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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 16:36:20 2025
    On Sun Jan 19 16:04:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:46:35 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seattle attorney Brandon Mayfield has a different opinion on
    that 60% match.

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-brandon-mayfield-case

    The press release was dated May 24, 2004. Fingerprint technology has probably improved in the last 21 years.

    I suspect that obtaining a single fingerprint from a plastic bag is
    probably less reliable than a smartphone scanner.




    The idiot says "I suspect". Liebermann you know absolutely nothing. Why are you even denying the comments of someone that has actually done this sort of thing?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 16:52:19 2025
    On Sun Jan 19 18:44:47 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:46:35 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seattle attorney Brandon Mayfield has a different opinion on
    that 60% match.

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-brandon-mayfield-case

    The press release was dated May 24, 2004. Fingerprint technology has probably improved in the last 21 years.

    I suspect that obtaining a single fingerprint from a plastic bag is probably less reliable than a smartphone scanner.


    Yes, but the case was so egregious I remembered it.




    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint. These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.
    If you are arrested you have all of your fingerprints taken and it is not electronic but the old ink and paper method. These are cataloged through rather powerful computers.

    Liebermann with all of the intelligence of a clam wants you to believe that a smartphone can recognize a fingerpriunt with 93% accuracy in a small fraction of a second.

    It is things like this that caused him to never hold an engineering position. Not to mention that he must have really alienated someone to never have gotten a recommendation at the QC job he started at. QC people are not well thought off and are at the
    bottom of the heap. If he couldn't get a recommendation from that he must have been really incompetent.*

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 16:55:34 2025
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D
    in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the best protection on the market.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 16:57:41 2025
    On Sun Jan 19 22:19:05 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 6:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D
    in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>

    And yet again - page not found.

    ?

    Yet again, both links work for me. I don't know what you keep doing
    wrong, Tom. Isn't there someone who can show you how to follow a link?




    Frank, I could are less if you're having all of your personal information hacked by the Chinese. But don't tell me I'm doing something wrong when you understand nothing.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 16:59:16 2025
    On Sun Jan 19 19:08:22 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:58:55 -0300, Shadow <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:25:26 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D >>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Biden made it available to unlawful extraterrestrials only, so
    I can see it perfectly in Brazil

    //Certified Products List

    Data last updated: 1/16/2025

    The products listed are certified by the FBI as tested and in
    compliance with the FBI's Next Generation Identification (NGI) Image >Quality Specifications (IQS). The review of the test data was
    conducted by the FBI?s Criminal Justice Information Services Division.
    The certification process is not intended to endorse one product over
    a competitor's product but merely to certify the product meets FBI
    Image Quality standards. //

    After Trump takes office all the links will work for Americans
    again.

    That won't help Tom. My guess(tm) is that Tom has a list of left
    wing, Democrat, perversive, fact checking, parental control, and other
    sites that Tom finds distracting or distressing. He probably has site blocking software running on his personal mainframe or whatever he's
    using. Something like this:
    <https://blocksite.co>
    Or, he might be stuffed his list of disagreeable sites into his
    Windows DNS hosts[1] file and sending them to /dev/null[2]. <https://blocksite.co/blog/digital-mindfulness/most-blocked-sites>


    [1] For Windows, it's located at:
    C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts <https://www.liquidweb.com/blog/dns-hosts-file/>

    [2] /dev/null is the bottomless black hole at the base of Cull Canyon,
    where the politically disagreeable are dumped and buried in "deep
    mud".




    Your "guess" - luckily you don't have any bank accounts to empty.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 14:27:06 2025
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:08:22 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 20:58:55 -0300, Shadow <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:25:26 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D >>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Biden made it available to unlawful extraterrestrials only, so
    I can see it perfectly in Brazil

    //Certified Products List

    Data last updated: 1/16/2025

    The products listed are certified by the FBI as tested and in
    compliance with the FBI's Next Generation Identification (NGI) Image >>Quality Specifications (IQS). The review of the test data was
    conducted by the FBI�s Criminal Justice Information Services Division.
    The certification process is not intended to endorse one product over
    a competitor's product but merely to certify the product meets FBI
    Image Quality standards. //

    After Trump takes office all the links will work for Americans
    again.

    That won't help Tom. My guess(tm) is that Tom has a list of left
    wing, Democrat, perversive, fact checking, parental control, and other
    sites that Tom finds distracting or distressing. He probably has site >blocking software running on his personal mainframe or whatever he's
    using. Something like this:
    <https://blocksite.co>
    Or, he might be stuffed his list of disagreeable sites into his
    Windows DNS hosts[1] file and sending them to /dev/null[2]. ><https://blocksite.co/blog/digital-mindfulness/most-blocked-sites>


    [1] For Windows, it's located at:
    C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts ><https://www.liquidweb.com/blog/dns-hosts-file/>

    [2] /dev/null is the bottomless black hole at the base of Cull Canyon,
    where the politically disagreeable are dumped and buried in "deep
    mud".

