On 2/1/2023 9:21 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:trfa77$mu0s$[email protected]...
On 2/1/2023 5:33 AM, Snag wrote:
On 2/1/2023 6:03 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:trcant$18tb$[email protected]...
I paid $10 a long long long time ago for access to Eternal
September. I don't know if its still just $10, but its still no
additional charge. AIEO is free, and is usually my backup. I don't
know if there still are, but there used to be plenty of free read
only servers.
I don't do the binary groups anymore, so either is fine for me these
days.
Bob La Londe
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ES was free when I joined, and still appears to be:
https://www.eternal-september.org/ jsw
It's always been free ... as long as I've been using it . e-s does
do binaries , but there's a low cap on file size .
Weird. I was sure I paid for access the first time. It was a one time
fee forever access. Back then it was called Motzarella. Motzarella transitioned to Eternal September in around 2009.
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
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OK. I joined ES in 2011, though I was on the Internet at Mitre in 91 or 92.
in 1972 I was posted as a repairman to a mountaintop relay node of an experimental Army wired + wireless military Teletype/data network.
Normally it passed official business such as payrolls but during field exercises we were encouraged to chat informally with other stations to
create continuous message traffic.
In the 1970s during the high solar period we were shooting skip
literally around the world on AM radio (CB). One day my dad was
shooting skip with a guy in New Zealand using a hand held walkie talkie
(full power). His buddy inside on the base station could listen, but
the beam antenna on the tower wouldn't shoot skip to talk back. My dad exchanged QSL cards with the guy by mail. That was in the days before
the FCC basically abandoned CB frequencies and it turned into a garbage
fest. He still has that card on the wall in his work shop.
Of course there was a guy down the way with a huge linear and tons of
unclean bleed over across thousands of frequencies. Every time he keyed
up that mic it made watching television impossible. Eventually he
cleaned up a little, but I still got even when I got older. In the
early 80s I put non resister wires on my first car (67 Cortina) and
would drive by his house real slow on the way home and to work every
day. One day years later he told me he could tell instantly when I
started my car at home 10 lots down the street.
Street is being generous. We were the only two house on the street, and
it was dirt. LOL.
My dad used to keep his beam antenna basically parallel with the freeway
2 miles away. He could talk with truckers for 16 miles in one direction
to the mountains and nearly 50 in the other. The side lobes on the
antenna were good enough that there was only a tiny break in
conversation as a truck running past us at 70MPH move out of the big
lobe into the small lobe. Most of the truckers seemed to be running
power mics and small linears. Those who put an antenna up top so it was
over the trailer had a great metal ground plane as well.
Me I just had a 1/4 watt two channel radio with actual crystals. If I
wanted a different channel I had to change the crystals.
I didn't get on the Internet until around 93, but I was big into Rime
Net and Relay Net through various dial up private boards in the 80s. I actually bought and sold some equipment through those including the
first modems I used for programming alarm panels remotely. I remember
trading a rifle for a Practical Peripherals 9600 with compression when I
was still using the privately run bulletin boards. People would come to
my place to download stuff because it was so much faster. I used to
have girlfriends get absolutely furious with me because my phone was
busy all night long.
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Bob La Londe
Proffessional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a
real machinist
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