• Even more derailleur fun

    From Beej Jorgensen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 17:39:43 2025
    My round-towner (not the same as the bike with the busted derailleur)
    starting making a faint rattle from the back somewhere just when
    cranking on the right. No play in the cranks... my $12 pedals, maybe? My cheap-ass wire baskets somehow?

    I pulled the back wheel off and immediately suspected something was
    amiss when the entire rear derailleur came off in my hand. The hanger
    bolt to the frame had apparently just worked its way out at some point.
    Maybe that gave just enough play to cause the rattle.

    LBS to the rescue and we're back in fighting trim. And I'll have to have
    more regular bolt tightness checks. :)

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    Brian "Beej Jorgensen" Hall | [email protected]

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jun 11 13:48:45 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 17:39:43 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    My round-towner (not the same as the bike with the busted derailleur) >starting making a faint rattle from the back somewhere just when
    cranking on the right. No play in the cranks... my $12 pedals, maybe? My >cheap-ass wire baskets somehow?

    I pulled the back wheel off and immediately suspected something was
    amiss when the entire rear derailleur came off in my hand. The hanger
    bolt to the frame had apparently just worked its way out at some point.
    Maybe that gave just enough play to cause the rattle.

    LBS to the rescue and we're back in fighting trim. And I'll have to have
    more regular bolt tightness checks. :)

    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Beej Jorgensen@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jun 11 18:29:12 2025
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    --
    Brian "Beej Jorgensen" Hall | [email protected]

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Beej Jorgensen on Wed Jun 11 18:48:24 2025
    Beej Jorgensen <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.


    My old MTB that I converted into the commute beast, did go though a stage
    of old bolts and similar slowly failing aka not staying tight!

    Which with the seat clam could be rather tedious! Which wasn’t a huge
    mileage either, but fairly rattling and the bike was 10+ years old and had
    been used properly as a MTB I guess.

    New bolts/clamps etc seem to solve it!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 18:50:34 2025
    On Wed Jun 11 17:39:43 2025 Beej Jorgensen wrote:
    My round-towner (not the same as the bike with the busted derailleur) starting making a faint rattle from the back somewhere just when
    cranking on the right. No play in the cranks... my $12 pedals, maybe? My cheap-ass wire baskets somehow?

    I pulled the back wheel off and immediately suspected something was
    amiss when the entire rear derailleur came off in my hand. The hanger
    bolt to the frame had apparently just worked its way out at some point.
    Maybe that gave just enough play to cause the rattle.

    LBS to the rescue and we're back in fighting trim. And I'll have to have
    more regular bolt tightness checks. :)




    Maybe the same thing I have, my right heel hits the stay. Not hard but enough to make a noise.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jun 11 18:29:54 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Wed Jun 11 18:05:42 2025
    On 6/11/2025 5:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Mr Jorgensen brings up a real and valid concern, something
    for which I have no snappy solution.

    Let's say we're looking for Juan Valdez who has a prior
    deportation order and a felony conviction. How do you know
    the guy in front of you, named Juan Valdez, is the same
    person? You don't.

    I linked earlier to one of the several dozen per year US
    citizens who spent days or weeks jailed just because their
    own valid ID matches the name of a wanted person. No easy
    answer to that either. Expecting competence from government
    employees, MVD clerks to police, is more hope than plan.

    And for people not wanting to be deported, there's a rich
    selection of fake ID now, muddling an already murky situation.

    I did some three-day sentences under a fake name (wanted
    elsewhere) back in the pre computer days. You'd think modern
    technology would clear up details, what with iris scans and
    facial recognition. We're not there yet. Being _not_
    recognized as a citizen or lawful visitor or lawful resident
    alien is not yet certain enough.

    Which leaves us yet within the judgement of the LE in the
    moment. Errors will be made, both ways, regardless of policy.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Jun 12 04:32:08 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:05:42 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 5:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Mr Jorgensen brings up a real and valid concern, something
    for which I have no snappy solution.

    Let's say we're looking for Juan Valdez who has a prior
    deportation order and a felony conviction. How do you know
    the guy in front of you, named Juan Valdez, is the same
    person? You don't.

    I linked earlier to one of the several dozen per year US
    citizens who spent days or weeks jailed just because their
    own valid ID matches the name of a wanted person. No easy
    answer to that either. Expecting competence from government
    employees, MVD clerks to police, is more hope than plan.

    And for people not wanting to be deported, there's a rich
    selection of fake ID now, muddling an already murky situation.

    I did some three-day sentences under a fake name (wanted
    elsewhere) back in the pre computer days. You'd think modern
    technology would clear up details, what with iris scans and
    facial recognition. We're not there yet. Being _not_
    recognized as a citizen or lawful visitor or lawful resident
    alien is not yet certain enough.

    Which leaves us yet within the judgement of the LE in the
    moment. Errors will be made, both ways, regardless of policy.

    No system is perfect, but a hearing before a judge for each
    deportation is not an acceptable solution. I know there are efforts to
    do that, but that's mostly just a ruse to slow down the deportations.
    Perhaps the outcry from the wrongly arrested person's friends and
    relations is the answer. That seems to work sometimes for wrongly
    arrested and convicted citizens.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Frank Krygowski on Thu Jun 12 11:58:45 2025
    Frank Krygowski <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 2:48 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    Beej Jorgensen <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.