    I'm familiar with C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts(and
    /etc/hosts for Linux).
    It's what I use to stop Firefox from calling home with my
    Unique_ID.
    I somewhat doubt Tom has any idea what that is.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Mon Jan 20 11:40:03 2025
    On 1/20/2025 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D >>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the best protection on the market.

    Which posits a conundrum- Which is worse, the disease or the
    cure?

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From AMuzi@21:1/5 to cyclintom on Mon Jan 20 11:38:27 2025
    On 1/20/2025 10:52 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:44:47 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:46:35 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    Seattle attorney Brandon Mayfield has a different opinion on
    that 60% match.

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-brandon-mayfield-case

    The press release was dated May 24, 2004. Fingerprint technology has
    probably improved in the last 21 years.

    I suspect that obtaining a single fingerprint from a plastic bag is
    probably less reliable than a smartphone scanner.


    Yes, but the case was so egregious I remembered it.




    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint. These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.
    If you are arrested you have all of your fingerprints taken and it is not electronic but the old ink and paper method. These are cataloged through rather powerful computers.

    Liebermann with all of the intelligence of a clam wants you to believe that a smartphone can recognize a fingerpriunt with 93% accuracy in a small fraction of a second.

    It is things like this that caused him to never hold an engineering position. Not to mention that he must have really alienated someone to never have gotten a recommendation at the QC job he started at. QC people are not well thought off and are at the
    bottom of the heap. If he couldn't get a recommendation from that he must have been really incompetent.*

    California DMV requires a fingerprint for driving license?
    Not here in WI.

    Attorneys, however, are fingerprinted for their law license
    in most (all?) States, along with many other professional
    licenses including bartenders, insurance agents, public
    school teachers and more.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    [email protected]
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 14:53:26 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:55:34 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem. If
    it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have?
    An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea. How about a Korean company with R&D
    in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the best protection on the market.

    It's not. Kaspersky is far better.
    If BitDefender is blocking FBI sites,(or even Wikipedia TEXT
    sites) I'd uninstall it. You've been haxxored.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 09:56:49 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:52:19 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint. These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.

    I renewed my drivers license at the Capitola DMV 2 months ago. They
    used a machine like this to do a "live scan": <https://anshinotary.com/your-complete-guideline-about-live-scan-fingerprinting/>
    I didn't check how long it took, but my guess(tm) is about 3 minutes
    most of which was the clerk typing something into the computer while I
    was doing battle with the eye exam.

    I haven't seen any smartphones or laptops that scan 4 fingers at a
    time, so this doesn't really apply to your problems with your Samsung
    cell phone. Have you run the Samsung fingerprint reader diagnostics
    yet? Have you washed your hand yet? <https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00092382/>

    If you are arrested you have all of your fingerprints taken and it is not electronic but the old ink and paper method. These are cataloged through rather powerful computers.

    I haven't been arrested recently, so I would know. I'll concede the
    point to someone like you with superior personal experience.

    Liebermann with all of the intelligence of a clam wants you to believe that a smartphone can recognize a fingerpriunt with 93% accuracy in a small fraction of a second.

    I never mentioned the time it takes to scan a finger on my phone. My
    guess is about 1 second minimum or longer if I have try several times.

    It is things like this that caused him to never hold an engineering position. Not to mention that he must have really alienated someone to never have gotten a recommendation at the QC job he started at. QC people are not well thought off and are at the
    bottom of the heap. If he couldn't get a recommendation from that he must have been really incompetent.*

    I'm currently retired. I've never worked in QC. All my employment
    and consulting jobs were the result of personal recommendations by
    someone who was working at the company.

    --
    Jeff Liebermann [email protected]
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From zen cycle@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 13:30:14 2025
    On 1/20/2025 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem.  If >>>>> it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have? >>>>> An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea.  How about a Korean company with R&D >>>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the
    best protection on the market.

    Hey dumbass. If BitDefender was blocking them it would tell you it was
    blocking them then give you to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't
    say "file not found".

    IOW, you're simply fucking up as usual.

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  • From Catrike Ryder@21:1/5 to AMuzi on Mon Jan 20 13:35:16 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:38:27 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 10:52 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:44:47 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:46:35 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>
    Seattle attorney Brandon Mayfield has a different opinion on
    that 60% match.

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-brandon-mayfield-case

    The press release was dated May 24, 2004. Fingerprint technology has
    probably improved in the last 21 years.

