffids')
The 1963 film, the 1981 BBC series, or the 2009 BBC series?
Ah, but one must admit the 1930's versions of those films starring
Johnny Weissmuller as Tarzan and Maureen O'Sullivan as Jane were the
best! They got a little stupid later when "boy" (Johnny Sheffield) came along as a child who was apparently adopted in the middle of a jungle at
age 7. He just sort of showed up because everyone had to pretend Tarzan
& Jane never had sex. LOL
Jil
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith wrote:
Maybe it's because I never thought much of
John Wayne's acting skills. He is one of a
number of Hollywood stars who made a good
living playing the same character in a
few dozen different roles.
I seem to recall several Hollywood 'experts'
say that JW did not really act; his accent
& mannerisms & outlook &c were pretty much
the same as the man exhibited in real life.
On 4/12/2025 1:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
How would we be with a woke version of Tarzan. He was the son ofAh, but one must admit the 1930's versions of those films starring
British peerage in the 19th century so he as British and white.
Rapunzel Rapunzel let down your fro.
Johnny Weissmuller as Tarzan and Maureen O'Sullivan as Jane were the
best! They got a little stupid later when "boy" (Johnny Sheffield) came along as a child who was apparently adopted in the middle of a jungle at
age 7. He just sort of showed up because everyone had to pretend Tarzan
& Jane never had sex. LOL
On 4/12/2025 2:59 PM, Graham wrote:
Denzel Washington has starred in Macbeth so perhaps we shouldn't
criticise Laurence Olivier playing Othello in blackface,
Alexander Hamilton was played on Broadway by Lin-Manual Miranda to huge >success. He wasn't exactly the lily white British guy who took part in
the American Revolution in the 1770's. Did anyone care about him
playing the part? I certainly didn't give a moments thought to the
color of his skin. By all accounts the play was a huge hit.
On 2025-04-12, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
(re: 'Day of the Triffids')
The 1963 film, the 1981 BBC series, or the 2009 BBC series?
The 1981 series, although I seem to recall it as one movie.
Probably I binge-watched it.
The funniest part for me was the military officer saying
how many helicopters he crashed learning how to fly one,
presumably with no instructor or simulator, &c.
On 2025-04-12 6:10 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Cindy Hamilton wrote:Back in those days planes were relatively cheap. I have been reading a
(re: 'Day of the Triffids')
The 1963 film, the 1981 BBC series, or the 2009 BBC series?
The 1981 series, although I seem to recall it as one movie.
Probably I binge-watched it.
The funniest part for me was the military officer saying
how many helicopters he crashed learning how to fly one,
presumably with no instructor or simulator, &c.
number of books about WW II and air force stuff lately and recently came >across a factoid that in WWII there were more training deaths in
training and in accidents than in combat.
On a related note.. my father did 18 1/2 operational flights.
Due to him
having had contact with thee Danish Resistance he was not allowed to go
on operational flight over Europe so he spent some time as an instructor
at a conversion unit in England and was then sent back to Canada to work
at a operational training unit. One of his best friends as killed in a >training accident there. One of the guys in this unit was Robert
Cloutier who ended up playing Relic in The Beachcombers. I remember him >staying with us for a while and how he helped my father sod the lawn in
our new house. My mother later commented on being amazed at him being
able to help because he had been in a crash and had broken half the
bones in his body and spent about a year in hospital.
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 18:01:02 -0400, Jill McQuown
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 2:59 PM, Graham wrote:
Denzel Washington has starred in Macbeth so perhaps we shouldn't
criticise Laurence Olivier playing Othello in blackface,
Alexander Hamilton was played on Broadway by Lin-Manual Miranda to huge >>success. He wasn't exactly the lily white British guy who took part in
the American Revolution in the 1770's. Did anyone care about him
playing the part? I certainly didn't give a moments thought to the
color of his skin. By all accounts the play was a huge hit.
It's a bit different with someone called Snow White. Just like it
would be strange to have a pirate called One-Legged Joe played by an
actor with two legs.
