Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence on
the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire at
the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts setting
off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there was a
prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or two?
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire
at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts setting
off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there was a
prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there at
the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the race
fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint decision with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as Hamilton). Piastri
ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by choosing the medium,
so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
On 8/07/2024 4:34 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right
tire at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts setting
off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there was a
prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there
at the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the race
fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint decision
with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as Hamilton).
Piastri ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by choosing the
medium, so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
Yes, hard looked to be the right choice.
And yes, it was inevitable, but sad to see NOR simply bend over for VET
like that.
Wouldn't need to be unsporting or illegal, but sure wouldn't have
happened so easily if it was the other way around.
On 2024-07-07 15:46, Geoff wrote:
On 8/07/2024 4:34 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right
tire at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts
setting off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there
was a prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or
two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there
at the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the
race fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint
decision with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as
Hamilton). Piastri ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by
choosing the medium, so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a
while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
Yes, hard looked to be the right choice.
And yes, it was inevitable, but sad to see NOR simply bend over for
VET like that.
Bend over? Please.
There is no way to prevent someone with that great an overspeed from overtaking.
Wouldn't need to be unsporting or illegal, but sure wouldn't have
happened so easily if it was the other way around.
You mean like when Verstappen had to let Norris by on the Hangar
Straight on lap 15?
pP85PrR <[email protected]> wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence on
the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire at
the right time."
No - I heard him very clearly say "...the right *tyre* at the right
time...". ;-)
On 8/07/2024 11:24 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 15:46, Geoff wrote:
On 8/07/2024 4:34 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong
influence on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated:
"The right tire at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts
setting off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there
was a prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season
or two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there
at the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track. >>>>
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the
race fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint
decision with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as
Hamilton). Piastri ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by
choosing the medium, so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a
while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
Yes, hard looked to be the right choice.
And yes, it was inevitable, but sad to see NOR simply bend over for
VET like that.
Bend over? Please.
There is no way to prevent someone with that great an overspeed from
overtaking.
No, but it could conceivably have been made a little more difficult than that. VER certainly would have tried harder.
pP85PrR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-07-08 4:13 AM, Mark wrote:
pP85PrR <[email protected]> wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence on >>>> the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire at >>>> the right time."
No - I heard him very clearly say "...the right *tyre* at the right
time...". ;-)
Not "...the right tyre at the ryte time..."?
Never attempt to apply phonetic rules to a non-phonetic language. And
all variants of English are inconsistent in that...
Yazoo <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 13:39:48 -0000 (UTC), Mark <[email protected]>
wrote:
pP85PrR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-07-08 4:13 AM, Mark wrote:
pP85PrR <[email protected]> wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence on >>>>>> the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire at >>>>>> the right time."
No - I heard him very clearly say "...the right *tyre* at the right
time...". ;-)
Not "...the right tyre at the ryte time..."?
Never attempt to apply phonetic rules to a non-phonetic language. And
all variants of English are inconsistent in that...
Well, this is international group, so here we are from all over the
world. For some of us English is not native language, so such errors
occurs are normal.
The only importan thing is that we understand each other, right? :)
Yes - my initial joke was a (friendly) english-english jibe (UK to US) because of the way they changed the language* and then tell us we're
"wrong".
I'm not generally a nitpicker when it comes to spelling or grammar
(though I try to be correct myself). For me, you sum it up: language is
for conveying ideas, so understanding is key.
So, the one time I do question it is when the spelling or grammatical
error introduces ambiguity. English (in particular) has a huge number of
word pairs that either look the same but are pronounced differently
(lead as a metal vs lead to be at the front of), or that look different
but are pronounced the same way. (lead as the metal vs led to have been leading in the past). Even words like "Polish" at the start of a
sentence need the following words to know if that's related to a
nationality (from Poland pronounced poe-lish) or shining something (poh-lish). And sometimes that matters...and sometimes it's used to
create puns and other wordplay. I have no idea how non-native speakers
cope with English.
* And it's inconsistent in any case. Sometimes the divergence simplifies
the language, but not all of it. Webster is often put forward as someone
who was refining the language, but he was quite explicit that his
original intent was to create a point of diversion. He felt that a true country also needed its own language. He wanted American English to
break with British English. Hence, some of the changes really don't make
a great deal of sense other than to be "different" to English.
The only importan thing is that we understand each other, right? :)
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right tire
at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts setting
off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there was a
prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there at
the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the race
fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint decision with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as Hamilton). Piastri
ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by choosing the medium,
so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
On 8/07/2024 4:34 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right
tire at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts setting
off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there was a
prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there
at the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the race
fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint decision
with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as Hamilton).
Piastri ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by choosing the
medium, so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
Surprising that none of the haters have come out with "HAM wouldn't have
won if RUS hadn't been retired because Mercedes favour HAM" yet.
On 2024-07-09 16:13, Geoff wrote:
On 8/07/2024 4:34 am, Alan wrote:
On 2024-07-07 09:09, pP85PrR wrote:
Exciting at the front!
Interesting how strategy decisions have potentially strong influence
on the drivers' results. As Martin Brundle reiterated: "The right
tire at the right time."
A personal opinion: so good not to see a sea of orange shirts
setting off their orange flares. Do I remember correctly that there
was a prohibition on those flares at one point in the last season or
two?
Fantastic to have three different cars...
...(and 5 different drivers--sorry Sergio, but you're just not there
at the moment)...
...all with a legitimate shot at being the fastest at any given track.
McLaren clearly got a couple of strategy calls wrong:
not double-stacking Oscar ruined his race,
and the tougher call of medium vs soft for Norris (rewatching the
race fromm Norris's in-car feed shows it ended up being a joint
decision with Norris first mentioning choosing the same tires as
Hamilton). Piastri ended up gaining about 16-17 seconds on Norris by
choosing the medium, so that choice is going to haunt Norris for a
while.
But it was brilliant driving by everyone at the top.
Congrats, Lewis!
Surprising that none of the haters have come out with "HAM wouldn't
have won if RUS hadn't been retired because Mercedes favour HAM" yet.
Sorry... ...not a hater.
I don't know who would have won if Russell hadn't retired.
I'm not generally a nitpicker when it comes to spelling or grammar...
(though I try to be correct myself). For me, you sum it up: language is
for conveying ideas, so understanding is key.
On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 13:52:19 -0000 (UTC), Mark <[email protected]>
wrote:
...
...
I'm not generally a nitpicker when it comes to spelling or grammar
(though I try to be correct myself). For me, you sum it up: language is
for conveying ideas, so understanding is key.
I agree with all you wrote.
As someone who still learns English (after 50+ years of learning), I'm
happy to understand nuances of the language and be able to recognize
the fine lines in between words and phrases.
English can be confusing for us aliens, at times. :)
[ Well off-topic... ]
As someone who has spent some years studying Spanish (with some
reasonable French from my schooldays) I'll offer a /small/ crumb of
comfort in defence of English...
1. Consider the "-ough" situation - and I realise this isn't helpful in
a defence of English - where (at least with my pronunciation):
through - ough = oo
thorough - ough = uh
bough - ough = ow
dough - ough = oh
cough - ough = off
rough - ough = uff
ought - ough = or
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