• 2023 Austrian GP

    From fleemos876@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 13:49:44 2023
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This
    has to break that record. lol

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 08:05:10 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

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  • From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Sun Jul 2 14:08:45 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before next years race.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Sun Jul 2 15:54:34 2023
    On 2023-07-02 08:05, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    I'm sorry, but the only thing that this suggests is that it's time they
    did something about the driver's ability to SEE.

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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Sun Jul 2 17:21:32 2023
    On 7/2/2023 4:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before next years race.


    nope, get rid of stupid track limits, its still equal for everyone

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Sun Jul 2 18:20:26 2023
    On 2023-07-02 5:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before next years race.

    Quite frankly, I'm in favour of strictly enforced track limits, and I do
    not believe that corners need to be re-profiled to make it easier for
    drivers to stay within the limits.

    Blind corners, off-camber corners: put a wall there and drivers would
    have no problem staying away from the wall. (Obviously, some are going
    to try going faster and sliding into the wall, but going faster is what
    it's all about, no?)

    OK, the argument that drivers have limited visibility and can't always
    tell exactly where their tires are. They can see a wall but a line on
    the ground is more difficult to spot. So give yourself a wider margin of
    error. But that means going slower. And the other guy is going to push
    harder and be faster than me. So? When he gets his five second penalty
    he'll be slower; and if he stays inside the lines and goes faster, well,
    I guess he's just a better driver.

    Sure, it was a bit of a laugh fest in Austria, but mostly because it was
    the first time that so many drivers wouldn't honour the white lines. If
    the FIA stays the course and continues to take a hard line over
    off-track excursions, I suspect drivers will quickly learn to push just
    hard enough to get maximum cornering speed without exceeding track limits.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Sun Jul 2 15:55:12 2023
    On 2023-07-02 14:08, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before next years race.

    You have no clue at all how this works.

    Push out the kerbs?

    Great! The drivers will just drive that much wider.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Darryl Johnson on Sun Jul 2 15:56:22 2023
    On 2023-07-02 15:20, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 5:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before
    next years race.

    Quite frankly, I'm in favour of strictly enforced track limits, and I do
    not believe that corners need to be re-profiled to make it easier for
    drivers to stay within the limits.

    Blind corners, off-camber corners: put a wall there and drivers would
    have no problem staying away from the wall. (Obviously, some are going
    to try going faster and sliding into the wall, but going faster is what
    it's all about, no?)

    OK, the argument that drivers have limited visibility and can't always
    tell exactly where their tires are. They can see a wall but a line on
    the ground is more difficult to spot. So give yourself a wider margin of error. But that means going slower. And the other guy is going to push
    harder and be faster than me. So? When he gets his five second penalty
    he'll be slower; and if he stays inside the lines and goes faster, well,
    I guess he's just a better driver.

    Sure, it was a bit of a laugh fest in Austria, but mostly because it was
    the first time that so many drivers wouldn't honour the white lines. If
    the FIA stays the course and continues to take a hard line over
    off-track excursions, I suspect drivers will quickly learn to push just
    hard enough to get maximum cornering speed without exceeding track limits.


    Amen to all of this.

    Like all the whining heard about not being ABLE to keep it within the
    limits.

    DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Sun Jul 2 15:58:16 2023
    On 2023-07-02 15:21, leonard hofstatder wrote:
    On 7/2/2023 4:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before
    next years race.


    nope, get rid of stupid track limits, its still equal for everyone

    So now they run out onto curbs until the cars break.

    It's equal for everyone WITH the track limits.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 2 17:32:30 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 4:55:16 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    You have no clue at all how this works.

    Push out the kerbs?

    Great! The drivers will just drive that much wider.

    you fucking cock sucking cunt

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 2 17:30:45 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 4:54:37 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I'm sorry

    sorry is for fucking pussys
    you fucking pussy

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 2 17:33:22 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 4:56:26 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER.

    you fucking queer

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 2 17:36:48 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 4:56:26 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER.

    your racing mantra
    you fucking pussy

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Jul 2 17:34:46 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 4:58:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    So now they run out onto curbs until the cars break.

    It's equal for everyone WITH the track limits.

    you fucking useless idiot

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 3 16:11:51 2023
    On 3/07/2023 10:56 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 15:20, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 5:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before
    next years race.

