On 1/10/2024 3:43 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

Stocking up (for me).  Order came to just over 600 pounds.  A little
less than 3.40 per pound delivery included.  For more reasons than one I wish I could order this quantity every time I need aluminum.  That's
what you guys on the other side of the pond would call aluminium.

Mr. Small Potatoes here , I just ordered some 2" round stock . A
whole foot of it for probably a lot more per lb than you . It's going to
become some "reducer sleeves" to reduce the bore diameters of a Holley
Sniper EFI throttle body .
The mechanic's theory is blah de de blah blah . I don't know , I just
do what the customer asks if I can and it doesn't break the law .
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Stocking up (for me). Order came to just over 600 pounds. A little
less than 3.40 per pound delivery included. For more reasons than one I
wish I could order this quantity every time I need aluminum. That's
what you guys on the other side of the pond would call aluminium.

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On 10/01/2024 21:43, Bob La Londe wrote:

Stocking up (for me).  Order came to just over 600 pounds.  A little
less than 3.40 per pound delivery included.  For more reasons than one
I wish I could order this quantity every time I need aluminum. That's
what you guys on the other side of the pond would call aluminium.

After I moved back to the UK from the US my local engineering supplier
said they could get me aluminum if I wanted it but it would be much more expensive as it had to be shipped in the from the US ;) , I opted for
the local aluminium they could offer instead. Here we pay for aluminium
in pounds as well.

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On 1/10/2024 6:22 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

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On 1/10/2024 3:43 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

Stocking up (for me).  Order came to just over 600 pounds.  A little
less than 3.40 per pound delivery included.  For more reasons than one
I wish I could order this quantity every time I need aluminum.  That's
what you guys on the other side of the pond would call aluminium.

  Mr. Small Potatoes here , I just ordered some 2" round stock . A
whole foot of it for probably a lot more per lb than you . It's going to become some "reducer sleeves" to reduce the bore diameters of a Holley
Sniper EFI throttle body .
  The mechanic's theory is blah de de blah blah . I don't know , I just
do what the customer asks if I can and it doesn't break the law .

I need to get myself a spot welder... one of these days.

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CNC Molds N Stuff


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On 1/10/2024 2:43 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

Stocking up (for me).  Order came to just over 600 pounds.  A little
less than 3.40 per pound delivery included.  For more reasons than one I wish I could order this quantity every time I need aluminum.  That's
what you guys on the other side of the pond would call aluminium.

I had not bought anything from this vendor in over a year. They no
longer had a regular truck coming by, so I quit buying from them. It
would take a full day off during the week, and a fair amount in fuel to
go get material from them. I figured I'd need to buy about 12-1400lbs
at a shot to make it worth while.

On a gamble I contacted one of their sales people to see if they would
ship pieces common carrier, and I discovered they are running a truck
again. I also discovered that one of the local metal yards had lied to
me about how much aluminum they are buying. They had told me I was
about the only one who bought aluminum from them. Turns out they were
the ones purchasing enough to bring the regular truck back to town.
They also lied to me about cost/pricing. I know what I paid, and if
they are buying more than double that amount on a truck load. They ARE
paying less than I am.

For the last year 99% of my aluminum had been coming cut in half on a
Fed-Ex or UPS truck. I bought a couple pieces fromt he local metal yard
at crazy prices, but avoided them because it was usually (always)
cheaper to ship.

I will say pricing really surprised me. Their price adjustment per unit
was rather granular. For example the difference between one stick of
1/2 x 6 and 4 pieces of 1/2 by 6 was about $50. (My local yard wouldn't
offer a penny even if I offered to buy every piece they had on hand)
When I sent over a bigger quote request everything was priced similarly
or cheaper, and even an increase of one piece made a difference in
price. I'd never experienced that before with this vendor, but I was
dealing with a different sales rep. Midwest is like that, but they are absolutely terrible about shipping. If I order something from them it
might ship in two weeks (the fastest they ship) or it might not ship for several months, and you have to ask before you order how long it will
take. They will not tell you otherwise. In the past Midwest has always
had the best price on the worst service. My old vendor was comparable
in price with Midwest for the first time ever, and the delivery charge
is zero. The best part. They had EVERYTHING I wanted in stock.

I'm not going to name them just yet. It seems every time I brag up a
vendor something goes south.

