• Re: News - Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari in 2025

    From Woozy Song@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Fri Feb 2 06:57:22 2024
    Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Lewis Hamilton to leave Mercedes and join Ferrari for the 2025 Formula 1 season (he will stay at Mercedes this year)

    More - https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season


    He has a way to go before breaking Chiron's record as the oldest F1 driver.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Fri Feb 2 09:57:32 2024
    Yazoo <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 07:35:40 -0800 (PST), Mr Gobrien
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton to leave Mercedes and join Ferrari for the 2025 Formula 1
    season (he will stay at Mercedes this year)

    More -
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season

    Well, nothing lasts forever.
    I've never been Ferrari fan, but this might be good move for both HAM
    and Ferrari.
    I can understand Hamilton, since all F1 drivers dream to drive for
    Ferrari. But, really what could be his motivation? More chamionship
    wins, more money?

    Stardom in any sport is addictive, which is why so many sportsmen have attempted comebacks or kept going when long past their best.

    I think that a move to Ferrari could be just the fillip Hamilton needs to rekindle his enthusiasm for the sport. He is at an age when he is probably beginning to decline slightly physically but this is more than made up for
    by the racecraft that comes with years of experience. Alonso has shown the way!

    Anyway, great for the sport and could turn out to be a master stroke.

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 2 10:17:28 2024
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 07:35:40 -0800 (PST), Mr Gobrien
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton to leave Mercedes and join Ferrari for the 2025 Formula 1 season (he will stay at Mercedes this year)

    More - https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season

    Well, nothing lasts forever.
    I've never been Ferrari fan, but this might be good move for both HAM
    and Ferrari.
    I can understand Hamilton, since all F1 drivers dream to drive for
    Ferrari. But, really what could be his motivation? More chamionship
    wins, more money?

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Fri Feb 2 13:13:51 2024
    On 2 Feb 2024 09:57:32 GMT, Sir Tim <[email protected]d> wrote:



    Stardom in any sport is addictive, which is why so many sportsmen have >attempted comebacks or kept going when long past their best.

    Yes, most of them never give up.

    I think that a move to Ferrari could be just the fillip Hamilton needs to >rekindle his enthusiasm for the sport. He is at an age when he is probably >beginning to decline slightly physically but this is more than made up for
    by the racecraft that comes with years of experience. Alonso has shown the >way!

    Alonso is incredible at his age. Well done. Hamilton is getting old
    for F1, but he still is in excellent shape. As I said, the problem
    might be the motivation, not his driving ability.

    Anyway, great for the sport and could turn out to be a master stroke.

    For sure! It would be great! Ferrari need success for years. But, top
    driver is not enough. They need to fix their organization. So much
    errors and strange decisions.

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Fri Feb 2 06:49:48 2024
    On 2/2/2024 06:13, Yazoo wrote:


    For sure! It would be great! Ferrari need success for years. But, top
    driver is not enough. They need to fix their organization. So much
    errors and strange decisions.



    That's what made Hamilton's move odd to me. Speaking as a Ferrari fan,
    while there was some improvement, the Merc is still IMHO the better car compared to the Ferrari. The strange decision making didn't help
    Ferrari, either. Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

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    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
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  • From keithr0@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 4 19:43:44 2024
    On 2/02/2024 10:49 pm, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
    On 2/2/2024 06:13, Yazoo wrote:


    For sure! It would be great! Ferrari need success for years. But, top
    driver is not enough. They need to fix their organization. So much
    errors and strange decisions.



    That's what made Hamilton's move odd to me.  Speaking as a Ferrari fan, while there was some improvement, the Merc is still IMHO the better car compared to the Ferrari.  The strange decision making didn't help
    Ferrari, either.  Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something
    to do with the move.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Mon Feb 5 21:08:49 2024
    On 5/02/2024 8:52 pm, Yazoo wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:43:44 +1000, keithr0 <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    ari, either.  Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something
    to do with the move.

