• Gravity is increasing

    From Ed P@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 15:32:03 2025
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 16:29:55 2025
    On 2025-03-22 3:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.


    I have been witnessing the same thing. Perhaps we should apply for a
    research grant and investigate it.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 16:37:04 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.� Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.� Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.� In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:� The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?� Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    Nah, it's probably just all the accumulated lead in our brains from the
    tainted environment. We are therefore heavier, but we perceive it as
    increased gravity.

    Besides, if the government did something in the last 70 years, by god,
    you can be damn sure that trump and/or his pet muskrat would have
    reversed it by now.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 17:15:15 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    one of the tests for "How ya doin?" should be an unassisted
    (by hands) getting up from a chair and if you're losing that
    perhaps you should be more active (if possible).


    songbird

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 22 22:18:05 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    Nah, it's probably just all the accumulated lead in our brains from the tainted environment. We are therefore heavier, but we perceive it as increased gravity.

    Besides, if the government did something in the last 70 years, by god,
    you can be damn sure that trump and/or his pet muskrat would have
    reversed it by now.


    Fuckin' 'A', Sire Hank... that "reversal" is happening RIGHT NOW, as we speak...

    THE ELON will "announce" it Monday at the White House Oval Office "press briefing'...!!!

    We are BLESSED...!!!

    l-D

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 22 18:43:24 2025
    On 3/22/2025 4:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 3:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.


    I have been witnessing the same thing. Perhaps we should apply for a
    research grant and investigate it.

    Must be the Russians. Putin does not want us to get up and be productive.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 09:45:00 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:43:24 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 4:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 3:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.


    I have been witnessing the same thing. Perhaps we should apply for a
    research grant and investigate it.

    Must be the Russians. Putin does not want us to get up and be productive.

    Isn't Putin your new ally?

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 22:57:40 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms. But sitting
    on the floor?? No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sat Mar 22 19:57:11 2025
    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

    --

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Mar 22 20:00:15 2025
    On 3/22/2025 5:15 PM, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    one of the tests for "How ya doin?" should be an unassisted
    (by hands) getting up from a chair and if you're losing that
    perhaps you should be more active (if possible).


    songbird

    I used to enjoy walking. Now, going across the street to the mailbox is
    a long walk. Worn knees and arthritis take a toll.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 22 19:14:06 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:43:24 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 4:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 3:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>> few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.


    I have been witnessing the same thing. Perhaps we should apply for a
    research grant and investigate it.

    Must be the Russians. Putin does not want us to get up and be productive.

    Isn't Putin your new ally?


    Putin is our greatest friend. Trump has dearly loved him for many years.
    If only he would move here, I'm sure he would be appointed to a very
    powerful position.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 19:16:36 2025
    Ed P wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 5:15 PM, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.� Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.� Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.� In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:� The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?� Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    �� getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    �� one of the tests for "How ya doin?" should be an unassisted
    (by hands) getting up from a chair and if you're losing that
    perhaps you should be more active (if possible).


    �� songbird

    I used to enjoy walking.� Now, going across the street to the mailbox is
    a long walk.� Worn knees and arthritis take a toll.

    Do you have rheumatoid?

    If so, there are some newer drugs that help a little bit.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 20:27:37 2025
    On 2025-03-22 7:57 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

    --

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor.  Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around.  Not going to try.

    With age comes wisdom. Over the last few years I have learned not to get
    down on the floor or the ground without a plan to get back up.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 11:29:57 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:11 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

    --

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.

    Because you have bad knees, right?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From gm@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sun Mar 23 00:33:36 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Ed P wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 5:15 PM, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>> few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

       getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

       one of the tests for "How ya doin?" should be an unassisted
    (by hands) getting up from a chair and if you're losing that
    perhaps you should be more active (if possible).


       songbird

    I used to enjoy walking.  Now, going across the street to the mailbox is
    a long walk.  Worn knees and arthritis take a toll.

    Do you have rheumatoid?

    If so, there are some newer drugs that help a little bit.


    Fentanyl...!!!

    8-D

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    GM

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Mar 22 20:49:22 2025
    On 3/22/2025 8:29 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:11 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>> few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

    --

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.

    Because you have bad knees, right?


    Yes, that is a big factor. I limit myself on ladders too. With age
    comes some risk so I try to avoid it.

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 21:33:02 2025
    On 2025-03-22 8:49 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    Because you have bad knees, right?


    Yes, that is a big factor.  I limit myself on ladders too.  With age
    comes some risk so I try to avoid it.

    Do you find if you are hiking or doing some other activity that involves climbing that you have to think about which foot you are going to lead
    with. I find myself torn between leading with the good one and leaving
    the bad knee to bear the wait or if I should lead with the bad one and
    hope is remains stable when I take the weight off the good one.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sat Mar 22 22:13:58 2025
    On 3/22/2025 9:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 8:49 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    Because you have bad knees, right?


    Yes, that is a big factor.  I limit myself on ladders too.  With age
    comes some risk so I try to avoid it.

    Do you find if you are hiking or doing some other activity that involves climbing that you have to think about which foot you are going to lead
    with. I find myself torn between leading with the good one and leaving
    the bad knee to bear the wait or if I should lead with the bad one and
    hope is remains stable when I take the weight off the good one.

    No, no different. Both are about equal and I'm left foot dominant so
    just go as usual.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Mar 23 12:58:49 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 21:33:02 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-22 8:49 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    Because you have bad knees, right?