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"Jim Wilkins" <[email protected]> writes:

I never understood farthings, shillings, florins or crowns, though I know enough Latin to get denarius and libra.

But you probably used 10-penny nails, from a box marked "10 d" without
a second thought.

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"Jim Wilkins" <[email protected]> writes:

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message news:[email protected]e...

"Jim Wilkins" <[email protected]> writes:

I never understood farthings, shillings, florins or crowns, though
I know enough Latin to get denarius and libra.

But you probably used 10-penny nails, from a box marked "10 d" without
a second thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_(unit)

That's the first I've seen of a "long hundred".

Same here.

You also have "Long Ton" of 2240 Lbs or 20 Hundredweight.

My anvil was stamped 0 1 8 in the Stone age. It was plainly of a
useful size to someone long ago, and still is for me.

So it's a small anvil, even smaller than the typical farrier's anvil. Hundred-weights/quarters of cwt/odd pounds = 36 pounds. My Peter
Wright is a 2 2 25. The Hill I gave to my son is a 1 1 4, my first
anvil bought from a drunken junkyard guy in '67.

In the era of hand-forged nails, a good nailer could make 100 nails in
an hour. In 1976, I met a blacksmith [1] who ran a smithing school
where he instructed novices:

+ Make a nail [repeated until good nail made]

+ Make 100 nails [repeated until 100 good nails made in a run]

+ Make 100 nails in a hour

the notion being that by the time the learner had made 100 good nails
in an hour, [s]he knew how to use a hammer and could go on to other challenges/tasks.

An interesting aside: in England in (I think) the 18th c. many nailers
were women. Great strength to wield a heavy hammer not needed (for
small- to medium-sized nails) but manual deftness, a good eye and
willingness to endure tedium were assets. Even in the 19th c. some
people leaving New England for the California gold rush burned their
houses so's to collect the nails. Nails were a big deal.

[1] Slim Spurling. Later abandoned blacksmithing to devise widgets to
manipulate subtle cosmic energies.

https://slimspurling.com/about-slim-2/
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On 1/13/2024 12:24 AM, Mike Spencer wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" <[email protected]> writes:

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
news:[email protected]e...

"Jim Wilkins" <[email protected]> writes:

I never understood farthings, shillings, florins or crowns, though
I know enough Latin to get denarius and libra.

But you probably used 10-penny nails, from a box marked "10 d" without
a second thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_(unit)

That's the first I've seen of a "long hundred".

Same here.

You also have "Long Ton" of 2240 Lbs or 20 Hundredweight.

My anvil was stamped 0 1 8 in the Stone age. It was plainly of a
useful size to someone long ago, and still is for me.

So it's a small anvil, even smaller than the typical farrier's anvil. Hundred-weights/quarters of cwt/odd pounds = 36 pounds. My Peter
Wright is a 2 2 25. The Hill I gave to my son is a 1 1 4, my first
anvil bought from a drunken junkyard guy in '67.

In the era of hand-forged nails, a good nailer could make 100 nails in
an hour. In 1976, I met a blacksmith [1] who ran a smithing school
where he instructed novices:

+ Make a nail [repeated until good nail made]

+ Make 100 nails [repeated until 100 good nails made in a run]

+ Make 100 nails in a hour

the notion being that by the time the learner had made 100 good nails
in an hour, [s]he knew how to use a hammer and could go on to other challenges/tasks.

An interesting aside: in England in (I think) the 18th c. many nailers
were women. Great strength to wield a heavy hammer not needed (for
small- to medium-sized nails) but manual deftness, a good eye and
willingness to endure tedium were assets. Even in the 19th c. some
people leaving New England for the California gold rush burned their
houses so's to collect the nails. Nails were a big deal.

[1] Slim Spurling. Later abandoned blacksmithing to devise widgets to
manipulate subtle cosmic energies.

https://slimspurling.com/about-slim-2/

I've seen hundred wt mentioned before, but only in reference to anvils.
I follow a few black smith channels on YouTube when I need my fix of
mind numbing video blather. Alec Steel, Will Stelter, Black Bear Forge,
Daniel Moss (no longer making videos I believe), and a few others. I
used to follow Essential Craftsman, but he has been doing house building
and other contractor based stuff lately drowning out his black smith
content.

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CNC Molds N Stuff


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