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"Why Hamilton’s claim about the scale of Red Bull’s dominance doesn’t stack up
2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix stats and facts
Posted on 22nd March 2023, 13:13 | Written by Keith Collantine

After Red Bull dominated the second race of the 2023 Formula 1 season, a
glum Lewis Hamilton claimed they are as far ahead of the chasing pack as
his team once were.

That’s a big claim to make. Mercedes annihilated the competition when
the V6 hybrid turbo era began nine years ago and remained in that
position for three years. It may not have been the all-time high
watermark of domination by a car and team, but it was the most one-sided contest any driver on the grid today has experienced.
We’ve only seen what the Red Bull RB19 can do in two competitive outings
so far this year. But last weekend’s race in Jeddah was enough to crush
their rivals’ hopes that the Bahrain International Circuit had flattered
its capabilities. No one is in any doubt that this year’s championship
is Red Bull’s to lose.

Nonetheless this early look at their performance has to come with the
caveat that we haven’t seen what they can do across all tyre types and
track configurations. Perhaps an ‘outlier’ venue like Singapore will
catch them out, as memorably happened to Mercedes in 2015.

But based on the limited data available so far, it seems the RB19 is not
quite a match for the formidable Mercedes cars of 2014 to 2016. In terms
of pure qualifying pace, its advantage is quite a bit less. Taking the
average performance advantage of the four cars over those seasons, the
RB19 falls well short of the three Mercedes:

Average lap time advantage in qualifying for four cars
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
0.8
1.0
2014
Mercedes
W05
2015
Mercedes
W06
2016
Mercedes
W07
2023 Red Bull
RB19
Average deficit to fastest lap (%)
Team
Car Lap time advantage over next quickest car (%)
2014 Mercedes W05 0.833
2015 Mercedes W06 0.703
2016 Mercedes W07 0.842
2023 Red Bull RB19 0.25
This may slightly under-read how far ahead Red Bull are. Max Verstappen
lapped up to half a second quicker than his team mate Sergio Perez in
Jeddah until he was sidelined by a driveshaft failure. It’s likely he
could have set a faster pole position time, though likely not enough to
put their advantage on a par with a 2014-16 Mercedes.

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While Red Bull’s advantage in qualifying is in the order of a few tenths
of a second, in the race it is far more. At times last weekend they were
up to a second per lap faster than their rivals, notably once they
switched to the hard tyre in the second half of the race. That advantage dissipated as the tyres degraded:

2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix lap times
Max Verstappen
Sergio Perez
Lewis Hamilton
George Russell
Fernando Alonso
10
20
30
40
50
92
94
96
98
100
102
104
106
Lap
Time (s)
Lap Max Verstappen Sergio Perez Lewis Hamilton George Russell Fernando
Alonso
1 105.222 97.257 101.038 98.652 96.851
2 97.68 95.906 97.188 96.114 95.567
3 96.526 94.829 96.628 95.3 95.14
4 96.503 95.651 96.263 95.596 96.664
5 95.359 94.873 95.867 95.423 94.92
6 95.84 94.621 95.973 95.477 94.658
7 95.687 94.277 96.093 95.256 94.422
8 95.129 94.477 96.122 95.157 94.398
9 95.561 94.255 96.978 95.89 94.4
10 95.443 94.106 95.976 95.265 94.835
11 95.306 94.075 95.909 95.4 94.982
12 94.848 94.16 96.568 95.283 94.927
13 95.183 94.263 95.822 95.043 94.918
14 94.2 94.409 95.708 94.94 94.837
15 94.499 94.392 95.693 94.946 94.717
16 94.443 94.19 95.228 95.12 94.842
17 93.79 93.961 95.047 94.892 94.595
18 134.348 127.357 136.76 132.217 129.623
19 167.259 190.334 160.428 175.488 184.156
20 156.511 160.799 154.637 157.575 159.344
21 96.946 94.557 97.234 96.802 96.033
22 94.973 93.895 95.182 95.07 94.738
23 94.115 93.464 94.715 94.958 94.771
24 94.146 93.44 94.335 95.063 94.836
25 92.933 93.426 94.734 94.106 94.136
26 92.94 93.072 93.998 94.493 94.119
27 92.838 92.891 93.985 94.118 94.246
28 92.869 93.025 94.234 94.091 94.062
29 92.67 92.726 94.186 93.688 93.988
30 92.877 92.726 94.447 94.165 93.654
31 92.382 92.554 93.846 93.433 93.605
32 92.4 92.498 94.071 93.633 93.401
33 92.387 92.55 93.874 93.52 93.337
34 92.341 92.294 93.864 93.758 93.22
35 92.249 92.68 93.887 93.756 93.514
36 92.384 92.292 93.39 93.625 93.323
37 92.496 92.638 93.625 93.524 93.175
38 93.123 92.188 93.653 93.42 93.174
39 92.432 93.19 93.383 93.555 93.249
40 92.606 92.83 93.507 93.459 92.768
41 92.638 92.637 93.22 92.998 93.127
42 92.274 92.235 93.314 93.041 93.156
43 92.343 92.308 93.011 93.083 93.207
44 92.848 92.267 93.099 93.243 93.189
45 92.968 92.419 93.054 92.917 93.075
46 93.148 92.933 93.316 92.982 92.979
47 93.238 92.895 92.941 92.901 92.887
48 93.607 93.075 93.367 92.756 92.802
49 93.835 93.306 93.537 93.135 92.815
50 91.906 93.691 93.024 92.433 92.24
But Mercedes’ advantage was greater in the races as well in their
dominant years. During the second race of the V6 hybrid turbo era in
Bahrain, Hamilton and team mate Nico Rosberg faced off in a battle for
victory which revealed just how much quicker they were than the chasing
pack.