    No Dave, Ed didn't write that.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 02:14:53 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 23:57:11 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.


    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    I swear I replied to you awhile ago, but what happened
    to my post, I haven't a clue.

    Cleaning the cat poop box everyday was a bit of a
    challenge however taking advantage of a pre-Black
    Friday sale I bought a self-cleaning litterbox.
    Great decision! And Amazon doesn't always have the
    best price.

    --

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sat Mar 22 21:54:01 2025
    On 2025-03-22 1:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    To guard against one of the serious side effects of gravity, ALWAYS
    hold on to stair rails!

    "With mirth and laughter let old wrinkles come. And let my liver rather
    heat with wine than my heart cool with mortifying groans."
    The Bard

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 23 09:10:16 2025
    On 2025-03-22, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean Pączki, which is already plural?

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 09:12:52 2025
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.

    --

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.

    I'm just a kid. I knelt down in the grocery store a couple of days
    ago, to get toothpaste from the back of the bottom shelf. If I'd
    known we still had an unopened tube at home, I might have deferred
    my purchase another week.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 23 09:14:36 2025
    On 2025-03-23, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 1:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    To guard against one of the serious side effects of gravity, ALWAYS
    hold on to stair rails!

    Could be tricky if you're carrying a big box on the stairs.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 23 11:44:09 2025
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    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025, Graham wrote:

    On 2025-03-22 1:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar experiences >> recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a few years ago.  >> Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over the >> past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    To guard against one of the serious side effects of gravity, ALWAYS
    hold on to stair rails!

    Pro tip! Be careful when you stack chairs on top of each other to reach
    higher. I am always veru careful when I stack two or three chairs to reach
    what ever I need to reach!

    "With mirth and laughter let old wrinkles come. And let my liver rather heat with wine than my heart cool with mortifying groans."
    The Bard


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  • From D@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Mar 23 11:43:17 2025
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    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 23:57:11 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 6:57 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:32:03 +0000, Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>> few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.


    I'm still able to arise from a chair without pushing
    myself out of it using the chair arms.  But sitting
    on the floor??  No more springing up like in my
    youth: it takes some finessing to get my carcass
    up.


    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    I swear I replied to you awhile ago, but what happened
    to my post, I haven't a clue.

    Cleaning the cat poop box everyday was a bit of a

    This is very interesting! Could you please tell us more about cleaning the
    poop box? It's a fascinating activity!

    challenge however taking advantage of a pre-Black
    Friday sale I bought a self-cleaning litterbox.
    Great decision! And Amazon doesn't always have the
    best price.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 11:40:50 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025, gm wrote:

    Hank Rogers wrote:

    Ed P wrote:
    On 3/22/2025 5:15 PM, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>>> few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>>>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space >>>>> Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

       getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

       one of the tests for "How ya doin?" should be an unassisted
    (by hands) getting up from a chair and if you're losing that
    perhaps you should be more active (if possible).


       songbird

    I used to enjoy walking.  Now, going across the street to the mailbox is >>> a long walk.  Worn knees and arthritis take a toll.

    Do you have rheumatoid?

    If so, there are some newer drugs that help a little bit.


    Fentanyl...!!!


    Hexolate!

    8-D

    --
    GM

    --


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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to ItsJoanNotJoAnn on Sun Mar 23 08:57:38 2025
    On 3/22/2025 10:14 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
    Cleaning the cat poop box everyday was a bit of a
    challenge however taking advantage of a pre-Black
    Friday sale I bought a self-cleaning litterbox.
    Great decision!  And Amazon doesn't always have the
    best price.

    Is it noisy? I think one of those self-cleaning litter boxes would
    scare the crap (pun intended) out of my 8 month old kitten, Cleo. Is
    the one you got a covered litter box? I doubt she'd be comfortable
    using one of those. She shies away from enclosed spaces.

    I do agree, Amazon doesn't always have the best price. I see an
    automatic uncovered litter box on chewy.com for $170 but it seems to
    require buying disposable litter trays containing crystal-type cat
    litter. Seems like constantly buying new litter trays would wind up
    being expensive. Since I'll likely be out of work come July, that's
    something I have to take into consideration. That, and the fact that
    the litter box is in the (spacious) water closet area of the bathroom
    (tub & toilet) but there are no electrical outlets in that space.

    Jill

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 23 08:23:27 2025
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean Pączki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).


    songbird (i would think that "yer" would also have given a
    clue... (pooshing yet more keys

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 23 12:59:23 2025
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>> few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean Pączki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    It doesn't do to let standards slip.

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

    It's easy to look up. Google "Polish donut".

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Mar 23 09:16:38 2025
    On 3/22/2025 11:54 PM, Graham wrote:
    To guard against one of the serious side effects of gravity, ALWAYS
    hold on to stair rails!

    I work on the 2nd floor of a two-story building. I'm 64 and I always
    hold onto the stair rails going up and down those stairs. I wear
    bifocals and because of that cannot easily gauge the steps without
    looking straight down. Don't need a misstep! Thank goodness my house
    is a single level.

    Jill

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 23 13:19:43 2025
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>> few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean P�?czki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Janet UK

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 23 09:49:47 2025
    On 2025-03-23 9:19 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean PÄ?czki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that it
    was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood the
    concept of irony.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 24 01:27:22 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:49:47 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-23 9:19 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean PÄ?czki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.

