60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak >barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 21:14:29 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak
barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
I thought that for a whiskey to be called bourbon, it has to be made
from America's favourite food item: genetically modified corn.
On 4/6/2025 9:19 PM, Bruce wrote:
I thought that for a whiskey to be called bourbon, it has to be made
from America's favourite food item: genetically modified corn.
Yes, if it has residue of Roundup it becomes premium blend.
What makes bourbon different than whiskey?
Bourbon is a specific type of whiskey that must be made in the United
States with at least 51% corn in its mash, and aged in new, charred oak >barrels, while whiskey is a broader category of distilled spirits made
from fermented grains, which can be made anywhere and with various grain
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 22:14:14 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
On 4/6/2025 9:19 PM, Bruce wrote:
I thought that for a whiskey to be called bourbon, it has to be made
from America's favourite food item: genetically modified corn.
Yes, if it has residue of Roundup it becomes premium blend.
What makes bourbon different than whiskey?
Bourbon is a specific type of whiskey that must be made in the United
States with at least 51% corn in its mash, and aged in new, charred oak
barrels, while whiskey is a broader category of distilled spirits made >>from fermented grains, which can be made anywhere and with various grain
"While specific details about the corn used in Whistle Pig bourbon
aren't explicitly provided, their dedication to non-GMO and
sustainable farming suggests a preference for non-GMO ingredients."
Either way, I'd have liked to try it but it's a bit too $$$ here.
Bourbon is a specific type of whiskey that must be:
- made in the United States
- at least 51% corn in its mash
- aged in new, charred oak barrels
Whiskey is a broader category of distilled
spirits made from fermented grains, which can be
- made anywhere
- with various grain
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
On 2025-04-07, Ed P wrote:
(Re-formatted somewhat to emphasize algorithmic structure - MD)
Bourbon is a specific type of whiskey that must be:
- made in the United States
- at least 51% corn in its mash
- aged in new, charred oak barrels
Whiskey is a broader category of distilled
spirits made from fermented grains, which can be
- made anywhere
- with various grain
And then aged in new or used charred or not barrels of any wood.
I am surprised bourboners allow 49% other grains.
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak
barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak
barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
On 2025-04-06 9:14 p.m., Ed P wrote:
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse
that just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
Used wine barrels are in high demand around here. The wineries reuse the barrels a few times but then get rid of them after about 10 years. They
might be used as display piece on their own or disassembled and used for cutesue handy crafts and such. A lot of them end up being cut in half
and used as planters.
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
I had had Jack Daniels a few times and was not impressed. I understand
that despite being marketed as a Tennessee whiskey it is technically a bourbon. A couple years ago I tried Makers Mark. While apparently not
the very best bourbon, it is up there. It was damned good.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 16:21:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
Even though it's made here and made in a dry county no
I had had Jack Daniels a few times and was not impressed. I understand
that despite being marketed as a Tennessee whiskey it is technically a
bourbon. A couple years ago I tried Makers Mark. While apparently not
the very best bourbon, it is up there. It was damned good.
less, I'm not fond of Jack Daniels. But the tour was
quite interesting.
They'll happily sell you a barrel of whiskey, but it
is bottled in half pint bottles. 250 if memory is
correct, and the empty barrel is then shipped to you
along with the bottles.
--
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 16:01:09 +0000, flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak >>> barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a >>> wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
My younger brother drinks Scotch. He also likes to smoke fine cigars.
He's a connoisseur of fine things. He also likes to run many miles in
the mornings and evenings. He's even raised show dogs. He's a rich guy
and a lot different from my brother and I. I wouldn't like to be him -
it's way too hard of a life.
On 4/7/2025 6:11 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
I'm not a fan of Jack Daniels, but, Gentleman Jack is so much better.Even though it's made here and made in a dry county no
less, I'm not fond of Jack Daniels. But the tour was
quite interesting.
They'll happily sell you a barrel of whiskey, but it
is bottled in half pint bottles. 250 if memory is
correct, and the empty barrel is then shipped to you
along with the bottles.
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:01:09 GMT, flood of sins <[email protected]> wrote:
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a >>> wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Scotch isn't whiskey?
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 16:21:38 +0000, Dave Smith wrote:
Even though it's made here and made in a dry county no
I had had Jack Daniels a few times and was not impressed. I understand
that despite being marketed as a Tennessee whiskey it is technically a
bourbon.� A couple years ago I tried Makers Mark.� While apparently not
the very best bourbon, it is up there. It was damned good.
less, I'm not fond of Jack Daniels.� But the tour was
quite interesting.
