Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never
lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
On 31/10/2023 6:47 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never
lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear
Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
Phil
Lando did really well, a great drive from a great driver.
However Alan's wrong to say that he lost out on the re-start "on hard
tyres" as he did the last stint on mediums. Also, yes Lando lost out
because he pitted under the safety car just before the red flag but he
only lost 2 places because of that (8th to 10th). He had a bad start on
his mediums (wheelspin) and dropped 5 places (to 15th) by the second
corner. To get back to 5th from there was stellar.
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never
lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
Phil
On 31/10/2023 6:47 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never
lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear
Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
Phil
Lando did really well, a great drive from a great driver.
However Alan's wrong to say that he lost out on the re-start "on hard
tyres" as he did the last stint on mediums. Also, yes Lando lost out
because he pitted under the safety car just before the red flag but he
only lost 2 places because of that (8th to 10th). He had a bad start
on his mediums (wheelspin) and dropped 5 places (to 15th) by the
second corner. To get back to 5th from there was stellar.
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to
do much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that
were leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to
do much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that
were leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
Commentary suggested that it was a question of avoiding running many
laps behind the safety car.
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to
do much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that
were leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
Commentary suggested that it was a question of avoiding running many
laps behind the safety car.
Televised US racing series have been leaning heavily on the red flag in recent years, often to "manufacture" a "better end" of a race. US promoters have probably gotten used to this.
~misfit~ <[email protected]> writes:
On 31/10/2023 6:47 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never
lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear
Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
Phil
Lando did really well, a great drive from a great driver.
However Alan's wrong to say that he lost out on the re-start "on hard
tyres" as he did the last stint on mediums. Also, yes Lando lost out
because he pitted under the safety car just before the red flag but he
only lost 2 places because of that (8th to 10th). He had a bad start
on his mediums (wheelspin) and dropped 5 places (to 15th) by the
second corner. To get back to 5th from there was stellar.
Yup. Thanks for the correction.
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do
much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were
leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
Phil
On 1/11/2023 3:05 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
~misfit~ <[email protected]> writes:
On 31/10/2023 6:47 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> writes:
Yes: he screwed up his qualifying, but what a recovery drive.
Lost out because he did a tire change before the red flag.
Lost out on the restart on hard tires.
And still came back to finish P5!
Fully agree. Several other good shows, but he was relentless, and never >>>> lost his focus on the target. I'm glad the team recognised that Oscar
was more useful by letting him past without any fuss. And nice to hear >>>> Lando's "thank you" immediately afterwards.
Phil
Lando did really well, a great drive from a great driver.
However Alan's wrong to say that he lost out on the re-start "on hard
tyres" as he did the last stint on mediums. Also, yes Lando lost out
because he pitted under the safety car just before the red flag but he
only lost 2 places because of that (8th to 10th). He had a bad start
on his mediums (wheelspin) and dropped 5 places (to 15th) by the
second corner. To get back to 5th from there was stellar.
Yup. Thanks for the correction.
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do
much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were
leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
Phil
As others have mentioned red flags are becoming more common. It's partly
for the spectacle (less racing laps lost and a standing start, as well
as the wild-card free tyre change) and partly due to increased safety concerns.
I'm fairly sure at least one Tecpro panel was replaced at Mexico. A
small truck arrived with 3 replacement panels and later, as they were sweeping up I saw that one of the panels on the truck was ruptured so
that one at least had been replaced.
NASCRAP
Televised US racing series have been leaning heavily on the red flag in recent years, often to "manufacture" a "better end" of a race.
On 1/11/2023 3:05 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do
much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were
leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
I'm fairly sure at least one Tecpro panel was replaced at Mexico. A
small truck arrived with 3 replacement panels and later, as they were sweeping up I saw that one of the panels on the truck was ruptured so
that one at least had been replaced.
Commentary suggested that it was a question of avoiding running many
laps behind the safety car.
Televised US racing series have been leaning heavily on the red flag in recent years, often to "manufacture" a "better end" of a race. US promoters
have probably gotten used to this.
NASCRAP
promotersCommentary suggested that it was a question of avoiding running many
laps behind the safety car.
Televised US racing series have been leaning heavily on the red flag in
recent years, often to "manufacture" a "better end" of a race. US
have probably gotten used to this.