    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that it
    was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood the >concept of irony.

    Ah, you're still going on about her. As predicted.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Sun Mar 23 10:29:48 2025
    On 3/23/2025 5:14 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-23, Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-03-22 1:32 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently.  Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago.  Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house.  In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion:  The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be?  Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    To guard against one of the serious side effects of gravity, ALWAYS
    hold on to stair rails!

    Could be tricky if you're carrying a big box on the stairs.

    A few years ago I'd agree with you. Now, the big box would remain where
    it is, or I'd take the contents piece by piece.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 14:55:33 2025
    On 2025-03-23, Ed P wrote:

    I limit myself on ladders too. With age comes some risk

    Tell me about it. My last ladder adventure was not too high,
    but the little 'feet' I had built at the end to allow the
    ladder to rest on the roof shingles had collapsed on acscension
    in a pecuriar manner such that my weight on the ladder
    twisted my ankles forcing me into a cross-legged sit
    between a pair of rungs. I slowly removed my gloves one
    at a time to maximize friction, but there was clearly
    insufficient 'purchase' for me to lift my rear high enough
    to disentangle my feet. The ladder feet had come loose of
    the blocking bricks, it was (is) a quite steep (45 degree)
    roof, and I could think of no way to extricate myself
    without risking a severe fall into the brick flowerbox below.

    Slowly I reached for my cell phone to call my wife or 911,
    when I noticed that my across-street neighbour had seen me
    and was crossing the street to help me disentangle.

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 23 11:23:28 2025
    On 3/23/2025 9:19 AM, Janet wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Ed P wrote:
    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a >>>>> few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over >>>>> the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space >>>>> Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.

    getting older sucks, but really it could just be that
    you're sitting on yer butt too much and drinking too many
    brews or eating too many pooshkeys.

    "Pooshkeys"? Do you mean PÄ?czki, which is already plural?

    pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
    theme song)

    if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Janet UK

    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly
    to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem
    with Usenet accepting caps.

    Jill

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  • From Jill McQuown@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 23 11:24:26 2025
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 9:19 a.m., Janet wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    "Pooshkeys"?  Do you mean PÄ?czki, which is already plural?

       pedant, pedant, pedant ... (etc. sung to the Pink Panther
       theme song)

       if i'm obviously spelling something wrong, you can be pretty
    sure i don't care how to spell it right (or i would have).

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that it
    was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood the concept of irony.

    Now, now! Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL

    Jill

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sun Mar 23 12:40:21 2025
    On 2025-03-23 10:55 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-23, Ed P wrote:

    I limit myself on ladders too. With age comes some risk

    Tell me about it. My last ladder adventure was not too high,
    but the little 'feet' I had built at the end to allow the
    ladder to rest on the roof shingles had collapsed on acscension
    in a pecuriar manner such that my weight on the ladder
    twisted my ankles forcing me into a cross-legged sit
    between a pair of rungs. I slowly removed my gloves one
    at a time to maximize friction, but there was clearly
    insufficient 'purchase' for me to lift my rear high enough
    to disentangle my feet. The ladder feet had come loose of
    the blocking bricks, it was (is) a quite steep (45 degree)
    roof, and I could think of no way to extricate myself
    without risking a severe fall into the brick flowerbox below.

    Slowly I reached for my cell phone to call my wife or 911,
    when I noticed that my across-street neighbour had seen me
    and was crossing the street to help me disentangle.


    I have got away with a lot of stupid ladder stunts over the years but I
    had one nasty one. I had to get to the roof at the front of the house
    and the easiest way was to put the ladder against the wall and climb up
    to the overhang at the front corner, walk along that to the steeper
    pitch roof at the front. I had the ladder leaning at what I thought was
    a proper angle and stomped on the bottom rung to press it into the soil
    a bit. It seemed firm enough.

    I climbed up to the overhang and was stepping across from the latter to
    the slope when the bottom of the ladder kicked out. I went down about 8
    feet. One leg slipped between the rungs so I landed on that foot but
    when the rest of me landed on the ladder it drove a rung into my shin. I thought my leg was broken. I spent hours waiting in a busy ER before I
    got an Xray. No breaks, but it was painful so I got some pain medication.

    I avoid going up ladders without help these days

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Mar 23 12:42:21 2025
    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that
    it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood
    the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL



    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still
    lurking.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Mar 23 12:46:22 2025
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    ...
    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly
    to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem
    with Usenet accepting caps.

    and here comes the bee up the bonnet folk.

    really, like, i don't take usenet that seriously. it is
    light entertainment and something i do when i have time in
    between other things.

    sometimes when writing poetry you take different paths to
    see where they lead.

    creative writing in general can poosh some boundaries.

    i'm also fairly literate but i don't care to be formal.
    i prefer play, especially when i'm not being paid.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Janet on Sun Mar 23 12:43:05 2025
    Janet wrote:
    ...
    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Janet UK

    you never have fun with language?

    i do.


    songbird

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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@21:1/5 to Jill McQuown on Sun Mar 23 18:43:36 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 12:57:38 +0000, Jill McQuown wrote:

    On 3/22/2025 10:14 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:

    Cleaning the cat poop box everyday was a bit of a
    challenge however taking advantage of a pre-Black
    Friday sale I bought a self-cleaning litterbox.
    Great decision!  And Amazon doesn't always have the
    best price.