They'll happily sell you a barrel of whiskey, but it
is bottled in half pint bottles. 250 if memory is
correct, and the empty barrel is then shipped to you
along with the bottles.
On 4/7/2025 11:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:01:09 GMT, flood of sins <[email protected]> wrote:Scotch is whisky, not whiskey.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months >>>> to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that >>>> just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm
sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Scotch isn't whiskey?
Most street bums prefer the half pint bottles.
They are easier to hide [...] And it's just
the right amount for a single snort.
On 2025-04-07 12:01 p.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
IIRC you are in the Buffalo area. There are a couple good rye whiskies produced in Niagara. One is Dillons in Beamsville and Forty Creek in
Grimsby. Or... you can get them at the LCBO.
On 2025-04-07, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-04-07 12:01 p.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
IIRC you are in the Buffalo area. There are a couple good rye whiskies
produced in Niagara. One is Dillons in Beamsville and Forty Creek in
Grimsby. Or... you can get them at the LCBO.
That's a most excellent thought that never occurred to me. My
wife enjoys craft beer and and has had everything she can find
from the area. When I'm buying wine I _always_ go to the New York
wines shelves in the liquor stores. For some reason, it never
dawned on me to look for local craft whisky. Perhaps because
my subconscious is convinced American whisky is corn whisky and
i don't like it. But local rye and malt (barley) whisky sounds
like a lovely rabbit hole to tumble down in. Thanks!
On 2025-04-07 12:01 p.m., flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made
and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak >>> barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months
to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that
just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a >>> wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
I had had Jack Daniels a few times and was not impressed. I understand
that despite being marketed as a Tennessee whiskey it is technically a bourbon. A couple years ago I tried Makers Mark. While apparently not
the very best bourbon, it is up there. It was damned good.
I like Scotch and Irish whiskey but I have never been crazy about rye. I don't drink it straight, on the rocks, with water, soda, coke or ginger
ale but I love Manhattans. Two shots of rye, one shot of sweet vermouth,
a drop of Agnostura Bitters, a twist of lemon and a maraschino cherry
with a couple rocks. It is the nectar of the gods.
Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 17:02:51 +0000, [email protected] (dsi1) wrote:
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 16:01:09 +0000, flood of sins wrote:
On 2025-04-07, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
60 Minutes tonight had a segment on bourbon barrels, how they are made >>>>> and used. Last year, Kentucky distillers bought 3.2 million charred oak >>>>> barrels.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months >>>>> to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China >>>>> where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that >>>>> just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm sipping a >>>>> wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Whistle Pig makes a great rye whisky. my fav is Crown Royal. go
Canada!
My younger brother drinks Scotch. He also likes to smoke fine cigars.
Honey, I'm not having a good time. What is it called when a young punk >suffers alcohol poisoning at age 16 and afterwards can't drink anything >stronger than 32 proof straight?
I don't believe in fine cigars. They are all equally bad.
But you, you are a great person!
I drink whisky neat. sometimes with a splash of water to release
more flavors. good rum I like neat too, like Mount Gay XO for
example. I prefer Scotch peat bombs. Ardbeg. Lagavulin. Laphroaig.
Talisker. Highland Park. those are always readily available. if
the first sip tastes like licking a charcoal log, it's the right
stuff. :)
On 4/8/2025 4:32 PM, flood of sins wrote:
I drink whisky neat. sometimes with a splash of water to release
more flavors. good rum I like neat too, like Mount Gay XO for
example. I prefer Scotch peat bombs. Ardbeg. Lagavulin. Laphroaig.
Talisker. Highland Park. those are always readily available. if
the first sip tastes like licking a charcoal log, it's the right
stuff. :)
Highland Park? I don't find it at all peaty.
On 4/7/2025 11:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 16:01:09 GMT, flood of sins <[email protected]> wrote:Scotch is whisky, not whiskey.
For a whisky to be called bourbon, it must be aged in a charred oak
barrel. It gives the spirits color and flavor and is aged from months >>>> to many years. The bourbon is emptied, but the barrel lives on.
The used barrels are shipped around the world to Europe, India, China
where they are used to age other spirits. They showed a warehouse that >>>> just takes them in and re-ships by the thousands.
The episode had some influence on me. As I'm typing this, I'm
sipping a
wee bit of 7 year old Whistle Pig bourbon.
i don't like Bourbon at all. when i started drinking whisky i
tried many different brands and don't like any of them. i love
Scotch and i do like several Scotches that spent some time aging
in used Bourbon barrels though.
Scotch isn't whiskey?
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