Today I tried unsuccessfully to update my ClearNav II with a newI have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the ClearNav download.
data.fln file for correlating ICAO ID to contest call signs.
According to the ClearNav website, it's a simple matter of placing a
file, data.fln, downloaded from the flarmnet website into the Flarmnet folder on the ClearNav USB stick and having the ClearNavUpdater.exe file
in the root of the USB stick, then powering on the device.
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a ClearNavUpdater.cnx file. I assume that's an executable file in the
Windoze realtime system which runs the ClearNav.
But my ClearNav does not boot from the USB stick as it should and has in
the past. Thinking there might be a problem with my USB stick, I
borrowed one from another pilot at Moriarty who maintains various glide computers on the airport. His USB stick would not boot on my ClearNav, either. The indication I see is the hour glass icon for a few seconds
then there's a small "Beep" from the speaker, and then the ClearNav
boots as though there was no USB connected.
I have tried using USB sticks generated on a Linux computer, an Apple computer, and a Windows 10 computer. All acted the same way. I thought
there may be a faulty USB connection, but I was able to download a
flight to the USB drive.
Maybe there is a cable fault which allows download a file from the
device but not booting from the USB. I was half way home from the
airport before realizing that I could unplug my panel mounted USB port
and plugging my USB stick directly into the USB port on the back of the ClearNav. I'll try that tomorrow.
Have I left out anything? Can anyone make a suggestion? The ClearNav
forum seems to have disappeared with their new website and I haven't
seen anything from T8 in quite a while.
--
Dan
5J
On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 7:13:44 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
Today I tried unsuccessfully to update my ClearNav II with a new
data.fln file for correlating ICAO ID to contest call signs.
According to the ClearNav website, it's a simple matter of placing a
file, data.fln, downloaded from the flarmnet website into the Flarmnet folder on the ClearNav USB stick and having the ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the root of the USB stick, then powering on the device.
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a ClearNavUpdater.cnx file. I assume that's an executable file in the Windoze realtime system which runs the ClearNav.
But my ClearNav does not boot from the USB stick as it should and has in the past. Thinking there might be a problem with my USB stick, I
borrowed one from another pilot at Moriarty who maintains various glide computers on the airport. His USB stick would not boot on my ClearNav, either. The indication I see is the hour glass icon for a few seconds
then there's a small "Beep" from the speaker, and then the ClearNav
boots as though there was no USB connected.
I have tried using USB sticks generated on a Linux computer, an Apple computer, and a Windows 10 computer. All acted the same way. I thought there may be a faulty USB connection, but I was able to download a
flight to the USB drive.
Maybe there is a cable fault which allows download a file from the
device but not booting from the USB. I was half way home from the
airport before realizing that I could unplug my panel mounted USB port
and plugging my USB stick directly into the USB port on the back of the ClearNav. I'll try that tomorrow.
Have I left out anything? Can anyone make a suggestion? The ClearNavI have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the ClearNav download.
forum seems to have disappeared with their new website and I haven't
seen anything from T8 in quite a while.
--
Dan
5J
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
Today I tried unsuccessfully to update my ClearNav II with a newDan, what size stick are you using??? Try a 8gig stick and it probably will load. OBTP
data.fln file for correlating ICAO ID to contest call signs.
According to the ClearNav website, it's a simple matter of placing a
file, data.fln, downloaded from the flarmnet website into the Flarmnet folder on the ClearNav USB stick and having the ClearNavUpdater.exe file
in the root of the USB stick, then powering on the device.
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a ClearNavUpdater.cnx file. I assume that's an executable file in the
Windoze realtime system which runs the ClearNav.
But my ClearNav does not boot from the USB stick as it should and has in
the past. Thinking there might be a problem with my USB stick, I
borrowed one from another pilot at Moriarty who maintains various glide computers on the airport. His USB stick would not boot on my ClearNav, either. The indication I see is the hour glass icon for a few seconds
then there's a small "Beep" from the speaker, and then the ClearNav
boots as though there was no USB connected.
I have tried using USB sticks generated on a Linux computer, an Apple computer, and a Windows 10 computer. All acted the same way. I thought
there may be a faulty USB connection, but I was able to download a
flight to the USB drive.
Maybe there is a cable fault which allows download a file from the
device but not booting from the USB. I was half way home from the
airport before realizing that I could unplug my panel mounted USB port
and plugging my USB stick directly into the USB port on the back of the ClearNav. I'll try that tomorrow.
Have I left out anything? Can anyone make a suggestion? The ClearNav
forum seems to have disappeared with their new website and I haven't
seen anything from T8 in quite a while.
--
Dan
5J
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the ClearNav download.
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a
ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd probably
have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it might not
transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been.
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to no avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the house, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams Soaring and, of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet and I have not yet
found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it or a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a
ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
ClearNav download.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that
had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
Another thought just occurred: My USB stick is formatted as NTFS, could
it be that it should be FAT32? I'll check that out today, as well.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:05, Dan Marotta wrote:
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd probably
have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it might not
transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been.
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to no
avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the house,
Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams Soaring and,
of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet and I have not
yet found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it or a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a >>>> ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
ClearNav download.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that
had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
Just spoke with Williams Soaring. He told me that it might simply be
the stick that I was using was too slow to respond during attempted boot up. I've located the stick I always used to use. It was inserted in my
TV so I reformatted it and will try again this afternoon.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:23, Dan Marotta wrote:
Another thought just occurred: My USB stick is formatted as NTFS,
could it be that it should be FAT32? I'll check that out today, as well. >>
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:05, Dan Marotta wrote:
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd
probably have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it might
not transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been.
