Yes, deported... According to the voice mail I got while out on my
ride today, if I don't call the number she gave me, I should expect a
knock on my door from ICE agents. I was too tired after riding 40
miles in 90+ degree weather to make the call, so I better leave the
light on for the IC agents.
On Thu Aug 21 18:29:35 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, deported... According to the voice mail I got while out on my
ride today, if I don't call the number she gave me, I should expect a
knock on my door from ICE agents. I was too tired after riding 40
miles in 90+ degree weather to make the call, so I better leave the
light on for the IC agents.
The Democrats are threatening everything. In the local paper a man promised we'd all die from the plague because we stopped American taxpayers from paying for USAID.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:04:33 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu Aug 21 18:29:35 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, deported... According to the voice mail I got while out on my
ride today, if I don't call the number she gave me, I should expect a
knock on my door from ICE agents. I was too tired after riding 40
miles in 90+ degree weather to make the call, so I better leave the
light on for the IC agents.
The Democrats are threatening everything. In the local paper a man promised we'd all die from the plague because we stopped American taxpayers from paying for USAID.
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 8/22/2025 3:51 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:04:33 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu Aug 21 18:29:35 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, deported... According to the voice mail I got while out on my
ride today, if I don't call the number she gave me, I should expect a
knock on my door from ICE agents. I was too tired after riding 40
miles in 90+ degree weather to make the call, so I better leave the
light on for the IC agents.
The Democrats are threatening everything. In the local paper a man
promised we'd all die from the plague because we stopped American
taxpayers from paying for USAID.
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Having had the same telephone number for 55 years, which has been on our
web pages since 1995, we're inundated with scam and spam calls (&
emails). Mr Kunich is not special, this is our modern world.
On 8/22/2025 3:51 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:04:33 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Thu Aug 21 18:29:35 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote:
Yes, deported... According to the voice mail I got while out on my
ride today, if I don't call the number she gave me, I should expect a
knock on my door from ICE agents. I was too tired after riding 40
miles in 90+ degree weather to make the call, so I better leave the
light on for the IC agents.
The Democrats are threatening everything. In the local paper a man
promised we'd all die from the plague because we stopped American
taxpayers from paying for USAID.
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Having had the same telephone number for 55 years, which has
been on our web pages since 1995, we're inundated with scam
and spam calls (& emails). Mr Kunich is not special, this
is our modern world.
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved" <https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter" <https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/> <https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call >Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved" ><https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter" ><https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/> ><https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of >blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I >eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
On 8/22/2025 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call
Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved"
<https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter"
<https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/>
<https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of
blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I
eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call >Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved" ><https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter" ><https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/> ><https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of >blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I >eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:09:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call >>Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved" >><https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing >>organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter" >><https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by >>NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/> >><https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of >>blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging >>blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to >>disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other >>blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I >>eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the >>phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan. >><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
It is far simpler here. If its not in English, I don't answer :-)
On 8/22/2025 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call
Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved"
<https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter"
<https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/>
<https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of
blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I
eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
On 8/22/2025 9:14 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:11:56 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
You'll probably start getting phone calls from AI's. The calls will
probably be the same as now, but without the added expense of the
human telemarketing pool.
"Telemarketing companies in Pakistan"
<https://callin.io/telemarketing-companies-in-pakistan/>
Eventually, you will probably purchase an AI that is capable of
arguing with the AI scambot. It will probably mimic the voice of a
well known entertainer, public figure, or someone you probably know.
The good news is that you will be able to identify that it's an AI
because it will likely mangle English idiom and pronunciation in the
same manner as today's AI generate YouTube videos.
We return you now to today's reality, as it rapidly transitions into
tomorrow's virtuality.
Those are already prevalent.
Many initiate their script on hearing 'Hello', which I do
not use; always 'Good morning' or 'Good afternoon'.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:11:56 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
You'll probably start getting phone calls from AI's. The calls will
probably be the same as now, but without the added expense of the
human telemarketing pool.