    Is it noisy? I think one of those self-cleaning litter boxes would
    scare the crap (pun intended) out of my 8 month old kitten, Cleo. Is
    the one you got a covered litter box? I doubt she'd be comfortable
    using one of those. She shies away from enclosed spaces.


    Here's the one I bought and it's even cheaper now! https://www.walmart.com/ip/Muhub-81L-Self-Cleaning-Litter-Box-for-Multiple-Cats-App-Control-Support-Odor-Removal-White/5382307137?

    It's very quiet and sometimes I'll be in the back of the
    house where it's located, and it will start its' cleaning
    cycle and I'm thinking "what's that noise?" and it dawns
    on me it's the box doing its' thing. The noise is like
    a low hum.

    Pepper was quite curious but quite wary of it as well.
    There was trouble getting her to urinate in it, grrrrrr.
    But I bought a canister of Fresh Step cat litter attractant
    and sprinkled it on her fresh litter and there has been
    no further out of the box weeing. It's wi-fi connected
    and I've got it set to clean 15 minutes after she leaves
    the box. That gives the litter time to clump around
    whatever she's left in the box.

    The only downside is you must set these boxes up on a
    cell phone and not a computer. I don't get a notice
    of anything that needs to be done, just that I have
    to check into the site if it needs more litter or
    the bag needs to be change. But I don't wait for
    the notice, I just add and change on a regular basis.

    I do agree, Amazon doesn't always have the best price. I see an
    automatic uncovered litter box on chewy.com for $170 but it seems to
    require buying disposable litter trays containing crystal-type cat
    litter. Seems like constantly buying new litter trays would wind up
    being expensive. Since I'll likely be out of work come July, that's something I have to take into consideration. That, and the fact that
    the litter box is in the (spacious) water closet area of the bathroom
    (tub & toilet) but there are no electrical outlets in that space.

    Jill


    Besides the litter, the only thing this box takes are the
    disposable plastic bags. They're reasonably priced and
    I have to put a new bag in the tray about every 10 days.
    If I had another cat, I'd be replacing the bags more
    often.

    The same litter box that I supplied the link above is
    also sold on Amazon, but under a different name. But
    it's the EXACT same box. I found out any company that
    makes these different boxes will allow you to put your
    own company name on them when you order at least a
    thousand to sell.

    --

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 24 05:47:50 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 12:42:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.

    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that
    it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood
    the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL

    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still >lurking.

    He has to pay his Internet provider a cent per word that he posts, so
    he doesn't say much anymore.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Cindy Hamilton@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Mar 23 18:57:07 2025
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Janet wrote:
    ...
    Either you're literate, or not.

    Thanks for confirming.

    Janet UK

    you never have fun with language?

    Everybody's idea of fun is different.

    --
    Cindy Hamilton

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Gary on Mon Mar 24 06:55:41 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 15:53:37 -0400, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that
    it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood
    the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL



    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still
    lurking.


    Julie's birthday is June 26, Dave.

    That's $0.06.

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Gary@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 23 15:53:37 2025
    On 3/23/2025 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that
    it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood
    the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL



    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still lurking.


    Julie's birthday is June 26, Dave.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Mar 23 17:21:23 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 12:42:21 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.

    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that
    it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood
    the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL

    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still
    lurking.

    He has to pay his Internet provider a cent per word that he posts, so
    he doesn't say much anymore.


    My god! I hope they don't charging you a cent for every ass you sniff,
    Master!

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Mar 23 17:24:40 2025
    Bruce wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 15:53:37 -0400, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 11:24 a.m., Jill McQuown wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

        Either you're literate, or not.
        Thanks for confirming.


    LOL thinking of a former poster who had claimed to be an author but
    didn't know the meaning of the word "ignorant". She also argued that >>>>> it was not important for her to know that. I wonder if she understood >>>>> the concept of irony.

    Now, now!  Don't you dare bring up Julie! LOL



    I thought I would do that for the benefit of Gary in case he is still
    lurking.


    Julie's birthday is June 26, Dave.

    That's $0.06.


    And $.02 cents added to your bill master, since you sniffed both dave's
    and gary's asses!

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 23:00:25 2025
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.

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  • From Leonard Blaisdell@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 22:44:26 2025
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.


    I testify!

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Mar 23 19:38:46 2025
    On 2025-03-23 7:00 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.

    That is an American thing, which is ironic considering the rhetoric
    about the US being the land of the free and all that crap. American cops
    are assholes. Sadly, I can't really lay all the blame on them because
    of the resistance they have to deal with.... and the violence they are subjected to. I dealt with a lot of Americans on the job and could not
    believe the number of American drivers who would want to shake my hand
    and thank me for treating them so well.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 23 19:40:02 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 7:00 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor.� Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around.� Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.

    That is an American thing, which is ironic considering the rhetoric
    about the US being the land of the free and all that crap. American cops
    are assholes.� Sadly, I can't really lay all the blame on them because
    of the resistance they have to deal with.... and the violence they are subjected to. I dealt with a lot of Americans on the job and could not believe the number of American drivers who would want to shake my hand
    and thank me for treating them so well.


    All of us are so very proud of you, officer Dave!

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Sun Mar 23 21:37:02 2025
    On 3/23/2025 7:00 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.