NASCRAP
And now, unfortunately, IndyCar.
~misfit~ <[email protected]> writes:
On 1/11/2023 3:05 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do >>> much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were
leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
I'm fairly sure at least one Tecpro panel was replaced at Mexico. A
small truck arrived with 3 replacement panels and later, as they were
sweeping up I saw that one of the panels on the truck was ruptured so
that one at least had been replaced.
Ah, OK, we did flip back to some action replays of prior bits of the
race, and even cut away to adverts on the feed we were watching. Thanks.
geoff <[email protected]> writes:
On 3/11/2023 1:37 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
~misfit~ <[email protected]> writes:
On 1/11/2023 3:05 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do >>>>> much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were >>>>> leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
I'm fairly sure at least one Tecpro panel was replaced at Mexico. A
small truck arrived with 3 replacement panels and later, as they were
sweeping up I saw that one of the panels on the truck was ruptured so
that one at least had been replaced.
Ah, OK, we did flip back to some action replays of prior bits of the
race, and even cut away to adverts on the feed we were watching. Thanks.
The advert-heavy coverage must be a USA ting then. Just like America
'football', and some other sports.
Nope, it was Romanian channel we were watching.
On 3/11/2023 1:37 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
~misfit~ <[email protected]> writes:
On 1/11/2023 3:05 am, Phil Carmody wrote:
On the red - was it really necessary? It didn't look like they had to do >>>> much apart from re-right some of the panels in the barrier that were
leaning, nothing seemed to need replacing.
I'm fairly sure at least one Tecpro panel was replaced at Mexico. A
small truck arrived with 3 replacement panels and later, as they were
sweeping up I saw that one of the panels on the truck was ruptured so
that one at least had been replaced.
Ah, OK, we did flip back to some action replays of prior bits of the
race, and even cut away to adverts on the feed we were watching. Thanks.
The advert-heavy coverage must be a USA ting then. Just like America 'football', and some other sports.
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving given the last lap.
On 6/11/2023 10:27 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving given
the last lap.
Yeah. though a great drive he never had a bunch of difficult passing or defending to do.
ALO and PER however ...
I'd give DOTD to ALO.
geoff
On 6/11/2023 10:27 am, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving given the last lap.
Yeah. though a great drive he never had a bunch of difficult passing
or defending to do.
ALO and PER however ...
I'd give DOTD to ALO.
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving given the last lap.
On 2023-11-05 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving given
the last lap.
My thread was about Mexico...
:-)
On 7/11/2023 2:02 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-05 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving
given the last lap.
My thread was about Mexico...
:-)
Suggest include that in the 'Subject' line next time then. Else could
apply to the 2026 GP at Timbuktu.
On 2023-11-06 17:22, geoff wrote:
On 7/11/2023 2:02 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-05 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving
given the last lap.
My thread was about Mexico...
:-)
Suggest include that in the 'Subject' line next time then. Else could
apply to the 2026 GP at Timbuktu.
The date of my post wasn't enough of a clue?
Was the Brazilian GP contest before 1600PDT on October 29?
:-)
On 7/11/2023 3:26 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-06 17:22, geoff wrote:
On 7/11/2023 2:02 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-05 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving
given the last lap.
My thread was about Mexico...
:-)
Suggest include that in the 'Subject' line next time then. Else could
apply to the 2026 GP at Timbuktu.
The date of my post wasn't enough of a clue?
Was the Brazilian GP contest before 1600PDT on October 29?
:-)
Generally people have to force themselves even to open your posts, let
alone bother do detective work to find the original post date.
Why not simply put what it refers to in the subject ?
Please don't bother replying.
On 7/11/2023 3:26 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-06 17:22, geoff wrote:
On 7/11/2023 2:02 pm, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-05 13:27, XYXPDQ wrote:
DotD at Brazil to I think though maybe Alonso was more deserving
given the last lap.
My thread was about Mexico...
:-)
Suggest include that in the 'Subject' line next time then. Else could
apply to the 2026 GP at Timbuktu.
The date of my post wasn't enough of a clue?
Was the Brazilian GP contest before 1600PDT on October 29?
:-)
Generally people have to force themselves even to open your posts, let
alone bother do detective work to find the original post date.
Why not simply put what it refers to in the subject ?
Please don't bother replying.
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