"Telemarketing companies in Pakistan" <https://callin.io/telemarketing-companies-in-pakistan/>
Eventually, you will probably purchase an AI that is capable of
arguing with the AI scambot. It will probably mimic the voice of a
well known entertainer, public figure, or someone you probably know.
The good news is that you will be able to identify that it's an AI
because it will likely mangle English idiom and pronunciation in the
same manner as today's AI generate YouTube videos.
We return you now to today's reality, as it rapidly transitions into tomorrow's virtuality.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 20:11:56 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:
On 8/22/2025 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 16:51:19 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
I get three or four scam calls or texts every day. Usually, I just
reject them before the phone answers them, but not when I'm riding.
That's too many calls. On my cell phone, I get maybe 3 per MONTH. Did
you register your mobile phone number with the "National Do Not Call
Registry"? I did when it first appeared in 2003. There were some
problems initially the resulted in my having to re-register about 3
times. After that, it has generally worked for me.
"The History of Do Not Call and How Telemarketing Has Evolved"
<https://www.naag.org/attorney-general-journal/do-not-call-the-history-of-do-not-call-and-how-telemarketing-has-evolved/>
However, the registry only works for legitimate telemarketing
organizations. For robots and overseas call centers in Pakistan and
other countries that specialize in money sucking scams, Verizon offers
call blocking:
"Block the stress of unwanted calls with Call Filter"
<https://www.verizon.com/solutions-and-services/add-ons/protection-and-security/call-filter/>
I've have the fee service since it started in March 2019. Like all
such services, the initial introduction had some difficulties. The
big one was that it would catch the scam call on the second ring, and
not the first ring. The result was my phone would erratically ring
once, on the first ring, which was rather irritating. Fortunately,
that problem, and several others were eventually fixed.
For my home phone, I use Ooma. I have the "premier" service which
includes spam blocking and "suspected spammer" blocking service by
NoMoRobo.
<https://support.ooma.com/home/suspected-spammer-call-blocking/>
<https://www.nomorobo.com>
It works, but works a little too well. It has the irritating habit of
blocking valid incoming numbers that are in it's black list. I don't
know the case. Ooma support was useless because they stopped logging
blocked incoming calls and therefore can't investigate. I've had to
disable parts of the call blocking feature. Fortunately, the other
blocking features and settings work well.
The only spam and scam calls I get on my home phone are from what
appears to be human operated marketing organizations in the US. For
the last 10 years, I was getting the calls from the same people,
different caller ID numbers, and offering the same services or junk. I
eventually determined (by trial and error) that if I didn't answer the
phone or the call went to an answering machine, I was at work, and
they would need to call again at a different time. Extended periods
where nobody answered was interpreted as being on vacation or that I
had died. I did this by examining the instruction manuals on the
software they were using. I detected that the calls were coming from
them because the CNAM (caller ID) random phone number did not match
the area code and CO code in the North American Numbering Plan.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan>
I still get some spam and scam calls from these humans, but far fewer
that before I began ignoring their incoming calls.
Our telephone service provider has a block number feature
but it has a limited number, which we filled in the first
few days with this carrier.
I needed a car moved from North Dakota in 2022 and found one
of the many cheap firms to move it. I still get car
transport solicitation calls, including two today.
All that is above the incessant scam credit card processing
services, business loan scams and all the rest...
Once or twice a week I get a scam text that claims to be from my
Internet provider. It claims that my payment did not go through and
that my internet is going to be shut off if I don't pay "them" right
now.
Florida has lots of toll roads and you can set up a DOT system that
scans a windshield mounted device. The payment is paid from a small
$25 fund that is automatically renewed from my credit card number. I regularly get texts that claim that payment is due and my driver's
license will be revoked if I don't pay "them" right now.
I'm amazed that some people must actually fall for these obvious
scams.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Yes, I did set up with the do not call registry, but it seems to not
be working.. Thanks for reminding me.. I think I'll do it again.
All of the scam calls are claiming to come from numbers in the USA,
many with local or nearby codes.