    Yes officer, I will as soon as you bring over a walker to hold onto.
    Knee pad would help too.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Sun Mar 23 21:45:01 2025
    On 3/23/2025 7:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 7:00 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor.  Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around.  Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.

    That is an American thing, which is ironic considering the rhetoric
    about the US being the land of the free and all that crap. American cops
    are assholes.  Sadly, I can't really lay all the blame on them because
    of the resistance they have to deal with.... and the violence they are subjected to. I dealt with a lot of Americans on the job and could not believe the number of American drivers who would want to shake my hand
    and thank me for treating them so well.


    It is the chicken/egg thing. What asshole came first, cop or criminal?
    I watch On Patrol Live and see how some people handle themselves and
    make matters far worse for no reason.

    IIRC, you worked in traffic/trucking enforcement. Have you had people
    pull a gun on you? Domestic abuse call where the ex shot the new
    boyfriend? On OPL, some simple traffic stops that may result in a
    warning turn into a major confrontation by an arrogant offender.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 24 12:54:54 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 21:37:02 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/23/2025 7:00 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.


    Yes officer, I will as soon as you bring over a walker to hold onto.
    Knee pad would help too.

    If a police officer can tell that it's going to take you ten minutes
    to pull a gun out of your glove compartment, don't they relax a bit?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Ed P on Sun Mar 23 22:13:38 2025
    On 2025-03-23 9:45 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 3/23/2025 7:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2025-03-23 7:00 p.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get >>> on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.

    That is an American thing, which is ironic considering the rhetoric
    about the US being the land of the free and all that crap. American
    cops are assholes.  Sadly, I can't really lay all the blame on them
    because of the resistance they have to deal with.... and the violence
    they are subjected to. I dealt with a lot of Americans on the job and
    could not believe the number of American drivers who would want to
    shake my hand and thank me for treating them so well.


    It is the chicken/egg thing.  What asshole came first, cop or criminal?
    I watch On Patrol Live and see how some people handle themselves and
    make matters far worse for no reason.

    IIRC, you worked in traffic/trucking enforcement.  Have you had people
    pull a gun on you?  Domestic abuse call where the ex shot the new boyfriend?  On OPL, some simple traffic stops that may result in a
    warning turn into a major confrontation by an arrogant offender.

    I never had a gun pulled on me in that job but I did have other form of violence to deal with. I had no problem dealing with them and I had
    good communication for back-up when needed. FWIW, I did once get shot on
    the job but that was when I first started in the stock room in the
    highways department and it was some nitwit hunting blackbirds in an
    cherry orchard who shot across the road as I was passing in a truck.

    People do indeed talk themselves into tickets. There were a lot of
    things that I normally gave warnings for. Sometimes education works, but
    if someone had a really bad attitude they usually ended up with a
    ticket, or multiple tickets.

    Every once in a while I would be dealing with someone who was a complete asshole and when I checked their conviction records there would be
    incidents where they had had multiple charges for minor things, attitude adjustment charges, the things that people aren't usually charged for,
    like not surrendering documents, and the worse the person was, the more
    likely it was there would be multiple incidents.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 24 01:56:10 2025
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:

    [...] Domestic abuse call where ...

    Dispatch: "Situation ? ..."

    Officer: "The lady of the house shot her husband
    because he walked on her freshly-mopped floor.

    Dispatch: "Do you need backup?"

    Officer: "No, we'll just wait until it dries up a bit."

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Sun Mar 23 22:16:49 2025
    On 2025-03-23 9:56 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:

    [...] Domestic abuse call where ...

    Dispatch: "Situation ? ..."

    Officer: "The lady of the house shot her husband
    because he walked on her freshly-mopped floor.

    Dispatch: "Do you need backup?"

    Officer: "No, we'll just wait until it dries up a bit."


    Most cops hate dealing with domestic situations. It is common for the
    wife to interfere with the arrest of their abuser.

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 24 01:10:32 2025
    Hank Rogers wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    This morning I was talking to my friend and we both had similar
    experiences recently. Getting out of a chair takes more effort than a
    few years ago. Often use hands to give a bit of a push.

    Grocery bags are heavier to bring into the house. In spite of
    shrinkflation, the bags are heavier than ever.

    My conclusion: The government has been slowly increasing gravity over
    the past 5+ years.

    What else could it possibly be? Probably a side effect of the Space
    Program where they shift gravity from the space station to earth.



    Nah, it's probably just all the accumulated lead in our brains from the tainted environment. We are therefore heavier, but we perceive it as increased gravity.

    Besides, if the government did something in the last 70 years, by god,
    you can be damn sure that trump and/or his pet muskrat would have
    reversed it by now.




    Maybe instead of lead, it’s a micro plastics accumulation


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=686067238#686067238

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 24 02:13:47 2025
    Dave Smith wrote:
    I dealt with a lot of Americans on the job and could not
    believe the number of American drivers who would want to shake my hand
    and thank me for treating them so well.


    Did they also ask for your autograph?

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Leonard Blaisdell on Mon Mar 24 10:59:40 2025
    On Mon, 23 Mar 2025, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

    On 2025-03-22, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    You get on the floor?!!!
    I'd not consider getting down on the floor. Next to something I can
    pull up on may be OK, not sure with nothing around. Not going to try.


    Can you imagine a cop telling you to put your hands on your head and get
    on your knees? That thought keeps me on the straight and narrow.