    OK, that's a LOT of money. But, Hamilton has already accumulated big
    pile of money. Probably hundreds of millions. I don't think that
    another hundred mil is the main motivation.


    Most of the 'greatests' of the last decade or 3 have done Ferrari at
    some time.

    geoff

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 5 08:52:01 2024
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:43:44 +1000, keithr0 <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    ari, either.� Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something
    to do with the move.

    OK, that's a LOT of money. But, Hamilton has already accumulated big
    pile of money. Probably hundreds of millions. I don't think that
    another hundred mil is the main motivation.

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 5 09:47:37 2024
    On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 21:08:49 +1300, geoff <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 5/02/2024 8:52 pm, Yazoo wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:43:44 +1000, keithr0 <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    ari, either.� Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something >>> to do with the move.

    OK, that's a LOT of money. But, Hamilton has already accumulated big
    pile of money. Probably hundreds of millions. I don't think that
    another hundred mil is the main motivation.


    Most of the 'greatests' of the last decade or 3 have done Ferrari at
    some time.

    geoff

    Yes. As I wrote, most of drivers dream about drive for Ferrari.

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Mon Feb 5 14:16:37 2024
    On 2/5/24 08:52, Yazoo wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:43:44 +1000, keithr0 <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    ari, either.  Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something
    to do with the move.

    OK, that's a LOT of money. But, Hamilton has already accumulated big
    pile of money. Probably hundreds of millions. I don't think that
    another hundred mil is the main motivation.

    Yea sure billionaires are never interested in more money and power.
    We see that everywhere :-)





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    some influence, it will be corrupted from both inside and outside.
    Then we have organizations established from pure evil.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Mon Feb 5 10:00:04 2024
    On 2/1/2024 10:35 AM, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Lewis Hamilton to leave Mercedes and join Ferrari for the 2025 Formula 1 season (he will stay at Mercedes this year)

    More - https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season

    Moving on. Writing-off the 2024 season.

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to Yazoo on Mon Feb 5 17:06:48 2024
    On 2/5/2024 2:47 AM, Yazoo wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 21:08:49 +1300, geoff <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 5/02/2024 8:52 pm, Yazoo wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:43:44 +1000, keithr0 <[email protected]d>
    wrote:
    ari, either.  Perhaps Hamilton knows something we don't?

    Maybe I'm a cynic, but I feel that the reported $100M may have something >>>> to do with the move.

    OK, that's a LOT of money. But, Hamilton has already accumulated big
    pile of money. Probably hundreds of millions. I don't think that
    another hundred mil is the main motivation.


    Most of the 'greatests' of the last decade or 3 have done Ferrari at
    some time.

    geoff

    Yes. As I wrote, most of drivers dream about drive for Ferrari.


    it's simple, he thinks his best bet to get #8 is in red, #8 is his only
    goal to cement his already GOAT status, he doesn't think Merc has it in
    them any longer to get him #8

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  • From Alan LeHun@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 05:43:52 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...

    On 2 Feb 2024 09:57:32 GMT, Sir Tim <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Yazoo <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 07:35:40 -0800 (PST), Mr Gobrien
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lewis Hamilton to leave Mercedes and join Ferrari for the 2025 Formula 1 >>> season (he will stay at Mercedes this year)

    More -
    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13061245/lewis-hamilton-to-join-ferrari-for-2025-formula-1-season

    Well, nothing lasts forever.
    I've never been Ferrari fan, but this might be good move for both HAM
    and Ferrari.
    I can understand Hamilton, since all F1 drivers dream to drive for
    Ferrari. But, really what could be his motivation? More chamionship
    wins, more money?

    Stardom in any sport is addictive, which is why so many sportsmen have >attempted comebacks or kept going when long past their best.

    I think that a move to Ferrari could be just the fillip Hamilton needs to >rekindle his enthusiasm for the sport. He is at an age when he is probably >beginning to decline slightly physically but this is more than made up for >by the racecraft that comes with years of experience. Alonso has shown the >way!