I understand that the scammers can
use other people's numbers.
My Iphone has a system where I can block numbers. I have over 50
numbers blocked, but that doesn't stop them so I don't bother any
more. I assume they just use another number.
My Iphone also has a system where it silenced calls from numbers that
are not on my contact list and I used that for a few years until I
realized, thanks to my son, that even though I didn't hear a ring, the
phone would answer them and send them to voicemail, and therefore,
even though someone didn't leave a voice message, the number would be
labled as attended.
Since I stopped that system and simply rejected calls I didn't
recognize, I seem to be getting fewer scam calls.
The scam call that got through when I was riding was because I
couldn't see the number to determine is it was valid or scam. it's
difficult to see the Iphone screen in sunlight with sunglasses.
I wear bone conduction headphones when I ride and phone calls stop the
music and send me the ring so I can answer. When the recorded voice
started to play, I simply silenced the headset because the Iphone's
power on/off button is the one I press to reject a call and that
button is hard to get at when the phone is mounted on my bike.
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 04:10:33 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I did set up with the do not call registry, but it seems to not
be working.. Thanks for reminding me.. I think I'll do it again.
Originally starting in 2004, registrations needed to be renewed every
5 years. The Do-Not-Call Improvement Act of 2007 eliminated this >requirement. ><https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/reports/do-not-call-improvement-act-2007-report-congress-regarding-accuracy-do-not-call-registry/p034305dncreport.pdf>
<https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/110th-congress/senate-report/246/1?outputFormat=pdf>
That's the theory, but reality tends to be somewhat different. When I
moved my home phone from AT&T to Ooma VoIP in 2022, my DNC
registration disappeared. I didn't receive any notification
announcing the change. When I checked online if I was still
registered, the problem was obvious. I re-registered and the
telemarketing calls SLOWLY decreased over a 3 month period. I later
was informed this happened because of a "clerical error" and should
not happen again.
All of the scam calls are claiming to come from numbers in the USA,
many with local or nearby codes.
I understand that the scammers can
use other people's numbers.
One of the benefits of a toll free 800 area code is the ability to
change what is displayed on the caller ID (CID and CNAM). The
scammers do this on the fly and change the number with every call. For >reasons unknown, the area code (first 3 digits) and central office
code (second 3 digits of 10 digit phone number) are selected to be in
the same area code as me, but not in any nearby central office. ><https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/spoofing>
My Iphone has a system where I can block numbers. I have over 50
numbers blocked, but that doesn't stop them so I don't bother any
more. I assume they just use another number.
True.
My Iphone also has a system where it silenced calls from numbers that
are not on my contact list and I used that for a few years until I >>realized, thanks to my son, that even though I didn't hear a ring, the >>phone would answer them and send them to voicemail, and therefore,
even though someone didn't leave a voice message, the number would be >>labled as attended.
I had the same problem when caller ID was first introduced as a
$5/month option. I soon discovered that about 20% of my contacts
blocked caller ID and my phone would not ring. To add to the
confusion, I had separate and different address books for my home,
mobile, various VoIP, Google, FAX, etc numbers. I didn't try to
create a single unified address book as I knew it would soon fail due
to lack of maintenance. My Android phone has apps that voice announce
the caller ID screen. I use it erratically, mostly while driving or
at night when I don't want to jump out of bed when the phone rings.
Not ideal, but good enough.
Since I stopped that system and simply rejected calls I didn't
recognize, I seem to be getting fewer scam calls.
The scam call that got through when I was riding was because I
couldn't see the number to determine is it was valid or scam. it's >>difficult to see the Iphone screen in sunlight with sunglasses.
Your Iphone should have something for voice announcing incoming calls.
Looks like Siri has it built in: ><https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/have-siri-announce-calls-and-notifications-iph838fd6fd4/ios>
I wear bone conduction headphones when I ride and phone calls stop the >>music and send me the ring so I can answer. When the recorded voice
started to play, I simply silenced the headset because the Iphone's
power on/off button is the one I press to reject a call and that
button is hard to get at when the phone is mounted on my bike.