    That's racist! The police, should in the spirit of DEI, be forced to
    assist old people and providing them with a soft pillow for them to get on their knees!

    Trump will surely correct this mistake! =)

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Mon Mar 24 10:56:32 2025
    On 3/24/2025 10:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar I was taught 70 years ago. Nothing
    woke about it.
    Wife abused. Other person doing the abuse is "their" abuser

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Tue Mar 25 02:05:42 2025
    On 24 Mar 2025 14:49:56 GMT, Mike Duffy <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Dave's very broad-minded. Hahahahahahahahahaha!

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Mar 25 02:12:55 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:56:32 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/24/2025 10:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar I was taught 70 years ago. Nothing
    woke about it.
    Wife abused. Other person doing the abuse is "their" abuser

    'their' is plural. It's like saying "Ed and their granddaughter". That
    only makes sense if you're on the fence regarding Ed's gender. No?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Dave Smith on Mon Mar 24 14:49:56 2025
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 24 15:29:58 2025
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/24/2025 10:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar

    Wife abused. Other person doing the
    abuse is "their" abuser

    'Wife' abused. 'Her' abuser. If He had said
    'abused wives' then 'their abusers'.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Ed P on Tue Mar 25 03:14:20 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:10:40 -0400, Ed P <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 3/24/2025 11:29 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar

    Wife abused. Other person doing the
    abuse is "their" abuser

    'Wife' abused. 'Her' abuser. If He had said
    'abused wives' then 'their abusers'.

    He is talking in general terms. One wife here, another wife another
    day, the other wife from last month. Same situation. THEIR abuser.

    There's no plural in the sentence. 'their' is incorrect or woke. 70
    years ago, it wasn't woke yet, unless I underestimate the Polish
    community :)

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/5NvHwfF0/trumpputin.jpg>

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Mon Mar 24 12:10:40 2025
    On 3/24/2025 11:29 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/24/2025 10:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar

    Wife abused. Other person doing the
    abuse is "their" abuser

    'Wife' abused. 'Her' abuser. If He had said
    'abused wives' then 'their abusers'.


    He is talking in general terms. One wife here, another wife another
    day, the other wife from last month. Same situation. THEIR abuser.

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  • From Mike Duffy@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Mar 24 17:35:22 2025
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:

    He is talking in general terms. One wife here, another wife another
    day, the other wife from last month. Same situation. THEIR abuser.

    If in general terms about several women, one would say 'their abusers'.

    (Unless we are talking about Mormons, &c.)

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  • From Dave Smith@21:1/5 to Mike Duffy on Mon Mar 24 14:26:56 2025
    On 2025-03-24 11:29 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Ed P wrote:
    On 3/24/2025 10:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, Dave Smith wrote:

    It is common for the wife to interfere
    with the arrest of their abuser.

    Similarly, do not take someone to task for
    abusing a dog or you may end up fighting both.

    Also, very 'woke' of you to use a gender-neutral
    pronoun like 'their' for singular noun 'wife'.

    Huh? Seems like the proper grammar

    Wife abused. Other person doing the
    abuse is "their" abuser

    'Wife' abused. 'Her' abuser. If He had said
    'abused wives' then 'their abusers'.

    Maybe I thought it was more complicated than it was. That scenario is apparently quite common but I assumed that in each case there was just
    one abuse involved at the time. I didn't assume the abuser is male.
    Lesbian relationships have about the same rates of intimate partner
    abuse as straight relationships. Accordingly, that demographic may well
    preview to play the guess my pronoun game.

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Mar 26 18:45:21 2025
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    ...
    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly
    to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem
    with Usenet accepting caps.

    and here comes the bee up the bonnet folk.

    really, like, i don't take usenet that seriously. it is
    light entertainment and something i do when i have time in
    between other things.

    sometimes when writing poetry you take different paths to
    see where they lead.

    creative writing in general can poosh some boundaries.

    i'm also fairly literate but i don't care to be formal.
    i prefer play, especially when i'm not being paid.

    are a few reasons i do it. i've mentioned one or two before.
    herding is another. if i were a sheep in a herd i'd be the one
    wandering around outside the herd pushing the boundaries so the
    sheepdog has to keep chasing me back to it. there's always at
    least one. hi. nice to meet you. :)

    applies to more than posting Usenet articles. last job i was at
    i parked in the farthest corner of the parking lot from the
    building entrance. had i been driving a newer vehicle it would
    have been to help avoid getting door dings. that new vehicle has
    been a work beater for many years now, i couldn't care less
    about dents. i was asked once why i parked in the most distant
    spot when everyone else was jockeying for the spots closest to the
    door. my response was i don't subscribe to herd mentality. his
    mouth opened like he was going to say something but then sneered
    at me and walked away. mission accomplished. :)

    --
    SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to Cindy Hamilton on Wed Mar 26 18:19:40 2025
    On 2025-03-23, Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    It's easy to look up. Google "Polish donut".

    pączki are the only donuts we ever buy and we have them on fat
    tuesday. neither of us has Polish blood but Buffalo NY has the
    largest Polish community in the nation so it's kind of hard to
    avoid at least a little Polish tradition.

