• Massa still upset he didn't win 2008 championship

    From Geoff May@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 08:43:31 2023
    https://www.pitpass.com/75889/Massa-taking-legal-action-over-2008-title

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to Geoff May on Fri Aug 18 06:10:25 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:43:34 AM UTC-4, Geoff May wrote:
    https://www.pitpass.com/75889/Massa-taking-legal-action-over-2008-title

    Cheers

    Geoff
    Geez, that sounds like a desperate swing for the fence. As the article recounts, Felipe was also hurt by a bungled Ferrari pit stop, not just Nelsinho's deliberate crash.
    Stop carrying that cross already, MAS.

    Dan

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Sat Aug 19 16:51:58 2023
    On 19/08/2023 1:10 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:43:34 AM UTC-4, Geoff May wrote:
    https://www.pitpass.com/75889/Massa-taking-legal-action-over-2008-title

    Cheers

    Geoff
    Geez, that sounds like a desperate swing for the fence. As the article recounts, Felipe was also hurt by a bungled Ferrari pit stop, not just Nelsinho's deliberate crash.
    Stop carrying that cross already, MAS.

    Dan

    Must be running short of funds ....

    geoff

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  • From Geoff May@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Aug 19 11:20:32 2023
    On 19/08/2023 05:51, geoff wrote:
    On 19/08/2023 1:10 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:43:34 AM UTC-4, Geoff May wrote:
    https://www.pitpass.com/75889/Massa-taking-legal-action-over-2008-title

    Cheers

    Geoff
    Geez, that sounds like a desperate swing for the fence. As the article
    recounts, Felipe was also hurt by a bungled Ferrari pit stop, not just
    Nelsinho's deliberate crash.
    Stop carrying that cross already, MAS.

    Dan

    Must be running short of funds ....

    geoff

    That was my thought as soon as I read the article.

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Aug 19 14:10:04 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:52:10 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Must be running short of funds ....

    why not end the sentence with a period?
    instead of the gay ass dot dot dot dot?

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Aug 19 14:05:34 2023
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 10:52:10 PM UTC-6, geoff wrote:

    Must be running short of funds ....

    must be?
    thanks for fuck all, as usual

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Geoff May on Sat Aug 19 20:20:04 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:20:34 AM UTC-6, Geoff May wrote:

    That was my thought as soon as I read the article.

    thank you for posting your thought as soon as you read the article

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Mon Aug 21 10:49:53 2023
    Dan the Man <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 3:43:34 AM UTC-4, Geoff May wrote:

    https://www.pitpass.com/75889/Massa-taking-legal-action-over-2008-title

    Geez, that sounds like a desperate swing for the fence. As the article recounts, Felipe was also hurt by a bungled Ferrari pit stop, not just Nelsinho's deliberate crash. Stop carrying that cross already, MAS.

    It's also desperate stirring of the pot by Bernie so that he's not
    completely forgotten. He drops this very controversial comment and now
    says he can't even remember the interview. Massa relying on Bernie would
    be tricky at the best of times, using him as the main plank of his case - a
    man at the age of 92 who is now backtracking - is just mad.

    If you look at how the FIA has dealt with cases where teams or
    individuals are found to have cheated, you don't find them cancelling
    the whole event/series of events. For example, Schumacher in 1997 or
    McLaren in 2007 - in neither case was the solution to invalidate the
    results of everyone, but rather to solely punish those found to be at fault/benefited.

    If Singapore was, therefore, to be treated similarly, you might expect
    (at worst*) that Alonso would lose his points as he clearly benefited.
    If that happened - and I'm not the only one to point this out - the
    others would shift up a place and Hamilton would actually *gain* two
    points. Far from giving Massa his desired outcome, the WDC would be even
    more clearly Hamilton's.

    * Not clear that even that would be reasonable without a finding that
    Alonso was somehow involved.

    This is a non-story and I'm surprised that Massa has allowed himself to
    be taken in by a ridiculous ruse that could never benefit him. He looks
    like a desperate loser who can't let go of things not quite going his
    way. Compare that to Moss supporting Hawthorn which ultimately led to
    him missing out on his best opportunity for a WDC - and never
    complaining about it.

    Finally, if this strange combination of decisions that could lead to
    Massa getting a WDC were allowed, imagine how many other decisions would
    start being litigated? If you can change the title 15 years after the
    event, no result would ever be "final".

    Bernie has his final(?) moment in the spotlight...and, as always, he's
    up to mischief!

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 14:48:53 2023
    Bernie has his final(?) moment in the spotlight...and, as always, he's
    up to mischief!

    +1


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    Sir Tim

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Aug 25 14:16:27 2023
    Mark <[email protected]> writes:
    This is a non-story and I'm surprised that Massa has allowed himself to
    be taken in by a ridiculous ruse that could never benefit him.

    Indeed. Good summary of the story, thanks.

    Bernie has his final(?) moment in the spotlight...and, as always, he's
    up to mischief!

    Can't we just ignore him? Can't we just trap him in a revolving door, or something?

    Phil
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