I don't ride any more, but I do go on hikes. All my incoming calls go
to voicemail. I sometimes leave a custom message indicating that I'm
busy and will be checking my voicemail at some specified time. Also
not ideal, but good enough.
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:03:51 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 04:10:33 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I did set up with the do not call registry, but it seems to not
be working.. Thanks for reminding me.. I think I'll do it again.
Originally starting in 2004, registrations needed to be renewed every
5 years. The Do-Not-Call Improvement Act of 2007 eliminated this
requirement.
<https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/reports/do-not-call-improvement-act-2007-report-congress-regarding-accuracy-do-not-call-registry/p034305dncreport.pdf>
<https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/110th-congress/senate-report/246/1?outputFormat=pdf>
That's the theory, but reality tends to be somewhat different. When I
moved my home phone from AT&T to Ooma VoIP in 2022, my DNC
registration disappeared. I didn't receive any notification
announcing the change. When I checked online if I was still
registered, the problem was obvious. I re-registered and the
telemarketing calls SLOWLY decreased over a 3 month period. I later
was informed this happened because of a "clerical error" and should
not happen again.
All of the scam calls are claiming to come from numbers in the USA,
many with local or nearby codes.
I understand that the scammers can
use other people's numbers.
One of the benefits of a toll free 800 area code is the ability to
change what is displayed on the caller ID (CID and CNAM). The
scammers do this on the fly and change the number with every call. For
reasons unknown, the area code (first 3 digits) and central office
code (second 3 digits of 10 digit phone number) are selected to be in
the same area code as me, but not in any nearby central office.
<https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/spoofing>
My Iphone has a system where I can block numbers. I have over 50
numbers blocked, but that doesn't stop them so I don't bother any
more. I assume they just use another number.
True.
My Iphone also has a system where it silenced calls from numbers that
are not on my contact list and I used that for a few years until I
realized, thanks to my son, that even though I didn't hear a ring, the
phone would answer them and send them to voicemail, and therefore,
even though someone didn't leave a voice message, the number would be
labled as attended.
I had the same problem when caller ID was first introduced as a
$5/month option. I soon discovered that about 20% of my contacts
blocked caller ID and my phone would not ring. To add to the
confusion, I had separate and different address books for my home,
mobile, various VoIP, Google, FAX, etc numbers. I didn't try to
create a single unified address book as I knew it would soon fail due
to lack of maintenance. My Android phone has apps that voice announce
the caller ID screen. I use it erratically, mostly while driving or
at night when I don't want to jump out of bed when the phone rings.
Not ideal, but good enough.
My phone displays the name of the caller if it's one of my contacts,
or sometimes the location, or else simply the number. Many calls are
lebeled as scams. I just reject those.
Since I stopped that system and simply rejected calls I didn't
recognize, I seem to be getting fewer scam calls.
The scam call that got through when I was riding was because I
couldn't see the number to determine is it was valid or scam. it's
difficult to see the Iphone screen in sunlight with sunglasses.
Your Iphone should have something for voice announcing incoming calls.
Looks like Siri has it built in:
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/have-siri-announce-calls-and-notifications-iph838fd6fd4/ios>
I do my best to keep Siri from bothering me. She's there when I need
her, but otherwise leaves me alone.
I wear bone conduction headphones when I ride and phone calls stop the
music and send me the ring so I can answer. When the recorded voice
started to play, I simply silenced the headset because the Iphone's
power on/off button is the one I press to reject a call and that
button is hard to get at when the phone is mounted on my bike.
I don't ride any more, but I do go on hikes. All my incoming calls go
to voicemail. I sometimes leave a custom message indicating that I'm
busy and will be checking my voicemail at some specified time. Also
not ideal, but good enough.
--My sister's husband was deported. They lived in Texas and he was here
C'est bon
Soloman
On 8/23/2025 5:47 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:03:51 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>My sister's husband was deported. They lived in Texas and he was here
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 04:10:33 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I did set up with the do not call registry, but it seems to not
be working.. Thanks for reminding me.. I think I'll do it again.