    Anyway, great for the sport and could turn out to be a master stroke.

    I hope you are right but my gut feel is that this is mostly just a
    prestige lap for both him and Ferrari.

    Yea. Hamilton has decided that Merc can no longer provide him with a car
    to take another championship. As LH has always said that he wanted to
    drive for Ferrari at some point in his career, now that the stars have
    aligned he has jumped for it. It may be the only chance he'll get.

    I know some are saying that LH thinks he has a chance with Ferrari but I
    don't buy it. LH will of course, try for another championship, but I
    don't think he really believes he will be able to do it.





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    Alan LeHun

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  • From Yazoo@21:1/5 to Alan LeHun on Fri Feb 9 09:11:08 2024
    On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 05:43:52 -0000, Alan LeHun <[email protected]> wrote:



    Yea. Hamilton has decided that Merc can no longer provide him with a car
    to take another championship. As LH has always said that he wanted to
    drive for Ferrari at some point in his career, now that the stars have >aligned he has jumped for it. It may be the only chance he'll get.


    Probably.

    I know some are saying that LH thinks he has a chance with Ferrari but I >don't buy it. LH will of course, try for another championship, but I
    don't think he really believes he will be able to do it.

    This!

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to Alan LeHun on Fri Feb 9 11:03:15 2024
    On 2/9/2024 12:43 AM, Alan LeHun wrote:
    Yea. Hamilton has decided that Merc can no longer provide him with a
    car to take another championship. As LH has always said that he
    wanted to drive for Ferrari at some point in his career, now that the
    stars have aligned he has jumped for it. It may be the only chance
    he'll get.

    I know some are saying that LH thinks he has a chance with Ferrari
    but I don't buy it. LH will of course, try for another championship,
    but I don't think he really believes he will be able to do it.

    I think that if Hamilton didn't believe he could win another
    championship he would have retired. He has plenty of other interests.

    I suspect that most of the grid believes they could win the championship
    with the right car - even drivers almost all of us would assess as
    having no chance. Hands up if, before the 2016 season, you thought
    Rosberg would ever be able to beat Lewis to the championship.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    I have tried to bring scientific thinking to literary
    criticism, and there's been very little gratitude for this.
    - Kurt Vonnegut

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Fri Feb 9 18:44:06 2024
    Mark Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/9/2024 12:43 AM, Alan LeHun wrote:
    Yea. Hamilton has decided that Merc can no longer provide him with a
    car to take another championship. As LH has always said that he
    wanted to drive for Ferrari at some point in his career, now that the
    stars have aligned he has jumped for it. It may be the only chance
    he'll get.

    I know some are saying that LH thinks he has a chance with Ferrari
    but I don't buy it. LH will of course, try for another championship,
    but I don't think he really believes he will be able to do it.

    I think that if Hamilton didn't believe he could win another
    championship he would have retired. He has plenty of other interests.

    I believe that the move to Ferrari will be exactly what Lewis needs to
    rekindle his talent and push him towards an eighth title.
    Alonso has shown that, within reason, age is no barrier (and Fangio was Hamilton’s age when he won his first, of five, WDCs).

    I suspect that most of the grid believes they could win the championship
    with the right car - even drivers almost all of us would assess as
    having no chance. Hands up if, before the 2016 season, you thought
    Rosberg would ever be able to beat Lewis to the championship.

    Or that Lewis could win another six titles with Mercedes after leaving
    McLaren.


    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Alan LeHun@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 12 05:23:28 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    I think that if Hamilton didn't believe he could win another
    championship he would have retired.


    Maybe. But the chance to drive for the team that he has always said he
    wanted to drive for, since his karting days, is a very big draw.

    It's all conjecture, oc. Maybe in future interviews we will get a better
    idea of his decision process.



    --
    Alan LeHun

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