    --
    SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Wed Mar 26 15:24:24 2025
    flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    ...
    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly
    to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem
    with Usenet accepting caps.

    and here comes the bee up the bonnet folk.

    really, like, i don't take usenet that seriously. it is
    light entertainment and something i do when i have time in
    between other things.

    sometimes when writing poetry you take different paths to
    see where they lead.

    creative writing in general can poosh some boundaries.

    i'm also fairly literate but i don't care to be formal.
    i prefer play, especially when i'm not being paid.

    are a few reasons i do it. i've mentioned one or two before.
    herding is another. if i were a sheep in a herd i'd be the one
    wandering around outside the herd pushing the boundaries so the
    sheepdog has to keep chasing me back to it. there's always at
    least one. hi. nice to meet you. :)

    ha! if you have a program that needs testing for
    bugs i'm the person who will find them. i've worked
    with computers since i was 18 and almost always get
    in there and do strange things with them. at the uni
    i was one of the few people who learned how to run
    a remote batch station for the mainframe computer setup
    so i could check out a small remote site they had in
    another building. that meant that i could also use a
    terminal instead of punched cards. immediately i was
    digging into OS manuals and assembler and we got a
    project going where i was connecting the Pascal code
    to some assembler code for doing more direct disk io.
    i was learning things before the classes i was taking
    got to them so when stuff did come along in the class
    material i had hooks in my brain already. this was
    before the age of the internet at first. that came
    along later.

    the stuff being taught in classes were things like
    how to write an OS, compiler for language of your choice,
    editor, database gunk, multicpucomputer simulations
    (at the microcode level), etc. all very fun to me. the
    mundane programs like how to do a web-site just didn't
    have much appeal to me after the more complicated things
    when the internet started out and i happened to mostly
    retire from computer anything other than for projects
    of my own, but nothing big really any more. i did get
    into grad school, but that's a whole different story
    line...


    applies to more than posting Usenet articles. last job i was at
    i parked in the farthest corner of the parking lot from the
    building entrance. had i been driving a newer vehicle it would
    have been to help avoid getting door dings. that new vehicle has
    been a work beater for many years now, i couldn't care less
    about dents. i was asked once why i parked in the most distant
    spot when everyone else was jockeying for the spots closest to the
    door. my response was i don't subscribe to herd mentality. his
    mouth opened like he was going to say something but then sneered
    at me and walked away. mission accomplished. :)

    i park further away because i need the walk. :)

    the last job i had was librarian in a nearby small town.
    new managment came along and eventually i quit in disgust.
    the pay wasn't worth the headaches.

    as for creative writing and poetry i did get some credits
    and writing done at college which of all that a few of my
    best poems were written as usenet replies, but those sometimes
    came years after the classes were over. i was trying to find
    one of them but no luck. i'd still like a copy of it.


    songbird

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to flood of sins on Wed Mar 26 16:38:09 2025
    flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    ...
    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly
    to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem
    with Usenet accepting caps.

    and here comes the bee up the bonnet folk.

    really, like, i don't take usenet that seriously. it is
    light entertainment and something i do when i have time in
    between other things.

    sometimes when writing poetry you take different paths to
    see where they lead.

    creative writing in general can poosh some boundaries.

    i'm also fairly literate but i don't care to be formal.
    i prefer play, especially when i'm not being paid.

    are a few reasons i do it. i've mentioned one or two before.
    herding is another. if i were a sheep in a herd i'd be the one
    wandering around outside the herd pushing the boundaries so the
    sheepdog has to keep chasing me back to it. there's always at
    least one. hi. nice to meet you. :)

    applies to more than posting Usenet articles. last job i was at
    i parked in the farthest corner of the parking lot from the
    building entrance. had i been driving a newer vehicle it would
    have been to help avoid getting door dings. that new vehicle has
    been a work beater for many years now, i couldn't care less
    about dents. i was asked once why i parked in the most distant
    spot when everyone else was jockeying for the spots closest to the
    door. my response was i don't subscribe to herd mentality. his
    mouth opened like he was going to say something but then sneered
    at me and walked away. mission accomplished. :)



    All fine and well, but you and song bird should consider bending your
    rigid rules just a little. Be kind.

    Remember, her royal Majesty is a very old, hardened woman, and expects a certain amount of adoration. It wouldn't hurt you guys to play along a
    little bit, without damaging your own long ingrained philosophies.

    At least, show her all the respect she deserves. I know it's hard to do.
    She's not likely to change, but you can still adapt to keep her
    marginally satiated, unless you are also as hardened and as immutable as
    she is.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Mar 26 16:42:38 2025
    songbird wrote:
    flood of sins wrote:
    On 2025-03-23, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    Jill McQuown wrote:
    ...
    He's already clarified not wanting to use capital letters. Seems silly >>>> to me to find it difficult to use the Shift key to type correctly.
    Blames it on old Usenet from the 1990's. Odd, I never had any problem >>>> with Usenet accepting caps.

    and here comes the bee up the bonnet folk.

    really, like, i don't take usenet that seriously. it is
    light entertainment and something i do when i have time in
    between other things.

    sometimes when writing poetry you take different paths to
    see where they lead.

    creative writing in general can poosh some boundaries.

    i'm also fairly literate but i don't care to be formal.
    i prefer play, especially when i'm not being paid.