On 2025-04-12 6:10 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Cindy Hamilton wrote:Back in those days planes were relatively cheap. I have been reading a
(re: 'Day of the Triffids')
The 1963 film, the 1981 BBC series, or the 2009 BBC series?
The 1981 series, although I seem to recall it as one movie.
Probably I binge-watched it.
The funniest part for me was the military officer saying
how many helicopters he crashed learning how to fly one,
presumably with no instructor or simulator, &c.
number of books about WW II and air force stuff lately and recently came across a factoid that in WWII there were more training deaths in
training and in accidents than in combat.
On 2025-04-12 6:04 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith wrote:
Maybe it's because I never thought much of
John Wayne's acting skills. He is one of a
number of Hollywood stars who made a good
living playing the same character in a
few dozen different roles.
I seem to recall several Hollywood 'experts'
say that JW did not really act; his accent
& mannerisms & outlook &c were pretty much
the same as the man exhibited in real life.
That could well be. He seemed to be the same person in every role he
played. Tommy Lee Jones is similar. No matter what the movie or the role
in it, he is the same character.
There are lots of them out there. Then
there are some actors who are so versatile that if you don't check the credits you may not even realize who they are.
On 2025-04-12, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 18:01:02 -0400, Jill McQuown
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/12/2025 2:59 PM, Graham wrote:
Denzel Washington has starred in Macbeth so perhaps we shouldn't
criticise Laurence Olivier playing Othello in blackface,
Alexander Hamilton was played on Broadway by Lin-Manual Miranda to huge >>>success. He wasn't exactly the lily white British guy who took part in >>>the American Revolution in the 1770's. Did anyone care about him
playing the part? I certainly didn't give a moments thought to the
color of his skin. By all accounts the play was a huge hit.
It's a bit different with someone called Snow White. Just like it
would be strange to have a pirate called One-Legged Joe played by an
actor with two legs.
Can you tell me the name of a one-legged actor who has played
Long John Silver?
On 2025-04-12 6:09 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
On 4/12/2025 1:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
How would we be with a woke version of Tarzan. He was the son ofAh, but one must admit the 1930's versions of those films starring
British peerage in the 19th century so he as British and white.
Rapunzel Rapunzel let down your fro.
Johnny Weissmuller as Tarzan and Maureen O'Sullivan as Jane were the
best! They got a little stupid later when "boy" (Johnny Sheffield)
came along as a child who was apparently adopted in the middle of a
jungle at age 7. He just sort of showed up because everyone had to
pretend Tarzan & Jane never had sex. LOL
You may recall that back in the 50s married couples slept in different
beds.
I have to admit that I don't recall how Boy entered into the
situation. We are talking more than 60 years back.
On 4/12/2025 6:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2025-04-12 6:09 p.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
You may recall that back in the 50s married couples slept in different
beds.
Yet Ricky & Lucy managed to reproduce! So did Ward & June Cleaver. I wonder if they flipped a coin to decide which bed to use? We certainly wouldn't want youngsters to get any ideas! LOL
I have to admit that I don't recall how Boy entered into theWhen it comes to the Weissmuller Tarzan films, closer to 100 years. If
situation. We are talking more than 60 years back.
you get a chance to watch them again they were a lot more graphic than post-code films. In the first few Tarzan films of that era, pre-code,
both Tarzan and Jane were practically naked. As the 1940's film era
loomed, people started getting really uptight and the "code" became the
norm for what was allowed on screen.
On 2025-04-13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult
to walk away from. They don't glide very well.
Very true. Moreover, even if the guy reads the book
and resolves to keep it to running speed & jump-down
height until he has overcome the well-known universal
tendency of beginners to overcompensate stick movements,
without practical guidance or simulation, self-learning
has never been accomplished.
After initial failures of the first helicopters built
by Sikorsky, the engineers build a sort of 'jig'
instead of landing gear that only allowed a few
feet of movement in all 'degrees of freedom' so that
incipient pilots could just practice hovering.
It was also on a sort of pedestal to allow for
maximal blade excursions from horizontal.
If it were me, I'd shop around for a military model
with a cabin parachute. Auto-rotation without simulation
or guidance would seem to be more dangerous to practice
than the likelyhood it might prevent a safe landing.