    I suspect that obtaining a single fingerprint from a plastic bag is
    probably less reliable than a smartphone scanner.


    Yes, but the case was so egregious I remembered it.




    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint. These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.
    If you are arrested you have all of your fingerprints taken and it is not electronic but the old ink and paper method. These are cataloged through rather powerful computers.

    Liebermann with all of the intelligence of a clam wants you to believe that a smartphone can recognize a fingerpriunt with 93% accuracy in a small fraction of a second.

    It is things like this that caused him to never hold an engineering position. Not to mention that he must have really alienated someone to never have gotten a recommendation at the QC job he started at. QC people are not well thought off and are at
    the bottom of the heap. If he couldn't get a recommendation from that he must have been really incompetent.*

    California DMV requires a fingerprint for driving license?
    Not here in WI.

    Attorneys, however, are fingerprinted for their law license
    in most (all?) States, along with many other professional
    licenses including bartenders, insurance agents, public
    school teachers and more.

    No fingerprints for drivers licence in Florida, either, but they do
    take them for the carry permits.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 20 11:41:55 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:56:49 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 16:52:19 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint. These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.

    I renewed my drivers license at the Capitola DMV 2 months ago. They
    used a machine like this to do a "live scan": ><https://anshinotary.com/your-complete-guideline-about-live-scan-fingerprinting/>
    I didn't check how long it took, but my guess(tm) is about 3 minutes
    most of which was the clerk typing something into the computer while I
    was doing battle with the eye exam.

    Oops. Memory fault (again). If I wait long enough, my recollection
    eventually comes back.

    When I renewed my CA drivers license, they only electronically scanned
    my right thumb. The "live scan" probably came from my reading about
    the topic a few days ago. However, I do vaguely recall that it took
    about 3 minutes. Also, my thumb was scanned twice. Once when I went
    to the counter to have the clerk check my documents and again at a
    different counter and different clerk to take my photographs and
    fingerprints. I presume they wanted to know if the fingerprint scan
    worked and that I didn't substitute someone else for photos and
    fingerprints.

    In 1983 through 1986, mandatory fingerprinting was challenged in the
    State Supreme Court. Perkey v. Department of Motor Vehicles 1986. The
    appeal eventually failed: <https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1837984.html>

    Sorry for the confusion.


    --
    Jeff Liebermann [email protected]
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 20 11:55:53 2025
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:30:14 -0500, zen cycle
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi� wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann� wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi� wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem.� If >>>>>> it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have? >>>>>> An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea.� How about a Korean company with R&D >>>>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the
    best protection on the market.

    Hey dumbass. If BitDefender was blocking them it would tell you it was >blocking them then give you to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't
    say "file not found".

    If BitOffender was looking a web page on the internet, it would say
    "404 Site No Found" or something similar. Web pages and documents are
    quite different.

    IOW, you're simply fucking up as usual.

    Close. I think he's lying (as usual). Somehow, I'm being accused of
    posting a link that Tom cannot view, or maybe tampering with the web
    site, or maybe even tampering with his computer. Those are not going
    to happen. For example, if I post:
    <https://www.google.com>
    Tom would likely claim that he can't find Google. Anyway, I'm not
    worried because I don't think there's anyone reading rec.bicycles.tech
    that believes anything that Tom writes.






    --
    Jeff Liebermann [email protected]
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
    Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Merriman@21:1/5 to Catrike Ryder on Tue Jan 21 11:37:01 2025
    Catrike Ryder <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:38:27 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 10:52 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:44:47 2025 AMuzi wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 6:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:46:35 -0600, AMuzi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>
    Seattle attorney Brandon Mayfield has a different opinion on
    that 60% match.

    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-on-brandon-mayfield-case

    The press release was dated May 24, 2004. Fingerprint technology has >>>>> probably improved in the last 21 years.

    I suspect that obtaining a single fingerprint from a plastic bag is
    probably less reliable than a smartphone scanner.


    Yes, but the case was so egregious I remembered it.




    If you go into a DMV for a license you have to submit a fingerprint.
    These detectors are run by a full powered desktop computer and usually
    require about 15 seconds minimum to catalog a SINGLE fingeprint.
    If you are arrested you have all of your fingerprints taken and it is
    not electronic but the old ink and paper method. These are cataloged
    through rather powerful computers.

    Liebermann with all of the intelligence of a clam wants you to believe
    that a smartphone can recognize a fingerpriunt with 93% accuracy in a
    small fraction of a second.

    It is things like this that caused him to never hold an engineering
    position. Not to mention that he must have really alienated someone to
    never have gotten a recommendation at the QC job he started at. QC
    people are not well thought off and are at the bottom of the heap. If
    he couldn't get a recommendation from that he must have been really incompetent.*

    California DMV requires a fingerprint for driving license?
    Not here in WI.

