Imminent engine problem:Just another motorglider stinking up the freeway, a Purist would have made it to the airport. Old Bob, The Purist
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an
airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Engine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded at
4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying to
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have
been Plan D at best.
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an
airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Engine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded at
4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying to
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have
been Plan D at best.
Not to second guess the PIC, but the Diamond Katana has a fuel burn of 3.2 gallons per hour. He claimed to have 6-7 gallons on board. My math shows that he potentially has nearly two hours of cruise flight in the tank. He landed about 10 miles north ofthe airport. It will be interesting to find out if the engine was running, although he did not say it had quit, only that he had an "imminent engine problem."
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:Only good glider landing on an interstate hwy was Alfonso, E9. He also had that cool Latin voice, "No Big Deal"! It was I75 near Cordele. OBTP
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an
airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Engine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded atAt least after making his questionable landing he still had the low cool pilot voice.
4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying to
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have been Plan D at best.
UH
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Only good glider landing on an interstate hwy was Alfonso, E9. He also had that cool Latin voice, "No Big Deal"! It was I75 near Cordele. OBTPEngine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded at 4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying toAt least after making his questionable landing he still had the low cool pilot voice.
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have been Plan D at best.
UH
Not to second guess the PIC, but the Diamond Katana has a fuel burn of 3.2 gallons per hour. He claimed to have 6-7 gallons on board. My math shows that he potentially has nearly two hours of cruise flight in the tank. He landed about 10 miles north ofthe airport. It will be interesting to find out if the engine was running, although he did not say it had quit, only that he had an "imminent engine problem."
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
And he was greeted by Alicia, a glider pilot and crew from his home country. Gotta love it.Only good glider landing on an interstate hwy was Alfonso, E9. He also had that cool Latin voice, "No Big Deal"! It was I75 near Cordele. OBTPEngine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded atAt least after making his questionable landing he still had the low cool pilot voice.
4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying to fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have been Plan D at best.
UH
UH
tank became filled with 80% nitrogen:
Wait a minute! Oh, never mind...
Dan
5J
On 3/23/23 21:50, kinsell wrote:
tank became filled with 80% nitrogen:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landingAs I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTP
certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person
in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that
was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Haven't heard more about the Mar 19 landing, but Katanas, Las Vegas, and highway landings certainly seems to be a thing:
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/01/nissan-driver-runs-into-plane-that-made-emergency-landing-on-las-vegas-highway/
Wonder how this doesn't make it into the NTSB monthlies?
Sounds like a flight school using these things for training.
-Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the
interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running
while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running,
functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to
swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up
on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landing certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person
in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that
was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
As I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTPI wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 4:41:24 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landing certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.As I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTPI wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 12:16:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:dude in Pompano Beach and toured around the state like he did yesterday and post my flight on OLC. What next??? It is a good thing that I have mellowed during my old age, I am becoming much more tolerant.
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 4:41:24 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote: >>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landingAs I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTP
certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person >>>> in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that >>>> was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Eric, you guys crack me up! Now we have touring motorgliders, instead of get me home motorgliders, what next, sightseeing motorgliders, or mountain motorgliders. I have to chuckle at you guys, yet if only i had a motorglider I could have done like the
Yes, if only I had a motorglider I would have completed my task yesterday instead of stinking it up, guess I was a day late and a motor short. My original plan was to fly my pure Lowly 27 to Dade Collier via the East side of Lake O and then head NWalong 2901, which from now on I will refer to as Purist Highway, then thread the needle between 2901 and class B Orlando then take the final rout back to X52. It was an aggressive plan, yet achievable. Yes, a big triangle not one of those WOKE FAI T's.
Jeez, Bob, don't you realize that the PA-25 is just a short winged motor glider? In my experience, the L/D is pretty crappy but it CAN make a
safe landing from directly above the airport when the engine craps out.
Dan
5J
On 3/29/23 04:55, [email protected] wrote:the dude in Pompano Beach and toured around the state like he did yesterday and post my flight on OLC. What next??? It is a good thing that I have mellowed during my old age, I am becoming much more tolerant.