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult
to walk away from. They don't glide very well.
On 2025-04-13 10:44 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult
to walk away from. They don't glide very well.
Very true. Moreover, even if the guy reads the book
and resolves to keep it to running speed & jump-down
height until he has overcome the well-known universal
tendency of beginners to overcompensate stick movements,
without practical guidance or simulation, self-learning
has never been accomplished.
My friend is a retired airline pilot with more than 30,000 hours of
flight time. He has flown hundreds of different aircraft from single
engine to 777s. He had no interest in helicopters. It didn't help that
in his early days as a commercial pilot he had a friend who was a
helicopter pilot. He once watched as his friend took off. He went up
about 20-30 feet and then suddenly dropped back down. No serious
injuries but it was a scary thing to see.
On 2025-04-13, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-13 10:44 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult
to walk away from. They don't glide very well.
Very true. Moreover, even if the guy reads the book
and resolves to keep it to running speed & jump-down
height until he has overcome the well-known universal
tendency of beginners to overcompensate stick movements,
without practical guidance or simulation, self-learning
has never been accomplished.
My friend is a retired airline pilot with more than 30,000 hours of
flight time. He has flown hundreds of different aircraft from single
engine to 777s. He had no interest in helicopters. It didn't help that
in his early days as a commercial pilot he had a friend who was a
helicopter pilot. He once watched as his friend took off. He went up
about 20-30 feet and then suddenly dropped back down. No serious
injuries but it was a scary thing to see.
Even helicopter pilots have their quirks. My husband flew with
one who didn't like to hang out at 1000 feet. He was accustomed
to installing air-conditioners on single- or two-story buildings.
On 2025-04-13 10:44 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-13, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult
to walk away from. They don't glide very well.
Very true. Moreover, even if the guy reads the book
and resolves to keep it to running speed & jump-down
height until he has overcome the well-known universal
tendency of beginners to overcompensate stick movements,
without practical guidance or simulation, self-learning
has never been accomplished.
My friend is a retired airline pilot with more than 30,000 hours of
flight time. He has flown hundreds of different aircraft from single
engine to 777s. He had no interest in helicopters. It didn't help that
in his early days as a commercial pilot he had a friend who was a
helicopter pilot. He once watched as his friend took off. He went up
about 20-30 feet and then suddenly dropped back down. No serious
injuries but it was a scary thing to see.
After initial failures of the first helicopters built
by Sikorsky, the engineers build a sort of 'jig'
instead of landing gear that only allowed a few
feet of movement in all 'degrees of freedom' so that
incipient pilots could just practice hovering.
It was also on a sort of pedestal to allow for
maximal blade excursions from horizontal.
If it were me, I'd shop around for a military model
with a cabin parachute. Auto-rotation without simulation
or guidance would seem to be more dangerous to practice
than the likelyhood it might prevent a safe landing.
One of my childhood friends went to the US in the 60s to join the army
and became a helicopter pilot. Apparently he went to Vietnam. He may
have been inspired by another neighbour who started up a helicopter
business in the late 50s when helicopters were pretty much restricted to
the military. We lived in a small subdivison that was surrounded by
farmland. On weekends they guy would land in thee field closest to his
house and take people up for rides. IIRC it was $5 a head which was
about twice as much as I made in a week from my paper route. He went on
to open up the first helicopter tour company in Niagara Falls.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:04:07 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
One of my childhood friends went to the US in the 60s to join the army
and became a helicopter pilot. Apparently he went to Vietnam. He may
have been inspired by another neighbour who started up a helicopter
business in the late 50s when helicopters were pretty much restricted to
the military. We lived in a small subdivison that was surrounded by
farmland. On weekends they guy would land in thee field closest to his
house and take people up for rides. IIRC it was $5 a head which was
about twice as much as I made in a week from my paper route. He went on
to open up the first helicopter tour company in Niagara Falls.
A helicopter is a vehicle with thousand of parts trying to rip itself
apart. I think a drone type of configuration would be much safer. I
guess we'll find out if this is true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfxXZdWr3g
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:04:07 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
If it were me, I'd shop around for a military model
with a cabin parachute. Auto-rotation without simulation
or guidance would seem to be more dangerous to practice
than the likelyhood it might prevent a safe landing.
