Is it your claim that citizenship can be absolutely proven by a court
any more than a forum?
You cannot argue with either an honest birth certificate or now a Real
ID. Birth Certificates are certified at the time and place of your
birth.
I have a Real ID in my pocket right now. All traveler outside of the
national boundaries has to show proof of citizenship (a passport) at
all times.
Look, I watched approximately 100 illegals vote for Obama at my local
voting place.
Do you REALLY think that anything close to a majority voted for Biden?
As I said, you CANNOT argue with a birth certificate and they are ALL computerized now. So all, you need is a time and place of birth. An
Illegal can say he is someone else. But school records and possible
military records rapidly clear that up
why would El Salvador have a warrany out in his name.
Is it your belief they have unlimited prison space?
Were it relly the case that we deported a member of MS-13 mistakenly
under mistaken identity [...] why did he have a warrany out for him in
his home country? And how did he manage to stay alive here since MS-13
kill fakers?
Are you saying you're willing to foot the bill for paying for enough
prisons to house these people until the inrvitsble "tguilty" sends them
on their way.
Those sections of the Constitution were written when the Democrats
weren't peying criminals to come to the US to practice their trade.
I'm curious to know why you think that citizens can be declared as
criminals without court trial findings?
On Thu Jun 5 19:49:36 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2025 7:07 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Jun 5 14:55:39 2025 AMuzi wrote:
On 6/5/2025 2:38 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:14:40 -0500, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
On 6/5/2025 12:59 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
No, they mnay have got a hearing when they showed that they were >>>>>> citizens, but not before.
And so you must always carry proof of citizenship 100% of the time, or
else you're deported without hearing. Don't leave home without it, kids.
I'm not advocating either way but merely being a US citizen
and walking around with no ID can get you arrested (depends
on the jurisdiction and circumstances).
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Failure-identify-police-officer.htm
https://legalclarity.org/do-you-have-to-identify-yourself-to-the-police/
There were (are?) places where no ID and "no visible means
of support" is defined as vagrancy = 3 days and a ride to
the county line. Happened to me, long ago.
Vagrancy is another thing.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
It's an unclear issue, especially that some States hand out
ID and even driving licenses to illegal aliens. US citizen
vagrants would imaginably be unable to prove identity while
standing next to a deportable illegal with valid ID.
Again I take no position on this or that but "no ID" is a
very fuzzy standard.
A driver's lisence is suppose to clearly say citizen or undocumented alien.
And you trust Shirley Weber on that??
I do not.
I trust NO ONE in the California government and my illegal but applied for US citizenship neighbor across the stree is of the same mind.Liberals. Their candidate has now relinguished his claim to the office.
We now see that the recount in Canada shows that they took the3ir lessons from Washinton, Oregon and California and simply counterfeit the electorate they need to get elected. Only Canadians are having none of it and have shown the corruption of the
I described my experience with the Democrats beinging in 50 or so illegals to vote for Obama in his second election and you seem to think election fraud perfectly OK as long as your candidate was elected. When all of the election laws were shattered touse fraud to elect Biden that too was perfectly fine with you. Your claims that no one can tell a legal from an illegal are so corrupt that you're going to accidently repeat them in front of your "friends" and discover the hard way that they are not your
On Mon Jun 23 19:58:42 2025 Beej Jorgensen wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
Liberals do stand up for each other. They even supported a liberal
politician who babbled incoherent nonsense and couldn't find his way
off the stage.
Didn't they kick him out?
In assume that is supposed to be a wiseass reference to President
Trump.
You really need more education
Brian, you're quite right. But they STILL voted for him over a
Republican.
And they looked the other way at election fraud so flagrant that it
takes people like Flunky to claim "there was not proof".
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