• California (D)rainin'

    From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 4 15:39:49 2023
    I've just seen today's page on https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ showing rainfall in Central California and wondered how it has affected Williams, because I spent a happy few days there in 2003, flying their Junior and converting to their Pegase 101, which was good because it meant that I
    could get straight into my club's Pegase 90 on my return to the UK.

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  • From Mark Mocho@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 4 08:19:25 2023
    It must be bad in Cali if the Brits in soggy old England are worried.

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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to Mark Mocho on Wed Jan 4 21:10:50 2023
    On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 08:19:25 -0800 (PST), Mark Mocho wrote:

    It must be bad in Cali if the Brits in soggy old England are worried.

    I asked about what happened around Williams because, unlike a lot of the
    US, its somewhere I know and the NASA piece was the first I'd heard about
    the Central Valley getting wetter than usual this winter.

    ----
    His winter has not been particularly wet here, just unusually cold. The
    weather got unusually cold for Essex during the week starting around 14
    days before Xmas and did it unusually fast. The weather then reversed the process a week later and, again got unexpectedly hot unusually fast.

    The temperature came down to -5C quite suddenly and 100mm (4") snow fell between dark and 9PM. Just before dusk (3:45 PM) the street was dry and
    clear but when I went out at 9PM to catch a taxi to the pub there was 4"
    of snow on the ground and it was still falling. A fall that heavy and/or
    sudden is very unusual here. FWIW I didn't get to the pub because all the
    taxis had gone home when the snow started.

    The temperature stayed cold for a week, so the snow stayed put. Then, as suddenly as this snowfall had appeared, the temperature banged up to 8C or
    10C and the snow, still 4" thick at the end of the week, vanished
    overnight, just about as quickly as it had it had come, and this included
    the icy piles of snow that had been scraped off cars and then trodden down
    by people getting in and out of the cars: now seeing *that* vanish just a
    fast really surprised me.

    All this may not sound like much to those who live in in places like New
    York State or Colorado but its was a lot more snow and considerably colder
    than usual for where I live in Essex.

    And, before you ask, yes I have spent a winter in NYC. Cold there is much
    drier than here, so I was happy walking round NYC in the same clothes I'd
    wear in a London winter. In fact I felt warmer there than I would here
    despite NYC winter being -18F - -20F during Dec thru Jan while London
    would be a bit above freezing in that period: the difference is that
    London is very damp & misty in winter while NYC winters are dry.


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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Wed Jan 4 14:51:28 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 4:10:54 PM UTC-5, Martin Gregorie wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 08:19:25 -0800 (PST), Mark Mocho wrote:

    It must be bad in Cali if the Brits in soggy old England are worried.
    I asked about what happened around Williams because, unlike a lot of the
    US, its somewhere I know and the NASA piece was the first I'd heard about the Central Valley getting wetter than usual this winter.

    ----
    His winter has not been particularly wet here, just unusually cold. The weather got unusually cold for Essex during the week starting around 14
    days before Xmas and did it unusually fast. The weather then reversed the process a week later and, again got unexpectedly hot unusually fast.

    The temperature came down to -5C quite suddenly and 100mm (4") snow fell between dark and 9PM. Just before dusk (3:45 PM) the street was dry and clear but when I went out at 9PM to catch a taxi to the pub there was 4"
    of snow on the ground and it was still falling. A fall that heavy and/or sudden is very unusual here. FWIW I didn't get to the pub because all the taxis had gone home when the snow started.

    The temperature stayed cold for a week, so the snow stayed put. Then, as suddenly as this snowfall had appeared, the temperature banged up to 8C or 10C and the snow, still 4" thick at the end of the week, vanished
    overnight, just about as quickly as it had it had come, and this included the icy piles of snow that had been scraped off cars and then trodden down by people getting in and out of the cars: now seeing *that* vanish just a fast really surprised me.

    All this may not sound like much to those who live in in places like New York State or Colorado but its was a lot more snow and considerably colder than usual for where I live in Essex.

    And, before you ask, yes I have spent a winter in NYC. Cold there is much drier than here, so I was happy walking round NYC in the same clothes I'd wear in a London winter. In fact I felt warmer there than I would here despite NYC winter being -18F - -20F during Dec thru Jan while London
    would be a bit above freezing in that period: the difference is that
    London is very damp & misty in winter while NYC winters are dry.
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    Well, we are struggling here in Florida with unusually warm weather and the ground is wet compared to past years. The other bad news is that my mango trees are flowering and it is not even past the full moon in February, this is not good! Just today we
    hit 82 F and the night will be a cool 70, better get the blankets out. I am putting an APB out for the boys at Seminole to make sure they have anti freeze in their motorglider cooling tanks, I would hate for them to freeze up.; Now listen up, we have
    some new and exciting news coming out of TCSC, all I can say about March is, "Lets Get Ready To Rumble". OBTP

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  • From kinsell@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Wed Jan 4 17:21:56 2023
    Another BOMB! CYCLONE! moving in now:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/04/weather/severe-storm-tornado-threat-south-wednesday/index.html

    How much more of this can they take before sliding off into the Pacific?