A helicopter is a vehicle with thousand of parts trying to rip itself
apart. I think a drone type of configuration would be much safer. I
guess we'll find out if this is true.
On 4/13/2025 12:36 PM, dsi1 wrote:
A helicopter is a vehicle with thousand of parts trying to rip itself
apart. I think a drone type of configuration would be much safer. I
guess we'll find out if this is true.
The one that crashed in NY came apart. The rotor came off and video
showed it gently spinning to the ground.
On 2025-04-13 12:36 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:04:07 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
One of my childhood friends went to the US in the 60s to join the army
and became a helicopter pilot. Apparently he went to Vietnam. He may
have been inspired by another neighbour who started up a helicopter
business in the late 50s when helicopters were pretty much restricted to >>> the military. We lived in a small subdivison that was surrounded by
farmland. On weekends they guy would land in thee field closest to his
house and take people up for rides. IIRC it was $5 a head which was
about twice as much as I made in a week from my paper route. He went on
to open up the first helicopter tour company in Niagara Falls.
A helicopter is a vehicle with thousand of parts trying to rip itself
apart. I think a drone type of configuration would be much safer. I
guess we'll find out if this is true.
It doesn't take much to have something go terribly wrong in those
things. They require a lot of maintenance. I just checked out the cost
per hour at a helicopter training school and it runs from $620- 950 per
hour, about 5-6 times the cost of flying a single engine plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfxXZdWr3g
What do you suppose the chances are that if one of those many motors
craps out mid flight the others will automatically compensate?
On 2025-04-13 2:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 4/13/2025 12:36 PM, dsi1 wrote:
A helicopter is a vehicle with thousand of parts trying to rip itself
apart. I think a drone type of configuration would be much safer. I
guess we'll find out if this is true.
The one that crashed in NY came apart. The rotor came off and video
showed it gently spinning to the ground.
I didn't realize they had video of the rotor coming off but came across
it. Holy cow. It was just moving along and all of a sudden the rotor separated from the helicopter and the body immediately plunged into the water. It hit the river pretty hard and then the rotor came down. I
can't imagine anyone surviving the initial impact so I would expect that
they were dead before they would have drowned.
The rotor hit the tail boom and severed it. Losing the rotor or the tail
boom is pretty much instant death.
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 18:44:57 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
I didn't realize they had video of the rotor coming off but came across
it. Holy cow. It was just moving along and all of a sudden the rotor
separated from the helicopter and the body immediately plunged into the
water. It hit the river pretty hard and then the rotor came down. I
can't imagine anyone surviving the initial impact so I would expect that
they were dead before they would have drowned.
The rotor hit the tail boom and severed it. Losing the rotor or the tail
boom is pretty much instant death.
(Ok, I liked the 2001-2003 remake of the Lord of the Rings better
than the 1978 Ralph Bakshi animation. I had forgotten about Bakshi.)
On 4/12/2025 10:10 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <vtc2bh$2lmvb$[email protected]>, chamilton5280Who demands this?
@invalid.com says...
On 2025-04-11, Bruce <[email protected]d> wrote:
I'd call that decent or honest, not woke. Woke tends to get hysterical >>>> and demand that an actress of colour plays Snow White in a movie.
Is it woke if I don't care what color actress plays Snow White in
a movie?
If you were truly woke you wouldn't care if Snow-white
was played by an elderly man called Rosepink whose
preferred pronouns don't match his underpants.
Janet UK
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
Jill McQuown wrote:
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
On 2025-04-12, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-12 6:10 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Cindy Hamilton wrote:Back in those days planes were relatively cheap. I have been reading a
(re: 'Day of the Triffids')
The 1963 film, the 1981 BBC series, or the 2009 BBC series?
The 1981 series, although I seem to recall it as one movie.
Probably I binge-watched it.
The funniest part for me was the military officer saying
how many helicopters he crashed learning how to fly one,
presumably with no instructor or simulator, &c.
number of books about WW II and air force stuff lately and recently came
across a factoid that in WWII there were more training deaths in
training and in accidents than in combat.