    Quite frankly, I'm in favour of strictly enforced track limits, and I
    do not believe that corners need to be re-profiled to make it easier
    for drivers to stay within the limits.

    Blind corners, off-camber corners: put a wall there and drivers would
    have no problem staying away from the wall. (Obviously, some are going
    to try going faster and sliding into the wall, but going faster is
    what it's all about, no?)

    OK, the argument that drivers have limited visibility and can't always
    tell exactly where their tires are. They can see a wall but a line on
    the ground is more difficult to spot. So give yourself a wider margin
    of error. But that means going slower. And the other guy is going to
    push harder and be faster than me. So? When he gets his five second
    penalty he'll be slower; and if he stays inside the lines and goes
    faster, well, I guess he's just a better driver.

    Sure, it was a bit of a laugh fest in Austria, but mostly because it
    was the first time that so many drivers wouldn't honour the white
    lines. If the FIA stays the course and continues to take a hard line
    over off-track excursions, I suspect drivers will quickly learn to
    push just hard enough to get maximum cornering speed without exceeding
    track limits.


    Amen to all of this.

    Like all the whining heard about not being ABLE to keep it within the
    limits.

    DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER.

    Not necessarily slower, but better.

    geoff

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  • From fleemos876@21:1/5 to Darryl Johnson on Mon Jul 3 03:20:54 2023
    On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 18:20:26 -0400, Darryl Johnson wrote:

    On 2023-07-02 5:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little before
    next years race.

    Quite frankly, I'm in favour of strictly enforced track limits, and I do
    not believe that corners need to be re-profiled to make it easier for
    drivers to stay within the limits.

    Blind corners, off-camber corners: put a wall there and drivers would
    have no problem staying away from the wall. (Obviously, some are going
    to try going faster and sliding into the wall, but going faster is what
    it's all about, no?)

    OK, the argument that drivers have limited visibility and can't always
    tell exactly where their tires are. They can see a wall but a line on
    the ground is more difficult to spot. So give yourself a wider margin of error. But that means going slower. And the other guy is going to push
    harder and be faster than me. So? When he gets his five second penalty
    he'll be slower; and if he stays inside the lines and goes faster, well,
    I guess he's just a better driver.

    Sure, it was a bit of a laugh fest in Austria, but mostly because it was
    the first time that so many drivers wouldn't honour the white lines. If
    the FIA stays the course and continues to take a hard line over
    off-track excursions, I suspect drivers will quickly learn to push just
    hard enough to get maximum cornering speed without exceeding track
    limits.

    I agree with you. I was listening to the Chequered Flag podcast where they discussed this a fair bit. One thought was that if the runoff there was
    not concrete so it would at least penalize them with some loss of
    traction, that would work. Sand or gravel was suggested but that always
    gets thrown onto the track when someone runs into it. If the FIA sticks to
    the rules on this, I bet would bet they'd have a lot less of these
    penalties in the future.Of course the FIA stewards are quite devoid of consistency so one can only hope.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Dan the Man on Mon Jul 3 16:09:07 2023
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 3 16:10:17 2023
    On 3/07/2023 10:54 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 08:05, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    I'm sorry, but the only thing that this suggests is that it's time they
    did something about the driver's ability to SEE.

    But many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    geoff

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun Jul 2 21:31:22 2023
    On 2023-07-02 21:09, geoff wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    The one thing I'd like to see is a more technological solution to the
    problem of determining whether or not a car has all wheels over the line.

    Surely you could build sensors that determined the car's position and orientation, which together with knowing the cars dimensions should be
    able to tell you if all four wheels are over.

    You could even give the driver cockpit feedback to let him know how
    close he got, because frankly: they can't see enough to easily judge
    with vision alone.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Sun Jul 2 21:33:29 2023
    On 2023-07-02 21:11, geoff wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 10:56 am, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 15:20, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 5:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a
    race? This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little
    before next years race.

    Quite frankly, I'm in favour of strictly enforced track limits, and I
    do not believe that corners need to be re-profiled to make it easier
    for drivers to stay within the limits.

    Blind corners, off-camber corners: put a wall there and drivers would
    have no problem staying away from the wall. (Obviously, some are
    going to try going faster and sliding into the wall, but going faster
    is what it's all about, no?)