    On 1/4/23 2:10 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
    On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 08:19:25 -0800 (PST), Mark Mocho wrote:

    It must be bad in Cali if the Brits in soggy old England are worried.

    I asked about what happened around Williams because, unlike a lot of the
    US, its somewhere I know and the NASA piece was the first I'd heard about
    the Central Valley getting wetter than usual this winter.

    ----
    His winter has not been particularly wet here, just unusually cold. The weather got unusually cold for Essex during the week starting around 14
    days before Xmas and did it unusually fast. The weather then reversed the process a week later and, again got unexpectedly hot unusually fast.

    The temperature came down to -5C quite suddenly and 100mm (4") snow fell between dark and 9PM. Just before dusk (3:45 PM) the street was dry and
    clear but when I went out at 9PM to catch a taxi to the pub there was 4"
    of snow on the ground and it was still falling. A fall that heavy and/or sudden is very unusual here. FWIW I didn't get to the pub because all the taxis had gone home when the snow started.

    The temperature stayed cold for a week, so the snow stayed put. Then, as suddenly as this snowfall had appeared, the temperature banged up to 8C or 10C and the snow, still 4" thick at the end of the week, vanished
    overnight, just about as quickly as it had it had come, and this included
    the icy piles of snow that had been scraped off cars and then trodden down
    by people getting in and out of the cars: now seeing *that* vanish just a fast really surprised me.

    All this may not sound like much to those who live in in places like New
    York State or Colorado but its was a lot more snow and considerably colder than usual for where I live in Essex.

    And, before you ask, yes I have spent a winter in NYC. Cold there is much drier than here, so I was happy walking round NYC in the same clothes I'd wear in a London winter. In fact I felt warmer there than I would here despite NYC winter being -18F - -20F during Dec thru Jan while London
    would be a bit above freezing in that period: the difference is that
    London is very damp & misty in winter while NYC winters are dry.



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  • From Mark Mocho@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 4 17:35:46 2023
    Another BOMB! CYCLONE! moving in now:

    Oh, JOY! another new weather disaster term that the news media can wet their pants over.

    "BOMB! CYCLONE!" has now superseded "POLAR VORTEX!" and "EL NINO!" and "LA NINA."

    Give it a name and make people PANIC!

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  • From Eric Greenwell@21:1/5 to kinsell on Wed Jan 4 21:03:20 2023
    On 1/4/2023 8:54 PM, kinsell wrote:
    On 1/4/23 6:35 PM, Mark Mocho wrote:
    Another BOMB! CYCLONE! moving in now:

    Oh, JOY! another new weather disaster term that the news media can wet their pants over.

    "BOMB! CYCLONE!" has now superseded "POLAR VORTEX!" and "EL NINO!" and "LA NINA."

    Give it a name and make people PANIC!


    Colorado has only one refinery, which supplies much of the gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, and
    asphalt used in the state.

    A big cold snap end of Dec caused multiple equipment failures and two small fires.  The
    whole plant is shut down for three months for repairs.

    Damn Global Warming strikes again!

    Now, now, Dave, stop pretending you don't know the difference between "global" and
    "Colorado" :^]

    Surely, the refinery had seen even colder spells than the latest one. What went wrong?
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    Eric Greenwell - USA
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    https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications

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  • From kinsell@21:1/5 to Mark Mocho on Wed Jan 4 21:54:06 2023
    On 1/4/23 6:35 PM, Mark Mocho wrote:
    Another BOMB! CYCLONE! moving in now:

    Oh, JOY! another new weather disaster term that the news media can wet their pants over.

    "BOMB! CYCLONE!" has now superseded "POLAR VORTEX!" and "EL NINO!" and "LA NINA."

    Give it a name and make people PANIC!


    Colorado has only one refinery, which supplies much of the gasoline,
    diesel, jet fuel, and asphalt used in the state.

    A big cold snap end of Dec caused multiple equipment failures and two
    small fires. The whole plant is shut down for three months for repairs.

    Damn Global Warming strikes again!

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