• Re: MOP steel

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Jun 22 11:53:04 2025
    On 6/22/2025 4:17 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    strength of granite is given as up to 45,000 PSI. Single point carbide
    tipped chisels are recommended to carve it, carbon steel chisels for
    other types of stone dull in seconds on it. The rock drill rod I turned
    the jack adapter from is a broken and discarded end with the 3" drill
    bit still on. 1/2" carbide buttons worn hemispherical do the cutting/ pulverizing, with compressed air removing the dust.

    "Eglin steel can be welded easily" but machinability isn't mentioned.
    HSS cuts Grade 8.


    My two miracle steels (other than various stainless) are 4140 and 1144.

    4140 has an edge on corrosion resistance due to some chromium, but not
    enough to be consider stainless.

    1144 has a huge edge due to machinability, but it seems to be only made
    in hex and round.
    4140 is machinable, but tends to work harden unless you take fully
    engaged cuts with no rubbing.

    4140 is somewhat touchy to weld, but with preheat welds nicely.
    1144 tends to hot short when welded. (Crumble or turn granular and
    crumble if I understand correctly.)

    Both are forgeable, but I'd forge 1144 at the lower end of the forging
    range. I have forged 1144 at bright red, but not orange heat with good results.

    Both are pretty strong in the annealed state and may be used for many
    tough applications. I tend towards 4140QT TGP for precision shafting,
    and if its very low corrosion environment, and I need to turn journals
    I'll go to 1144.

    I tend to use 1144 more than 4140, primarily because its locally
    available. I have to order 4140.

    Subjectively I would say even in the annealed state 4140 has higher "toughness."

    I believe both 4140 (certainly) and 1144 can be heat treated, but I
    would check the ** ASM Heat Treater's Guide Companion. 1144 may
    require a little more care due to its tendency to hot short.

    If I need an easy mid carbon heat treatable I'd probably pick 1045.

    ** Unfortunately in the predominate abusive rapist mentality that seems
    to permeate the tech sector like an incurable virus, the ASM Heat
    Treater's Guide Companion APP no longer appears to be available through
    the Google owned Play Store. First you are forced to create a password
    to approve payments, and then what you want can not be found. I have
    not checked F-Droid, but F-Droid seems have little new to offer as of
    the last time I checked.


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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun Jun 22 16:18:28 2025
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 11:53:04 -0700
    Bob La Londe <[email protected]> wrote:

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    ** Unfortunately in the predominate abusive rapist mentality that seems
    to permeate the tech sector like an incurable virus, the ASM Heat
    Treater's Guide Companion APP no longer appears to be available through
    the Google owned Play Store. First you are forced to create a password
    to approve payments, and then what you want can not be found. I have
    not checked F-Droid, but F-Droid seems have little new to offer as of
    the last time I checked.

    It looks like it hasn't been updated for awhile, which maybe why
    PlayScam dropped it. I always have to scrounge apps cause I don't have Playstore enabled/loaded... Try this site which I use off and on:

    https://apkpure.com/heat-treater-s-guide-companion/com.pfiks.mobile.heattreaters

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    Leon Fisk
    Grand Rapids MI

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