• Glider Club Insurance Lost

    From John Glider-dood@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 28 10:27:02 2022
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John

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  • From John Sinclair@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 28 16:16:32 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John


    Not giving any names, but I can remember 2 local clubs/ FBO’s who lost insurance due to insurance claims. Believe a few club members were able to get needed coverage under their own name.
    JJ

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Oct 29 01:57:49 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 7:16:34 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John
    Not giving any names, but I can remember 2 local clubs/ FBO’s who lost insurance due to insurance claims. Believe a few club members were able to get needed coverage under their own name.
    JJ
    Nevada Soaring Association did not lose their coverage, but about 20 years ago decided the hull coverage was too expensive and required members to have their own. A great club that promotes XC!

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  • From Hank Nixon@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Oct 29 04:33:14 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:27:03 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John

    I know of a few cases over the years where the insurance company has declined to provide hull coverage due to losses but I have never heard of declining liability coverage. 2 Major losses associated with operations in a short period of time can put you
    in jeopardy.
    FWIW
    UH

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  • From BobWa43@21:1/5 to Hank Nixon on Sun Oct 30 06:18:15 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 7:33:16 AM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:27:03 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John
    I know of a few cases over the years where the insurance company has declined to provide hull coverage due to losses but I have never heard of declining liability coverage. 2 Major losses associated with operations in a short period of time can put you
    in jeopardy.
    FWIW
    UH
    NSA owns their club gliders through a separate LLC. Members are required to carry non owner insurance in an amount necessary to cover potential loss for the aircraft they are flying.

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  • From Frank Whiteley@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Oct 31 12:01:52 2022
    On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 7:18:17 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 7:33:16 AM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:27:03 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
    Does anyone know of a US glider club that, due to an accident, lost their liability insurance coverage? The better question is what did they do to keep their operation going? Thanks, John
    I know of a few cases over the years where the insurance company has declined to provide hull coverage due to losses but I have never heard of declining liability coverage. 2 Major losses associated with operations in a short period of time can put
    you in jeopardy.
    FWIW
    UH
    NSA owns their club gliders through a separate LLC. Members are required to carry non owner insurance in an amount necessary to cover potential loss for the aircraft they are flying.
    AFAIK, tow plane and a 1-26 are owned by NSA, and the 1-26 does not require the insurance. The one hitch is that the members of the LLC (Sierra Fliers, LLC) cannot use renter/non-owner insurance. A recent phone call with an NSA officer, who is listed
    as a manager of the LLC, suggested that they did lose insurability at one point (but maybe that was due to excessive cost) but that they may be moving forward to insure as a club again. Other chapters have forms of self-insurance, some with very high
    member deductibles and advise members to carry renter/non-owner coverage if the high member deductible is of concern.

    https://nevadasoaring.com/insurance/
    Sierra Fliers, LLC, is the entity.

    Frank Whiteley

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