    Attorneys, however, are fingerprinted for their law license
    in most (all?) States, along with many other professional
    licenses including bartenders, insurance agents, public
    school teachers and more.

    No fingerprints for drivers licence in Florida, either, but they do
    take them for the carry permits.

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    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Nor in UK I think connected biometric data to it and the passport would
    have a hard time, passing that legislation and is overkill!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Zen Cycle@21:1/5 to Jeff Liebermann on Tue Jan 21 09:22:16 2025
    On 1/20/2025 2:55 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:30:14 -0500, zen cycle
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem.  If >>>>>>> it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have? >>>>>>> An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea.  How about a Korean company with R&D >>>>>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the
    best protection on the market.

    Hey dumbass. If BitDefender was blocking them it would tell you it was
    blocking them then give you to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't
    say "file not found".

    If BitOffender was looking a web page on the internet, it would say
    "404 Site No Found" or something similar. Web pages and documents are
    quite different.

    that's nitpicking. Whether his browser displays "file not found", "page
    not found", "site not found", "page/site/file/ not available" or
    whatever ever message would indicate the the link doesn't direct to the intended file, website, or page, is completely irrelevant. If
    BitDefender was blocking them it would tell him it was blocking them
    then give him to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't say "[whatever]
    not found".


    IOW, you're simply fucking up as usual.

    Close. I think he's lying (as usual). Somehow, I'm being accused of
    posting a link that Tom cannot view, or maybe tampering with the web
    site, or maybe even tampering with his computer. Those are not going
    to happen. For example, if I post:
    <https://www.google.com>
    Tom would likely claim that he can't find Google. Anyway, I'm not
    worried because I don't think there's anyone reading rec.bicycles.tech
    that believes anything that Tom writes.

    +1










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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 21 11:03:24 2025
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:22:16 -0500, Zen Cycle <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 2:55 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:30:14 -0500, zen cycle
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 1/20/2025 10:55 AM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sun Jan 19 18:39:57 2025 AMuzi� wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 5:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat Jan 18 20:46:38 2025 Jeff Liebermann� wrote:
    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:02:07 GMT, cyclintom <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On Sat Jan 18 14:43:14 2025 AMuzi� wrote:
    Or by vector pattern matching:
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4350704

    I would have a real problem using Chinese security measures.

    I guess "would have" means you're not currently having a problem.� If >>>>>>>> it's not a "real problem", what other type of problem might you have? >>>>>>>> An un-real problem perhaps?

    You bought a phone made in Korea.� How about a Korean company with R&D >>>>>>>> in Arizona?
    <https://integratedbiometrics.com>
    They're also FBI certified.
    "Certified Products List"
    <https://fbibiospecs.fbi.gov/certifications-1/cpl>




    And yet again - page not found.

    Both links pop right up for me.




    Then ask yourself why my BitDefender blocks them. BitDefender is the >>>>> best protection on the market.

    Hey dumbass. If BitDefender was blocking them it would tell you it was
    blocking them then give you to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't
    say "file not found".

    If BitOffender was looking a web page on the internet, it would say
    "404 Site No Found" or something similar. Web pages and documents are
    quite different.

    that's nitpicking.

    Well, yes. It's a minor detail but one which is a good indication
    that what Tom allegedly saw on the screen is quite different from what
    Tom claimed he saw. I should probably install BitOffender on one of
    my machines and see what it actually produced when a site or web page
    is blocked.
    "How to stop "Suspicious connection blocked" notifications' <https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/2471/>

    Whether his browser displays "file not found", "page
    not found", "site not found", "page/site/file/ not available" or
    whatever ever message would indicate the the link doesn't direct to the >intended file, website, or page, is completely irrelevant.

    Not completely irrelevant, but sufficient to demonstrate that Tom was
    probably lying (as usual).

    If
    BitDefender was blocking them it would tell him it was blocking them
    then give him to option to bypass the block. It wouldn't say "[whatever]
    not found".

    Yep. It seems to be quite good at providing instructions on what to
    do next. I don't use BitDefender, so I'm not familiar with the
    procedure.


    IOW, you're simply fucking up as usual.

    Close. I think he's lying (as usual). Somehow, I'm being accused of
    posting a link that Tom cannot view, or maybe tampering with the web
    site, or maybe even tampering with his computer. Those are not going
    to happen. For example, if I post:
    <https://www.google.com>
    Tom would likely claim that he can't find Google. Anyway, I'm not
    worried because I don't think there's anyone reading rec.bicycles.tech
    that believes anything that Tom writes.

    +1


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