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  • Re: Timber frame joint rings

    From James Waldby@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Tue Oct 1 23:19:24 2024
    Jim Wilkins <[email protected]> wrote:
    Does anyone have experience with using metal rings to reinforce timber frame joints? https://www.splitringconnectors.com/

    I'm thinking of cutting some scrap 1-1/2" steel tubing (1.66" OD, like water pipe) into rings that could be split open to fit into the kerf of a 1-3/4" hole saw. They would mainly take the shear stress on diagonal braces of the replacement shed frame I'm building from 5" square oak. 5" made full use of the logs I slabbed to 21" wide to fit between the uprights of my bandsaw mill.

    It might be worth trying a 1 - 11/16 hole saw, to see if you could
    avoid having to split the tubing side. (But if you're only doing half
    a dozen or so connections and don't have that size, it might not be
    worth getting one, even at only $7) https://www.acmetools.com/milwaukee-1-11-16-in-hole-dozer-bi-metal-hole-saw-49-56-9620/045242222490.html

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Wed Oct 2 13:47:40 2024
    On 9/24/2024 4:27 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    Does anyone have experience with using metal rings to reinforce timber
    frame joints?
    https://www.splitringconnectors.com/

    I'm thinking of cutting some scrap 1-1/2" steel tubing (1.66" OD, like
    water pipe) into rings that could be split open to fit into the kerf of
    a 1-3/4" hole saw. They would mainly take the shear stress on diagonal
    braces of the replacement shed frame I'm building from 5" square oak. 5"
    made full use of the logs I slabbed to 21" wide to fit between the
    uprights of my bandsaw mill.

    The joints can be drilled 1/4" for trial assembly, then the 1/4" holes
    used to pilot the hole saw into the joining faces of the disassembled
    frame, to align the ring kerfs. A lag screw will pull the joint together
    but not have to hold all the shear force between the brace and frame.
    This avoids a metal splice plate on the outside that would wear holes in
    the tarp covering. The tarps open completely to dry the lumber stored
    inside.

    tia, jsw



    Okay, I looked and I read. Why are they better than nailing plates?
    Price? Production truss plants made the nail plate popular, but trusses
    were built with plywood plates and and nails before that, and small
    pieces of plywood are pretty cheap. Even as expensive as plywood sheets
    are these days.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Wed Oct 2 21:16:07 2024
    On 10/2/2024 3:47 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 9/24/2024 4:27 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    Does anyone have experience with using metal rings to reinforce timber
    frame joints?
    https://www.splitringconnectors.com/

    I'm thinking of cutting some scrap 1-1/2" steel tubing (1.66" OD, like
    water pipe) into rings that could be split open to fit into the kerf
    of a 1-3/4" hole saw. They would mainly take the shear stress on
    diagonal braces of the replacement shed frame I'm building from 5"
    square oak. 5" made full use of the logs I slabbed to 21" wide to fit
    between the uprights of my bandsaw mill.

    The joints can be drilled 1/4" for trial assembly, then the 1/4" holes
    used to pilot the hole saw into the joining faces of the disassembled
    frame, to align the ring kerfs. A lag screw will pull the joint
    together but not have to hold all the shear force between the brace
    and frame. This avoids a metal splice plate on the outside that would
    wear holes in the tarp covering. The tarps open completely to dry the
    lumber stored inside.

    tia, jsw



    Okay, I looked and I read.  Why are they better than nailing plates? Price?  Production truss plants made the nail plate popular, but trusses were built with plywood plates and and nails before that, and small
    pieces of plywood are pretty cheap.  Even as expensive as plywood sheets
    are these days.


    Every truss used in our house has plywood plates and nails . I
    cheated though , I used a pneumatic nail gun . The scissor trusses for
    the vaulted ceiling in the kitchen/dining room were the most fun .
    Nothing has failed and killed anybody yet ...

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