Originally starting in 2004, registrations needed to be renewed every
5 years. The Do-Not-Call Improvement Act of 2007 eliminated this
requirement.
<https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/reports/do-not-call-improvement-act-2007-report-congress-regarding-accuracy-do-not-call-registry/p034305dncreport.pdf>
<https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/110th-congress/senate-report/246/1?outputFormat=pdf>
That's the theory, but reality tends to be somewhat different. When I
moved my home phone from AT&T to Ooma VoIP in 2022, my DNC
registration disappeared. I didn't receive any notification
announcing the change. When I checked online if I was still
registered, the problem was obvious. I re-registered and the
telemarketing calls SLOWLY decreased over a 3 month period. I later
was informed this happened because of a "clerical error" and should
not happen again.
All of the scam calls are claiming to come from numbers in the USA,
many with local or nearby codes.
I understand that the scammers can
use other people's numbers.
One of the benefits of a toll free 800 area code is the ability to
change what is displayed on the caller ID (CID and CNAM). The
scammers do this on the fly and change the number with every call. For
reasons unknown, the area code (first 3 digits) and central office
code (second 3 digits of 10 digit phone number) are selected to be in
the same area code as me, but not in any nearby central office.
<https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/spoofing>
My Iphone has a system where I can block numbers. I have over 50
numbers blocked, but that doesn't stop them so I don't bother any
more. I assume they just use another number.
True.
My Iphone also has a system where it silenced calls from numbers that
are not on my contact list and I used that for a few years until I
realized, thanks to my son, that even though I didn't hear a ring, the >>>> phone would answer them and send them to voicemail, and therefore,
even though someone didn't leave a voice message, the number would be
labled as attended.
I had the same problem when caller ID was first introduced as a
$5/month option. I soon discovered that about 20% of my contacts
blocked caller ID and my phone would not ring. To add to the
confusion, I had separate and different address books for my home,
mobile, various VoIP, Google, FAX, etc numbers. I didn't try to
create a single unified address book as I knew it would soon fail due
to lack of maintenance. My Android phone has apps that voice announce
the caller ID screen. I use it erratically, mostly while driving or
at night when I don't want to jump out of bed when the phone rings.
Not ideal, but good enough.
My phone displays the name of the caller if it's one of my contacts,
or sometimes the location, or else simply the number. Many calls are
lebeled as scams. I just reject those.
Since I stopped that system and simply rejected calls I didn't
recognize, I seem to be getting fewer scam calls.
The scam call that got through when I was riding was because I
couldn't see the number to determine is it was valid or scam. it's
difficult to see the Iphone screen in sunlight with sunglasses.
Your Iphone should have something for voice announcing incoming calls.
Looks like Siri has it built in:
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/have-siri-announce-calls-and-notifications-iph838fd6fd4/ios>
I do my best to keep Siri from bothering me. She's there when I need
her, but otherwise leaves me alone.
I wear bone conduction headphones when I ride and phone calls stop the >>>> music and send me the ring so I can answer. When the recorded voice
started to play, I simply silenced the headset because the Iphone's
power on/off button is the one I press to reject a call and that
button is hard to get at when the phone is mounted on my bike.
I don't ride any more, but I do go on hikes. All my incoming calls go
to voicemail. I sometimes leave a custom message indicating that I'm
busy and will be checking my voicemail at some specified time. Also
not ideal, but good enough.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
not legally and on ID check got him. He has been in the US for at least
15 years married my sister a citizen but they did not go through the >channels. Supposedly now because he has no passport Mexico would not
take him back so in a facility on board in US. It all seems strange to
me clearly he is a Hispanic Mexican. Can they do this in Mexico
On 8/23/2025 5:47 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:03:51 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>My sister's husband was deported. They lived in Texas and he was here
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 04:10:33 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I did set up with the do not call registry, but it seems to not
be working.. Thanks for reminding me.. I think I'll do it again.