    are a few reasons i do it. i've mentioned one or two before.
    herding is another. if i were a sheep in a herd i'd be the one
    wandering around outside the herd pushing the boundaries so the
    sheepdog has to keep chasing me back to it. there's always at
    least one. hi. nice to meet you. :)

    ha! if you have a program that needs testing for
    bugs i'm the person who will find them. i've worked
    with computers since i was 18 and almost always get
    in there and do strange things with them. at the uni
    i was one of the few people who learned how to run
    a remote batch station for the mainframe computer setup
    so i could check out a small remote site they had in
    another building. that meant that i could also use a
    terminal instead of punched cards. immediately i was
    digging into OS manuals and assembler and we got a
    project going where i was connecting the Pascal code
    to some assembler code for doing more direct disk io.
    i was learning things before the classes i was taking
    got to them so when stuff did come along in the class
    material i had hooks in my brain already. this was
    before the age of the internet at first. that came
    along later.

    the stuff being taught in classes were things like
    how to write an OS, compiler for language of your choice,
    editor, database gunk, multicpucomputer simulations
    (at the microcode level), etc. all very fun to me. the
    mundane programs like how to do a web-site just didn't
    have much appeal to me after the more complicated things
    when the internet started out and i happened to mostly
    retire from computer anything other than for projects
    of my own, but nothing big really any more. i did get
    into grad school, but that's a whole different story
    line...


    applies to more than posting Usenet articles. last job i was at
    i parked in the farthest corner of the parking lot from the
    building entrance. had i been driving a newer vehicle it would
    have been to help avoid getting door dings. that new vehicle has
    been a work beater for many years now, i couldn't care less
    about dents. i was asked once why i parked in the most distant
    spot when everyone else was jockeying for the spots closest to the
    door. my response was i don't subscribe to herd mentality. his
    mouth opened like he was going to say something but then sneered
    at me and walked away. mission accomplished. :)

    i park further away because i need the walk. :)

    the last job i had was librarian in a nearby small town.
    new managment came along and eventually i quit in disgust.
    the pay wasn't worth the headaches.

    as for creative writing and poetry i did get some credits
    and writing done at college which of all that a few of my
    best poems were written as usenet replies, but those sometimes
    came years after the classes were over. i was trying to find
    one of them but no luck. i'd still like a copy of it.


    songbird



    That is a VERY impressive resume! I'm sure the company was saddened
    when you resigned. Oh well, their loss.

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  • From flood of sins@21:1/5 to songbird on Fri Mar 28 16:30:00 2025
    On 2025-03-26, songbird <[email protected]> wrote:
    flood of sins wrote:

    are a few reasons i do it. i've mentioned one or two before.
    herding is another. if i were a sheep in a herd i'd be the one
    wandering around outside the herd pushing the boundaries so the
    sheepdog has to keep chasing me back to it. there's always at
    least one. hi. nice to meet you. :)

    ha! if you have a program that needs testing for
    bugs i'm the person who will find them. i've worked
    with computers since i was 18 and almost always get
    in there and do strange things with them. at the uni
    i was one of the few people who learned how to run
    a remote batch station for the mainframe computer setup
    so i could check out a small remote site they had in
    another building. that meant that i could also use a
    terminal instead of punched cards. immediately i was
    digging into OS manuals and assembler and we got a
    project going where i was connecting the Pascal code
    to some assembler code for doing more direct disk io.
    i was learning things before the classes i was taking
    got to them so when stuff did come along in the class
    material i had hooks in my brain already. this was
    before the age of the internet at first. that came
    along later.

    in my sophomore year in high school, 77/78, i signed up for a
    computer class. it wasn't part of the normal curriculum, it was
    an after school thing. learned how to write programs on punch
    cards, dial up what was presumably a mainframe at Buffalo State
    or University at Buffalo and connect with an acoustic coupler,
    run the programs through the reader and the output was output to
    either a terminal or printer. i didn't really hit it off well
    with the other kids in the class. i got along well with
    everyone. nerds. jocks. heads. even the mentally challenged. but
    the group was doing something as a team and i wanted no part of
    it. trigonometry was that year and i was doing some math programs
    for postulates and theorems of trig functions. we weren't allowed
    to use calculators in math class but she said nothing about
    computers. we were expected to do all the math by hand. i got
    bored of that, made some ascii art, and dropped the class after
    a couple months since i'd rather be riding my dirt bikes and
    smoking weed than being bored for an hour after school.

    12 years after that was the next time i used computers and that
    was for my foray from manual into cnc machining.

    the stuff being taught in classes were things like
    how to write an OS, compiler for language of your choice,
    editor, database gunk, multicpucomputer simulations
    (at the microcode level), etc. all very fun to me. the
    mundane programs like how to do a web-site just didn't
    have much appeal to me after the more complicated things
    when the internet started out and i happened to mostly
    retire from computer anything other than for projects
    of my own, but nothing big really any more. i did get
    into grad school, but that's a whole different story
    line...

    i was employed full time in a machine shop (foundry pattern
    shop to be specific) before i graduated high school.

    looking back, had i stuck with computers in high school, and
    knowing myself and desires, it is very likely i would have been
    part of this story. [*] not by name, and certainly not on the
    law enforcement side, but there nonetheless. possibly even
    keeping a bed in a graybar motel warm for a while too. so maybe
    it was better i didn't despite all the fun i missed. :)

    [*]
    https://www.mit.edu/hacker/hacker.html

    i was into bbs's and doing some, well, stuff, before the internet
    became a household word in the mid 90's, so i was too late to the
    party for that. :/

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