    OK, the argument that drivers have limited visibility and can't
    always tell exactly where their tires are. They can see a wall but a
    line on the ground is more difficult to spot. So give yourself a
    wider margin of error. But that means going slower. And the other guy
    is going to push harder and be faster than me. So? When he gets his
    five second penalty he'll be slower; and if he stays inside the lines
    and goes faster, well, I guess he's just a better driver.

    Sure, it was a bit of a laugh fest in Austria, but mostly because it
    was the first time that so many drivers wouldn't honour the white
    lines. If the FIA stays the course and continues to take a hard line
    over off-track excursions, I suspect drivers will quickly learn to
    push just hard enough to get maximum cornering speed without
    exceeding track limits.


    Amen to all of this.

    Like all the whining heard about not being ABLE to keep it within the
    limits.

    DRIVE A LITTLE SLOWER.

    Not necessarily slower, but better.

    Yeah... ...pretty much necessarily slower.

    That's the whole point.

    You get on the throttle a little sooner and if you don't get caught for
    going over the line, you are just a little faster down the next straight.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 3 18:08:39 2023
    On 3/07/2023 4:31 pm, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-07-02 21:09, geoff wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even
    won the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without
    transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    The one thing I'd like to see is a more technological solution to the
    problem of determining whether or not a car has all wheels over the line.

    Surely you could build sensors that determined the car's position and orientation, which together with knowing the cars dimensions should be
    able to tell you if all four wheels are over.

    You could even give the driver cockpit feedback to let him know how
    close he got, because frankly: they can't see enough to easily judge
    with vision alone.


    You'd think, eh. Hardly rocket-surgery.

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Mon Jul 3 21:10:02 2023
    On 3/07/2023 9:01 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    geoff <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that
    took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing. >>
    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    We know from Monaco that they are capable of driving within millimetres of walls. in Austria they were simply trying to push the envelope.


    And some got pinged. And some seemingly didn't.

    geoff

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Jul 3 09:01:30 2023
    geoff <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that
    took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    We know from Monaco that they are capable of driving within millimetres of walls. in Austria they were simply trying to push the envelope.

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Mon Jul 3 08:13:37 2023
    On 2023-07-03 02:01, Sir Tim wrote:
    geoff <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race? This >>>> has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that
    took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let
    up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won
    the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without transgressing. >>
    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    We know from Monaco that they are capable of driving within millimetres of walls. in Austria they were simply trying to push the envelope.

    It's more than that.

    You can see the walls from an F1 cockpit, because they're WALLS and thus
    come up higher.

    By the time you get out to the white line, you can't see any part of it
    close to your car.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Jul 3 08:14:10 2023
    On 2023-07-03 02:10, geoff wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 9:01 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    geoff <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 3/07/2023 3:05 am, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a race?
    This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance that >>>> took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply let >>>> up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Though many drivers managed to avoid getting penalised, and one even won >>> the race. So it was possible to drive competitively without
    transgressing.

    My issue is that some drivers appeared to be crossing the lines in
    question with impunity.

    We know from Monaco that they are capable of driving within
    millimetres of
    walls. in Austria they were simply trying to push the envelope.


    And some got pinged. And some seemingly didn't.

    I think the important word there is "seemingly".

    We really don't know.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jul 3 21:15:57 2023
    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 9:14:13 AM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    I think

    well it goes sideways right there

    We really don't know.

    the queer community?

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to leonard hofstatder on Sun Jul 9 10:03:33 2023
    leonard hofstatder <[email protected]> writes:
    On 7/2/2023 4:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:05:11 AM UTC-7, Dan the Man wrote:
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-4, fleemos876 wrote:
    What's the record for most 5 second penalties handed out in a
    race? This
    has to break that record. lol
    I'm too lazy to look up the record, but it really was an annoyance
    that took attention away from some good racing.
    Will they modify that corner next time around, or will they simply
    let up on track limits? Stay tuned.

    Dan

    Turn 10 and a couple others need the curbs pushed out a little
    before next years race.

    nope, get rid of stupid track limits, its still equal for everyone

    You do realise that that will turn the race into a doughnut competition
    around the start/finish line, don't you?

    Phil
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