Helicopter accidents are notoriously difficult to walk away from.
They don't glide very well.
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:...
...most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
On 2025-04-14 11:59 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
For me "woke" is political correctness and the acknowledgement of social
and racial injustice with a whole lot of virtue signalling thrown in to
take it to an annoying extreme. The word alone is annoying. It is a play
on Black street slang, a case of bad grammar that reinforces negative >stereotypes.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:59:30 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
The underlying principles of "woke" are good, but it often tends to
become hysterical and over the top.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 18:10:38 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:59:30 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct". >>>
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
The underlying principles of "woke" are good, but it often tends to
become hysterical and over the top.
"Woke" mostly triggers people - it is best to avoid using it.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:59:30 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
The underlying principles of "woke" are good, but it often tends to
become hysterical and over the top.
On 2025-04-14 11:59 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 2:30:38 +0000, Graham wrote:
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
The problem is that people can't agree on what "woke" means. People
can't agree on what "critical race theory" means either. People sure
like to use the words though. I know what woke means to me but that
don't count for shit if all ya'alls ain't on-board.
For me "woke" is political correctness and the acknowledgement of social
and racial injustice with a whole lot of virtue signalling thrown in to
take it to an annoying extreme. The word alone is annoying. It is a play
on Black street slang, a case of bad grammar that reinforces negative stereotypes.
That sounds to be about as good as any other. I think a lot of people
would agree with you on that.
"Woke" mostly triggers people - it is best to avoid using it.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
For me "woke" is political correctness and the acknowledgement of social
and racial injustice with a whole lot of virtue signalling thrown in to
take it to an annoying extreme. The word alone is annoying. It is a play
on Black street slang, a case of bad grammar that reinforces negative
stereotypes.
yes, those are also right wing oriented catch phrases
and they are not acknowledging those concepts at all they
are attempting to sideline them.
virtue signalling is yet another dumb phrase. social and
racial justice are important things, to try to sideline
those to me just puts a person on the level of someone who
prefers to stick their head in the sand.
there are legitimate reasons to talk about racial justice
in a society where certain minorities are often on the bad
end of over zealous police enforcement. social justice
looks a bit further into how racial bigotry has put certain
groups at disadvantages in various ways which are also
worth dealing with and acknowledging.
another bit of stupidity was the use of the abbreviation
SJW.
For me "woke" is political correctness and the acknowledgement of social
and racial injustice with a whole lot of virtue signalling thrown in to
take it to an annoying extreme. The word alone is annoying. It is a play
on Black street slang, a case of bad grammar that reinforces negative stereotypes.
Show up for rallies to support migrant
workers so you can hire cheap help.
Dave Smith wrote:
...
For me "woke" is political correctness and the acknowledgement of social
and racial injustice with a whole lot of virtue signalling thrown in to
take it to an annoying extreme. The word alone is annoying. It is a play
on Black street slang, a case of bad grammar that reinforces negative
stereotypes.
yes, those are also right wing oriented catch phrases
and they are not acknowledging those concepts at all they
are attempting to sideline them.
virtue signalling is yet another dumb phrase.
racial justice are important things, to try to sideline
those to me just puts a person on the level of someone who
prefers to stick their head in the sand.
there are legitimate reasons to talk about racial justice
in a society where certain minorities are often on the bad
end of over zealous police enforcement. social justice
looks a bit further into how racial bigotry has put certain
groups at disadvantages in various ways which are also
worth dealing with and acknowledging.
another bit of stupidity was the use of the abbreviation
SJW.
On 2025-04-13 3:50 p.m., songbird wrote:
Considering 'Snow White' was written by The Brothers Grimm published in
1812 in Germany, one would not expect anything other than white people
to be featured, not even in the 1960's Disney cartoon film. No one
cares if it's "woke". It's a classic fairy tale.
most people who use the word "woke" in the recent hysteria
laden ways are not that bright - likely MAGA or sycophants.
songbird
It seems to have, in effect, become and replaced "politically correct".
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