    My old MTB that I converted into the commute beast, did go though a stage
    of old bolts and similar slowly failing aka not staying tight!

    Which with the seat clam could be rather tedious! Which wasn’t a huge
    mileage either, but fairly rattling and the bike was 10+ years old and had >> been used properly as a MTB I guess.

    New bolts/clamps etc seem to solve it!
    For small fasteners - things like fender or rack mounting screws - I'm a
    fan of blue Loctite. But I never seem to need it for most other fasteners.


    Never had a problem with the racks though the panniers have plastic
    fittings and have spring loaded attachments though I always leave it on. Ie
    no one has stolen or shown any interest in stealing them!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Thu Jun 12 08:36:16 2025
    On 6/11/2025 7:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 5:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder  <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Mr Jorgensen brings up a real and valid concern, something for which I
    have no snappy solution.

    Let's say we're looking for Juan Valdez who has a prior deportation
    order and a felony conviction.  How do you know the guy in front of you, named Juan Valdez, is the same person?  You don't.

    I linked earlier to one of the several dozen per year US citizens who
    spent days or weeks jailed just because their own valid ID matches the
    name of a wanted person. No easy answer to that either.  Expecting competence from government employees, MVD clerks to police, is more hope
    than plan.

    And for people not wanting to be deported, there's a rich selection of
    fake ID now, muddling an already murky situation.

    I did some three-day sentences under a fake name (wanted elsewhere) back
    in the pre computer days. You'd think modern technology would clear up details, what with iris scans and facial recognition.  We're not there yet.  Being _not_ recognized as a citizen or lawful visitor or lawful resident alien is not yet certain enough.

    Which leaves us yet within the judgement of the LE in the moment. Errors
    will be made, both ways, regardless of policy.


    Wrong thread?

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    Add xx to reply

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Thu Jun 12 07:50:03 2025
    On 6/12/2025 3:32 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:05:42 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/11/2025 5:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough. And I check and >>>> lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the MTB, but I do ride >>>> it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute. Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Mr Jorgensen brings up a real and valid concern, something
    for which I have no snappy solution.

    Let's say we're looking for Juan Valdez who has a prior
    deportation order and a felony conviction. How do you know
    the guy in front of you, named Juan Valdez, is the same
    person? You don't.

    I linked earlier to one of the several dozen per year US
    citizens who spent days or weeks jailed just because their
    own valid ID matches the name of a wanted person. No easy
    answer to that either. Expecting competence from government
    employees, MVD clerks to police, is more hope than plan.

    And for people not wanting to be deported, there's a rich
    selection of fake ID now, muddling an already murky situation.

    I did some three-day sentences under a fake name (wanted
    elsewhere) back in the pre computer days. You'd think modern
    technology would clear up details, what with iris scans and
    facial recognition. We're not there yet. Being _not_
    recognized as a citizen or lawful visitor or lawful resident
    alien is not yet certain enough.

    Which leaves us yet within the judgement of the LE in the
    moment. Errors will be made, both ways, regardless of policy.

    No system is perfect, but a hearing before a judge for each
    deportation is not an acceptable solution. I know there are efforts to
    do that, but that's mostly just a ruse to slow down the deportations.
    Perhaps the outcry from the wrongly arrested person's friends and
    relations is the answer. That seems to work sometimes for wrongly
    arrested and convicted citizens.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Well, the general US public has standards. Lots of them-
    different ones for different Presidents:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deportations-court/

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to Zen Cycle on Thu Jun 12 07:54:06 2025
    On 6/12/2025 7:36 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 7:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
    On 6/11/2025 5:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:29:12 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Catrike Ryder  <[email protected]> wrote:
    I do an equipment check before every ride before I even
    top off the
    tires. Some of it evn before I unload it from the truck.

    Yeah, I'm not so thorough. :)

    Once a week I fill the tires, which seems to be enough.
    And I check and
    lube the chain every 2-4 weeks. I'll probably add more
    inspection on
    that timeframe.

    The bike doesn't take nearly the same beating as the
    MTB, but I do ride
    it down a bumpy unpaved bit at the end of every commute.
    Also the
    commute is only 5-6 miles per day, so I'm not putting
    tons of mileage
    on. (The hanger bolt fell out after 3 years, for example.)

    But, yes, more attention would have saved me the trouble.

    I've learned by experience...

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    Mr Jorgensen brings up a real and valid concern, something
    for which I have no snappy solution.

    Let's say we're looking for Juan Valdez who has a prior
    deportation order and a felony conviction.  How do you
    know the guy in front of you, named Juan Valdez, is the
    same person?  You don't.

    I linked earlier to one of the several dozen per year US
    citizens who spent days or weeks jailed just because their
    own valid ID matches the name of a wanted person. No easy
    answer to that either.  Expecting competence from
    government employees, MVD clerks to police, is more hope
    than plan.

    And for people not wanting to be deported, there's a rich
    selection of fake ID now, muddling an already murky
    situation.

    I did some three-day sentences under a fake name (wanted
    elsewhere) back in the pre computer days. You'd think
    modern technology would clear up details, what with iris
    scans and facial recognition.  We're not there yet.  Being
    _not_ recognized as a citizen or lawful visitor or lawful
    resident alien is not yet certain enough.

    Which leaves us yet within the judgement of the LE in the
    moment. Errors will be made, both ways, regardless of policy.


    Wrong thread?



    Indeed. Oops.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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