I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
<snip food price postings>
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
pH in Aptos
<snip food price postings>
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. >Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
pH in Aptos
<snip food price postings>
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
pH in Aptos
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have
instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: ><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> ><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
<snip food price postings>
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. >Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
pH in Aptos
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> ><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 03:26:28 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24 >>>>>> hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and >>>>>> slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the >>>>>> analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>>>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task.... >>>>>
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >>><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >>><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
Advantages of using decimal time
I asked ChatGPT 3.5(free). It produced a rather longish answer: ><https://chatgpt.com/share/683fb02e-7b2c-800c-9d5f-39e7daf40701>
I've never been able to tell time anything. Time does what it wants
to do without my help.
On 2025-06-03, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24
hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and
slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour
timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the
analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task....
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
Thanks to Frank and Jeff....I think a decimal clock on the wall would be a >cool conversation piece at any rate...
pH
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 19:41:10 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 03:26:28 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24 >>>>>>> hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and >>>>>>> slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>>>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>>>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>>>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of
course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour >>>>>>> timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the >>>>>>> analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times.
Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have >>>>>> instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task.... >>>>>>
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >>>><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >>>><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
Advantages of using decimal time
I asked ChatGPT 3.5(free). It produced a rather longish answer: >><https://chatgpt.com/share/683fb02e-7b2c-800c-9d5f-39e7daf40701>
I've never been able to tell time anything. Time does what it wants
to do without my help.
That answer has errors. Computers do not "favor" decimal arithmatic.
On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 18:28:01 -0000 (UTC), pH <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks to Frank and Jeff....I think a decimal clock on the wall would be a >>cool conversation piece at any rate...
pH
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 04:59:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 18:28:01 -0000 (UTC), pH <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks to Frank and Jeff....I think a decimal clock on the wall would be a >>>cool conversation piece at any rate...
pH
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
One of my former customers was a collector of clocks. He had
collection of antique wooden clocks dating back in the middle ages. He
also collected a few water clocks and clocks with odd displays. I
helped repair a binary clock with neon lights, an analog clock that
ran backwards, early clock simulations on the original IBM 5150 PC,
and other oddities. I don't recall if he had a decimal clock.
My first attempt at displaying an analog clock was written in Turbo
Pascal and was on display in the window of a local computer store for
about a year. People would walk by and set their wristwatches by the >indicated time. I didn't have the heart to tell them that the IBM PC
RTC was a rather inaccurate and not very temperature stable time base.
Odd clocks
<https://www.google.com/search?q=odd%20clocks&udm=2>
Yes, there are people who talk about clocks.
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 04:39:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 19:41:10 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 03:26:28 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24 >>>>>>>> hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and >>>>>>>> slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all >>>>>>>> but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in >>>>>>>> today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the >>>>>>>> 12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of >>>>>>>> course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour >>>>>>>> timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the >>>>>>>> analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. >>>>>>> Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have
instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task.... >>>>>>>
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >>>>><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >>>>><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
Advantages of using decimal time
I asked ChatGPT 3.5(free). It produced a rather longish answer: >>><https://chatgpt.com/share/683fb02e-7b2c-800c-9d5f-39e7daf40701>
I've never been able to tell time anything. Time does what it wants
to do without my help.
That answer has errors. Computers do not "favor" decimal arithmatic.
I beg to differ. Most CPU's support IEEE 754-2008 Decimal
Floating-Point Arithmetic. ><https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/tool/intel-decimal-floating-point-math-library.html>
"Software implementation of the IEEE 754-2008 Decimal Floating-Point >Arithmetic specification, aimed at financial applications, especially
in cases where legal requirements make it necessary to use decimal,
and not binary floating-point arithmetic (as computation performed
with binary floating-point operations may introduce small, but
unacceptable errors)."
There was a short time, in the 1960's, when I was receiving interest
payments from my bank, with rounding errors.
"IEEE-754 Floating Point Converter" ><https://www.h-schmidt.net/FloatConverter/IEEE754.html>
Rounding errors, when going from binary to floating point, is a common >problem found in calculations that extend to a large number of decimal >digits, such as weather calculations. See the part about weather >calculations:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rounding-error.asp>
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
Yes, obviously.
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:Yes, except you, because you're willfully ignorant.
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
On 6/4/2025 3:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:Yes, except you, because you're willfully ignorant.