Originally starting in 2004, registrations needed to be renewed every
5 years. The Do-Not-Call Improvement Act of 2007 eliminated this
requirement.
<https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/reports/do-not-call-improvement-act-2007-report-congress-regarding-accuracy-do-not-call-registry/p034305dncreport.pdf>
<https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/110th-congress/senate-report/246/1?outputFormat=pdf>
That's the theory, but reality tends to be somewhat different. When I
moved my home phone from AT&T to Ooma VoIP in 2022, my DNC
registration disappeared. I didn't receive any notification
announcing the change. When I checked online if I was still
registered, the problem was obvious. I re-registered and the
telemarketing calls SLOWLY decreased over a 3 month period. I later
was informed this happened because of a "clerical error" and should
not happen again.
All of the scam calls are claiming to come from numbers in the USA,
many with local or nearby codes.
I understand that the scammers can
use other people's numbers.
One of the benefits of a toll free 800 area code is the ability to
change what is displayed on the caller ID (CID and CNAM). The
scammers do this on the fly and change the number with every call. For
reasons unknown, the area code (first 3 digits) and central office
code (second 3 digits of 10 digit phone number) are selected to be in
the same area code as me, but not in any nearby central office.
<https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/spoofing>
My Iphone has a system where I can block numbers. I have over 50
numbers blocked, but that doesn't stop them so I don't bother any
more. I assume they just use another number.
True.
My Iphone also has a system where it silenced calls from numbers that
are not on my contact list and I used that for a few years until I
realized, thanks to my son, that even though I didn't hear a ring, the >>>> phone would answer them and send them to voicemail, and therefore,
even though someone didn't leave a voice message, the number would be
labled as attended.
I had the same problem when caller ID was first introduced as a
$5/month option. I soon discovered that about 20% of my contacts
blocked caller ID and my phone would not ring. To add to the
confusion, I had separate and different address books for my home,
mobile, various VoIP, Google, FAX, etc numbers. I didn't try to
create a single unified address book as I knew it would soon fail due
to lack of maintenance. My Android phone has apps that voice announce
the caller ID screen. I use it erratically, mostly while driving or
at night when I don't want to jump out of bed when the phone rings.
Not ideal, but good enough.
My phone displays the name of the caller if it's one of my contacts,
or sometimes the location, or else simply the number. Many calls are
lebeled as scams. I just reject those.
Since I stopped that system and simply rejected calls I didn't
recognize, I seem to be getting fewer scam calls.
The scam call that got through when I was riding was because I
couldn't see the number to determine is it was valid or scam. it's
difficult to see the Iphone screen in sunlight with sunglasses.
Your Iphone should have something for voice announcing incoming calls.
Looks like Siri has it built in:
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/have-siri-announce-calls-and-notifications-iph838fd6fd4/ios>
I do my best to keep Siri from bothering me. She's there when I need
her, but otherwise leaves me alone.
I wear bone conduction headphones when I ride and phone calls stop the >>>> music and send me the ring so I can answer. When the recorded voice
started to play, I simply silenced the headset because the Iphone's
power on/off button is the one I press to reject a call and that
button is hard to get at when the phone is mounted on my bike.
I don't ride any more, but I do go on hikes. All my incoming calls go
to voicemail. I sometimes leave a custom message indicating that I'm
busy and will be checking my voicemail at some specified time. Also
not ideal, but good enough.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
not legally and on ID check got him. He has been in the US for at least
15 years married my sister a citizen but they did not go through the >channels. Supposedly now because he has no passport Mexico would not
take him back so in a facility on board in US. It all seems strange to
me clearly he is a Hispanic Mexican. Can they do this in Mexico
My sister's husband was deported. They lived in Texas and he was here
not legally and on ID check got him. He has been in the US for at least
15 years married my sister a citizen but they did not go through the channels. Supposedly now because he has no passport Mexico would not
take him back so in a facility on board in US. It all seems strange to
me clearly he is a Hispanic Mexican. Can they do this in Mexico
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