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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 22 19:57:11 2025
    I picked a frameset up cheap and have a mostly Super Record 11 speed set laying around. I also have a Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels. It appears that the front rim is slightly narrower than the rear rim. This makes it almost impossible to put an
    innertube in the front wheel so I will change it over to tubeless The Michelin Pro5's appear to have been changed from racing tires to endurance tires. I will see how they work as TLR's. The Pirelli's did NOT work very well but they are racing tires with
    thin rubber on the sidewalls. I'll see how this works and if it is OK I will change the Shamals over to tubeless. I stopped this because I was getting tubeless flats that were nasty to repair but Silca is making really first rate sealant these days. So I
    will try that.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 22 20:01:16 2025
    On Fri Aug 22 19:57:11 2025 cyclintom wrote:
    I picked a frameset up cheap and have a mostly Super Record 11 speed set laying around. I also have a Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels. It appears that the front rim is slightly narrower than the rear rim. This makes it almost impossible to put an
    innertube in the front wheel so I will change it over to tubeless The Michelin Pro5's appear to have been changed from racing tires to endurance tires. I will see how they work as TLR's. The Pirelli's did NOT work very well but they are racing tires with
    thin rubber on the sidewalls. I'll see how this works and if it is OK I will change the Shamals over to tubeless. I stopped this because I was getting tubeless flats that were nasty to repair but Silca is making really first rate sealant these days. So I
    will try that.


    I just discovered a steel Precisa for on Ebay that looks like just the thing I'm looking for and at a reasonable price so I ordered that. The Carbon Fork will be very easy to sell after I have the steel fork powder coated the correct color.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Fri Aug 22 15:09:56 2025
    On 8/22/2025 2:57 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    I picked a frameset up cheap and have a mostly Super Record 11 speed set laying around. I also have a Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels. It appears that the front rim is slightly narrower than the rear rim. This makes it almost impossible to put an
    innertube in the front wheel so I will change it over to tubeless The Michelin Pro5's appear to have been changed from racing tires to endurance tires. I will see how they work as TLR's. The Pirelli's did NOT work very well but they are racing tires with
    thin rubber on the sidewalls. I'll see how this works and if it is OK I will change the Shamals over to tubeless. I stopped this because I was getting tubeless flats that were nasty to repair but Silca is making really first rate sealant these days. So I
    will try that.

    If they are an actual pair, Shamal Ultra C17 should be 17mm
    inside for both. If they are two different Shamal products
    than it's possible they don't match (and should have been
    very inexpensive if that's so).

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    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 22 20:20:47 2025
    On Fri Aug 22 15:09:56 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 8/22/2025 2:57 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    I picked a frameset up cheap and have a mostly Super Record 11 speed set laying around. I also have a Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels. It appears that the front rim is slightly narrower than the rear rim. This makes it almost impossible to put an
    innertube in the front wheel so I will change it over to tubeless The Michelin Pro5's appear to have been changed from racing tires to endurance tires. I will see how they work as TLR's. The Pirelli's did NOT work very well but they are racing tires with
    thin rubber on the sidewalls. I'll see how this works and if it is OK I will change the Shamals over to tubeless. I stopped this because I was getting tubeless flats that were nasty to repair but Silca is making really first rate sealant these days. So I
    will try that.

    If they are an actual pair, Shamal Ultra C17 should be 17mm
    inside for both. If they are two different Shamal products
    than it's possible they don't match (and should have been
    very inexpensive if that's so).




    The problem could be that the Pro5's are slightly different in the ID. On the back rim, the tires fir in such a way that you could tuck the innertubes into the tires so that it was easy to get the levers in without pinching the tube. Not so with the
    front where you couldn't get the tube inside of the tire at the point at which you needed to in order to get the levers in to get the final 3 inches onto the tire.

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Fri Aug 22 15:27:22 2025
    On 8/22/2025 3:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Fri Aug 22 15:09:56 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 8/22/2025 2:57 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    I picked a frameset up cheap and have a mostly Super Record 11 speed set laying around. I also have a Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels. It appears that the front rim is slightly narrower than the rear rim. This makes it almost impossible to put an
    innertube in the front wheel so I will change it over to tubeless The Michelin Pro5's appear to have been changed from racing tires to endurance tires. I will see how they work as TLR's. The Pirelli's did NOT work very well but they are racing tires with
    thin rubber on the sidewalls. I'll see how this works and if it is OK I will change the Shamals over to tubeless. I stopped this because I was getting tubeless flats that were nasty to repair but Silca is making really first rate sealant these days. So I
    will try that.

    If they are an actual pair, Shamal Ultra C17 should be 17mm
    inside for both. If they are two different Shamal products
    than it's possible they don't match (and should have been
    very inexpensive if that's so).




    The problem could be that the Pro5's are slightly different in the ID. On the back rim, the tires fir in such a way that you could tuck the innertubes into the tires so that it was easy to get the levers in without pinching the tube. Not so with the
    front where you couldn't get the tube inside of the tire at the point at which you needed to in order to get the levers in to get the final 3 inches onto the tire.

    Different (wrong) rim liners would explain that if the rims
    match.

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    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 24 12:47:58 2025
    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:01:16 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    I just discovered a steel Precisa for on Ebay that looks like just the thing I'm looking for and at a reasonable price so I ordered that. The Carbon Fork will be very easy to sell after I have the steel fork powder coated the correct color.

    That's odd. I can't find a record of a Colnago Precisa fork that was
    recently sold on eBay: <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=%22Precisa%22+fork&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1>
    Did I miss something?

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    Jeff Liebermann [email protected]
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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