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
That, plus from what he's posted here, he's too timid to engage in much >conversation. His excuse is that conversation isn't interesting, but how >would he know without conversing?
Also note that he's quite passionate about posting his ignorant opinions
here - where it's "safe" and he doesn't actually have to deal with
people face to face. Because face to face interaction is so scary!
Related: >https://www.6sqft.com/chatting-with-strangers-on-your-morning-commute-will-make-you-happier-study-says/
But it only makes one happier if they can summon the nerve! ;-)
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:01:06 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 04:39:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 19:41:10 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 03:26:28 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24 >>>>>>>>> hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and >>>>>>>>> slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once >>>>>>>>> you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of >>>>>>>>> course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour >>>>>>>>> timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one. >>>>>>>>>
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog >>>>>>>>> and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the >>>>>>>>> analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. >>>>>>>> Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have
instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task.... >>>>>>>>
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >>>>>><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >>>>>><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
Advantages of using decimal time
I asked ChatGPT 3.5(free). It produced a rather longish answer: >>>><https://chatgpt.com/share/683fb02e-7b2c-800c-9d5f-39e7daf40701>
I've never been able to tell time anything. Time does what it wants
to do without my help.
That answer has errors. Computers do not "favor" decimal arithmatic.
I beg to differ. Most CPU's support IEEE 754-2008 Decimal
Floating-Point Arithmetic. >><https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/tool/intel-decimal-floating-point-math-library.html>
"Software implementation of the IEEE 754-2008 Decimal Floating-Point >>Arithmetic specification, aimed at financial applications, especially
in cases where legal requirements make it necessary to use decimal,
and not binary floating-point arithmetic (as computation performed
with binary floating-point operations may introduce small, but
unacceptable errors)."
There was a short time, in the 1960's, when I was receiving interest >>payments from my bank, with rounding errors.
"IEEE-754 Floating Point Converter" >><https://www.h-schmidt.net/FloatConverter/IEEE754.html>
Rounding errors, when going from binary to floating point, is a common >>problem found in calculations that extend to a large number of decimal >>digits, such as weather calculations. See the part about weather >>calculations:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rounding-error.asp>
I'm sure you know that all computers function in variations of binary.
They have to convert to decimal for humans.
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 12:37:22 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:01:06 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 04:39:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>><[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 19:41:10 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>>wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2025 03:26:28 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 23:59:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]> >>>>>>wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/2/2025 12:02 PM, pH wrote:
<snip food price postings>It may be too easy for Jeff.
I opted for digital watches when my job required that I think in 24 >>>>>>>>>> hour time with minute to minute acccuracy, which is much harder and >>>>>>>>>> slower to do with an analong timepiece. I have several watches and all
but my old Scuba Dive watch are on digital 24 hour time, because once
you use 24 hour time, you see how ridiculous 12 hour timekeeping is in
today's world. It is, however, hard to convince people who've used the
12 hour time all their lives.
I understand why 12 hour time first came into being. It was, of >>>>>>>>>> course, long before digital clocks and watches. An analog 24 hour >>>>>>>>>> timepiece is harder and slower to read accurately than a 12 hour one.
The later system operations control rooms I worked in had both analog
and a digital 24 hour clocks, but nobody paid any attention to the >>>>>>>>>> analog clocks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
And I wonder whey we have these weird 12 hour sixty minute times. >>>>>>>>> Babylonians?
I would have thought that when the MKS system came along they would have
instituted
10 hour days
100 minutes per hour and
100 seconds per minute
to go along with meters, kilograms and seconds....
But I think the societal re-tooling would be far too great a task.... >>>>>>>>>
(cue Jeff L's fabulous research skills...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Thanks. I forgot to look.
Notice that Decimal Analog Clocks and watches are available: >>>>>>><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22decimal%22%20clock&num=10&udm=2> >>>>>>><https://svalbard24.com/DECIMAL-WATCHES-c137983753>
I don't see any advantrage to using decimal time.
Advantages of using decimal time
I asked ChatGPT 3.5(free). It produced a rather longish answer: >>>>><https://chatgpt.com/share/683fb02e-7b2c-800c-9d5f-39e7daf40701>
I've never been able to tell time anything. Time does what it wants >>>>>to do without my help.
That answer has errors. Computers do not "favor" decimal arithmatic.