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 12:16:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 4:41:24 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landingAs I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTP
certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person >>>> in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that >>>> was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Eric, you guys crack me up! Now we have touring motorgliders, instead of get me home motorgliders, what next, sightseeing motorgliders, or mountain motorgliders. I have to chuckle at you guys, yet if only i had a motorglider I could have done like
along 2901, which from now on I will refer to as Purist Highway, then thread the needle between 2901 and class B Orlando then take the final rout back to X52. It was an aggressive plan, yet achievable. Yes, a big triangle not one of those WOKE FAI T's.Yes, if only I had a motorglider I would have completed my task yesterday instead of stinking it up, guess I was a day late and a motor short. My original plan was to fly my pure Lowly 27 to Dade Collier via the East side of Lake O and then head NW
Jeez, Bob, don't you realize that the PA-25 is just a short winged motor glider? In my experience, the L/D is pretty crappy but it CAN make athe dude in Pompano Beach and toured around the state like he did yesterday and post my flight on OLC. What next??? It is a good thing that I have mellowed during my old age, I am becoming much more tolerant.
safe landing from directly above the airport when the engine craps out.
Dan
5J
On 3/29/23 04:55, [email protected] wrote:
On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 12:16:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 4:41:24 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
Anything is possible. The limited information on the Vegas landingAs I have stated many times, these motorglider guys think differently or do not think at all. Looks to me like the dude had many options prior to crashing into the house, filming the crash, now that was classic. OBTP
certainly doesn't seem to add up. Passenger there was ATP and CFI.
Then there was a motorglider crash that just happened in India, person >>>> in left seat filmed the whole thing with a handheld phone. I hope that >>>> was the passenger, with pilot in right seat.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/jharkhand/story/glider-plane-crashes-house-dhanbad-child-pilot-injured-2350697-2023-03-24
Dave
On 3/25/23 4:26 PM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
A few months back a guy landed his " out of fuel ' Cessna on the interstate in the South East. He JUST happened to have a GoPro running while he did it.
Then, last fall, a YouTuber jumped out, flying solo, of his running, functioning Piper, just for publicity and likes.
Then those 2 guys jumped out of their individual C-182's trying to swap plane mid-air for what I think what was a RedBull stunt
The FAA took dim views of the above incidents.
I wonder What really happened with the Vegas guy?
There seems to be a trend, I wonder if his miracle landing will pop up on YouTube soon.
Nick
T
Eric, you guys crack me up! Now we have touring motorgliders, instead of get me home motorgliders, what next, sightseeing motorgliders, or mountain motorgliders. I have to chuckle at you guys, yet if only i had a motorglider I could have done like
along 2901, which from now on I will refer to as Purist Highway, then thread the needle between 2901 and class B Orlando then take the final rout back to X52. It was an aggressive plan, yet achievable. Yes, a big triangle not one of those WOKE FAI T's.Yes, if only I had a motorglider I would have completed my task yesterday instead of stinking it up, guess I was a day late and a motor short. My original plan was to fly my pure Lowly 27 to Dade Collier via the East side of Lake O and then head NW
Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
Jeez, Bob, don't you realize that the PA-25 is just a short winged motor glider? In my experience, the L/D is pretty crappy but it CAN make a
safe landing from directly above the airport when the engine craps out.
Dan
5J
other differences.Correction: Katanas are Touring Motorgliders, not the motorgliders you gripe about, and they (apparently) don't have the same Magic Get-home Button.
Actually the Da-20 Katana is not a motorglider at all, it is a regular light power airplane. It is however based on the HK-36 Super Dimona, which is touring motor glider. The Katana has shorter wings, fixed pitch propeller and no air brakes amongst
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an
airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Engine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded atJust another motorglider stinking up the freeway, a Purist would have made it to the airport. Old Bob, The Purist
4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying to
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have been Plan D at best.
A DA-20 is not a MotorGlider
Bill
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 3:17:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
Imminent engine problem:
https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/were-declaring-an-emergency-recording-captures-the-moment-a-small-plane-landed-on-a-las-vegas-freeway/
with only 6-7 gallons left, he didn't want to roll the dice on an airport landing, taking a Las Vegas freeway as a safer bet.
Engine problem was excessive air in the tank. Heck, I'm fully loaded at 4 gallons, seems like he had plenty. Maybe a Cessna driver trying toJust another motorglider stinking up the freeway, a Purist would have made it to the airport. Old Bob, The Purist
fly the Katana the same way?? Seems like a freeway landing should have been Plan D at best.
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