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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 26 19:51:16 2025
    On Wed Mar 26 15:17:42 2025 Zen Cycle wrote:
    On 3/26/2025 11:53 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Mar 25 23:15:20 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 3/25/2025 12:36 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Mar 25 10:36:01 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:

    First, I don't know that's true. Based on your claims here, I think my >>>> typical riding speed is faster than yours. I'm sure I couldn't keep up >>>> with Zen or Mark, but I suspect most of us old guys here would ride at >>>> similar speeds. I know that on the club rides I attend (I'm typically >>>> the oldest of the attendees) I usually finish in the front half of the >>>> group, and often first. Not that they're races. I just enjoy speeding up >>>> at times.

    Not that it matters. I dispute the implication that faster riders
    naturally crash more. It takes miles of riding to get fast, and people >>>> with miles of experience tend to be more skillful.

    You may be an exception.




    Frank, obviously you do not ride with a Garmin and believe that my claim of riding an average soeed of 11 mph is slow.

    You're right. I don't use a Garmin. I still use ordinary cyclometers - a >> couple Avocets that I've managed to keep running, and a couple Cateyes,
    etc. They give me average speed. 11 mph _is_ slow. I don't think I've
    ever averaged that slow unless on a recreation ride with my wife,
    grandkids or a good friend who is quite slow.




    Those meters only sverage moving speed.

    No, they don't, dumbass. Autostop was on option on the better models up
    until the early 90's. Most models only captured total time, not moving
    time. If Frank has an older model it's more likely it only capture total time, so if he's seeing faster than 11 with total time, he's likely
    going faster than you.

    You are supposed to be an engineer and you don't understand the effects of stop lights and a 30-45 minute pause at a coffee shop on a meter that measures average speed from total time from turning the meter on?

    It's settable on your garmin, so you have that off, and 11 is about
    right if you average in all the stops, but why would you want to average
    in all your stops? You can get both moving time and total time on your display at the time.

    All I can say is that you're some kind of engineer.

    Yup, actually a professor of Mechanical Engineering




    You and Frank are welcome to come down here and try to ride with us. Why you can show us the kind of endurance it takes to rise 2, 200 mile days with an average speed of 20 mph.

    But you're nothing but a Fred. And your "professor of mechanical engineering" can demonstrade that terrific 54 mph so that we all know what he is talking about.

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