I beg to differ. Most CPU's support IEEE 754-2008 Decimal
Floating-Point Arithmetic. >>><https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/tool/intel-decimal-floating-point-math-library.html>
"Software implementation of the IEEE 754-2008 Decimal Floating-Point >>>Arithmetic specification, aimed at financial applications, especially
in cases where legal requirements make it necessary to use decimal,
and not binary floating-point arithmetic (as computation performed
with binary floating-point operations may introduce small, but >>>unacceptable errors)."
There was a short time, in the 1960's, when I was receiving interest >>>payments from my bank, with rounding errors.
"IEEE-754 Floating Point Converter" >>><https://www.h-schmidt.net/FloatConverter/IEEE754.html>
Rounding errors, when going from binary to floating point, is a common >>>problem found in calculations that extend to a large number of decimal >>>digits, such as weather calculations. See the part about weather >>>calculations:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rounding-error.asp>
I'm sure you know that all computers function in variations of binary.
They have to convert to decimal for humans.
Not all computers. Today's home and SBC (small business computers)
use an ALU (arithmetic logic unit) to perform bit wise arithmetic on
integer binary numbers. They also include an FPU (floating point
unit) which operates on floating point numbers (per IEEE 754-2008).
Then, there is quantum computing. It uses qubits, which can be 0, 1,
or both at the same time. I'll pretend to understand how it works.
There's also tri state logic: ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-state_logic>
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 17:20:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/4/2025 3:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:Yes, except you, because you're willfully ignorant.
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
That, plus from what he's posted here, he's too timid to engage in much
conversation. His excuse is that conversation isn't interesting, but how
would he know without conversing?
I hear people conversing about insignificant stuff. Religion, sports, politics, Everybody's opinions, and they bore me. Nothing there for me
to process, which is pretty much what heppens here on RBT.
I dealt with many people face to face. Electric company presidents,Well, look at you! :-)
and other VPs came to office many times to ask about the software I
was writing for them. In the end, before I left, I put on a catered
show to explain how it worked. There were over 40 people there from
companies from three states.
After I retired, I put together a Karaoke and entertainment shows for weddings, parties and such where I played the chord organ and sang.
On 6/4/2025 5:58 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 17:20:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/4/2025 3:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:Yes, except you, because you're willfully ignorant.
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
That, plus from what he's posted here, he's too timid to engage in much
conversation. His excuse is that conversation isn't interesting, but how >>> would he know without conversing?
I hear people conversing about insignificant stuff. Religion, sports,
politics, Everybody's opinions, and they bore me. Nothing there for me
to process, which is pretty much what heppens here on RBT.
:-) But you seemed to think it would be fascinating for us to hear
about your Made-In-China barbecue grill!
Another explanation for your avoidance of people occurs to me. You may
have gotten frustrated by years of people yawning at your conversation >attempts, and turned aside with hurt feelings.
But I still think timidity and fear are your main motivators.
I dealt with many people face to face. Electric company presidents,Well, look at you! :-)
and other VPs came to office many times to ask about the software I
was writing for them. In the end, before I left, I put on a catered
show to explain how it worked. There were over 40 people there from
companies from three states.
After I retired, I put together a Karaoke and entertainment shows for
weddings, parties and such where I played the chord organ and sang.
On 6/5/2025 4:14 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 00:23:17 -0400, Frank KrygowskiNope. I don't believe you "actually did" that. I don't believe you can
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/4/2025 5:58 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 17:20:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/4/2025 3:34 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 6/4/2025 4:59 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:Yes, except you, because you're willfully ignorant.
Does anyone ever really talk about conversation pieces?
That, plus from what he's posted here, he's too timid to engage in much >>>>> conversation. His excuse is that conversation isn't interesting, but how >>>>> would he know without conversing?
I hear people conversing about insignificant stuff. Religion, sports,
politics, Everybody's opinions, and they bore me. Nothing there for me >>>> to process, which is pretty much what heppens here on RBT.
:-) But you seemed to think it would be fascinating for us to hear
about your Made-In-China barbecue grill!
Actually, it's a griddle, not a grill.
As for being fascinating, it's something I actually did rather than
your made up story about your imaginary gun designing "friend."
sing or play even a chord organ. I don't believe you own either a
griddle or a grill.
You're the one who always demands documentation and proof, but you've
given none. (A photo of some guy holding a microphone isn't proof.)
So you're not meeting your own standards. Such internal inconsistency is
a sign of logical weakness at best, and outright lies at worst.
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