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to no
avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the
house, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams
Soaring and, of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet
and I have not yet found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it or
a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There IS a >>>>> ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
ClearNav download.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that
had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
That stick worked!
But, as a retired Systems Engineer, I gotta say, it would be better to
change the boot time out to account for slower USB sticks rather than
making everyone find one that works out of a handful around the house
and hangar.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 11:04, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just spoke with Williams Soaring. He told me that it might simply be
the stick that I was using was too slow to respond during attempted
boot up. I've located the stick I always used to use. It was
inserted in my TV so I reformatted it and will try again this afternoon.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:23, Dan Marotta wrote:
Another thought just occurred: My USB stick is formatted as NTFS,
could it be that it should be FAT32? I'll check that out today, as
well.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:05, Dan Marotta wrote:
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd
probably have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it
might not transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been.
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to no
avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the
house, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams
Soaring and, of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet
and I have not yet found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it
or a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There
IS a
ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
ClearNav download.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old that
had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
You eliminated NTFS as the cause of the problem? Most of the equipment
we use in gliders wouldn't be able to handle that. I'd also avoid
sticks larger than 16 GB, and anything that's USB 3. An yes, vendors
should do a better job of testing against commonly available third-party hardware.
-Dave
On 4/21/23 4:06 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
That stick worked!
But, as a retired Systems Engineer, I gotta say, it would be better to
change the boot time out to account for slower USB sticks rather than
making everyone find one that works out of a handful around the house
and hangar.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 11:04, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just spoke with Williams Soaring. He told me that it might simply be
the stick that I was using was too slow to respond during attempted
boot up. I've located the stick I always used to use. It was
inserted in my TV so I reformatted it and will try again this afternoon. >>>
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:23, Dan Marotta wrote:
Another thought just occurred: My USB stick is formatted as NTFS,
could it be that it should be FAT32? I'll check that out today, as
well.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:05, Dan Marotta wrote:
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd
probably have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it
might not transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been. >>>>>
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to
no avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the
house, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams
Soaring and, of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet
and I have not yet found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it
or a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download. There >>>>>>> IS a
ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
ClearNav download.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old
that had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
Sorry, the stick that I'd previously used and found in the back of my TV
was formatted as FAT32 and I didn't bother to try an NTFS. I also had a
2 GB stick formatted FAT32 which also worked to update the CNIII. Funny thing though; I tried to update to their Beta version and the update
went as usual. But after removing the stick and cycling power, the CNII booted up to the splash screen showing the new firmware version but hung there.
I tried a coupe of times without luck. Now that was a larger zip file
which extracted successfully to the 2 GB stick and I selected to update software and Flarmnet which appeared to go smoothly. Maybe I'll try
that again using a 16 GB stick.
As a side note, that 2 GB stick cost $80 back in 2008. Thankfully, it
was an expense item for my job. Now I can get 5 32 GB USB drives for
under $15! Oh, and the USB drives that wouldn't work last week were Sandisk, the brand recommended by ClearNav.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 19:08, kinsell wrote:
You eliminated NTFS as the cause of the problem? Most of the
equipment we use in gliders wouldn't be able to handle that. I'd also
avoid sticks larger than 16 GB, and anything that's USB 3. An yes,
vendors should do a better job of testing against commonly available
third-party hardware.
-Dave
On 4/21/23 4:06 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
That stick worked!
But, as a retired Systems Engineer, I gotta say, it would be better
to change the boot time out to account for slower USB sticks rather
than making everyone find one that works out of a handful around the
house and hangar.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 11:04, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just spoke with Williams Soaring. He told me that it might simply
be the stick that I was using was too slow to respond during
attempted boot up. I've located the stick I always used to use. It >>>> was inserted in my TV so I reformatted it and will try again this
afternoon.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:23, Dan Marotta wrote:
Another thought just occurred: My USB stick is formatted as NTFS,
could it be that it should be FAT32? I'll check that out today, as >>>>> well.
Dan
5J
On 4/21/23 10:05, Dan Marotta wrote:
Dan, would you mind sending ClearNavUpdater,exe to me? You'd
probably have to append a garbage suffix to the file name or it
might not transmit. Or you could zip the file.
Doug, my ClearNavUpdater.cnx file IS in the root and always has been. >>>>>>
Bob, it's an 8 gig stick and I've tried three different sticks to
no avail.
So far, I have looked at every backup disk and USB drive in the
house, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and Wheels, Craggy Aero, Wiliams
Soaring and, of course, ClearNav.net and have scoured the internet >>>>>> and I have not yet found ClearNavUpdater.exe. Does anyone have it >>>>>> or a link to it?
Dan
5J
On 4/20/23 18:12, Dan Reagan wrote:
I have had the same problem. The .exe file is missing from the >>>>>>> ClearNav download.
Well, there is no ClearNavUpdater.exe file in the download.
There IS a
ClearNavUpdater.cnx file.
I pulled out an old thumb drive that is two or three years old
that had the .exe file on it and it worked.
I've got a call in to Rex or Ben at Williams.
Dan Reagan
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