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Following a late-race Safety Car period, Hamilton and Rosberg left their pursuers behind at a staggering margin of up to 2.8 seconds per lap.
That’s more than double what we saw from Red Bull in Jeddah.

2014 Bahrain Grand Prix lap times
Nico Rosberg
Lewis Hamilton
Valtteri Bottas
Sergio Perez
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Kevin Magnussen
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Daniil Kvyat
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Esteban Gutierrez
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Jules Bianchi
Marcus Ericsson
Max Chilton
Adrian Sutil
10
20
30
40
50
96
98
100
102
104
106
108
110
Lap
Time (s)
Lap Nico Rosberg Lewis Hamilton Valtteri Bottas Sergio Perez Kimi Raikkonen Jenson Button Felipe Massa Kevin Magnussen Fernando Alonso Sebastian Vettel Nico Hulkenberg Daniil Kvyat Daniel Ricciardo Jean-Eric
Vergne Esteban Gutierrez Romain Grosjean Pastor Maldonado Kamui Kobayashi Jules Bianchi Marcus Ericsson Max Chilton Adrian Sutil
1 103.487 102.467 106.24 105.657 108.461 106.612 104.407 109.266 107.396 108.847 107.757 110.277 109.767 150.538 110.522 113.64 111.296 113.503
112.355 113.491 114.381 114.175
2 100.938 100.928 101.493 101.131 102.267 101.953 101.241 102.533
102.061 102.34 102.12 102.624 102.582 132.49 103.23 104.332 103.605
105.236 103.78 104.431 105.549 105.388
3 100.566 100.627 101.676 101.549 102.272 101.754 101.384 102.391
101.917 102.498 102.081 102.381 102.421 102.541 102.893 102.079 102.853
103.724 103.286 104.076 104.414 103.936
4 100.872 100.544 101.538 101.512 102.249 101.585 101.507 102.465
101.994 102.353 101.92 102.711 102.567 103.507 102.889 102.627 102.946
103.833 104.009 103.874 103.675 103.944
5 100.978 100.78 101.738 101.43 102.105 101.797 101.902 102.213 103.054 102.127 101.449 102.445 102.252 103.624 103.249 102.465 102.661 103.191
103.861 104.745 103.988 104.074
6 100.985 101.025 102.197 102.072 102.285 102.017 102.071 102.475
102.533 102.234 101.993 102.634 102.386 103.405 104.414 103.282 103.179
103.261 103.504 103.922 105.005 104.71
7 100.888 100.839 102.543 102.452 102.681 102.371 102.334 103.052
102.639 102.594 101.97 102.929 103.049 104.07 103.461 103.003 103.182
103.407 103.972 104.02 104.776 107.797
8 100.823 100.945 102.847 102.255 102.965 102.677 102.322 103.017
102.328 102.777 102.415 102.857 102.933 103.759 103.319 104.173 103.465
103.553 103.73 104.524 103.906 123.813
9 100.989 100.842 102.835 102.432 102.733 102.752 102.446 103.376
102.667 102.991 102.657 103.797 103.655 104.061 103.553 103.289 103.104
103.94 104.349 104.406 104.116 101.791
10 100.994 101.182 108.066 102.61 103.061 102.6 102.653 103.378 103.047 103.008 102.712 106.071 103.147 106.436 103.825 103.579 103.348 104.057
108.048 105.021 104.385 102.068
11 101.306 101.174 121.274 102.789 103.203 102.569 103.089 104.985
102.879 103.059 102.545 121.863 102.986 104.12 104.28 103.655 103.374
104.277 124.368 108.497 107.946 102.741
12 101.336 101.377 100.421 103.598 103.171 103.2 105.072 104.676 105.825 103.212 103.045 100.16 101.971 104.256 108.755 103.926 103.619 104.843
103.01 124.562 123.837 103.368
13 101.398 101.421 101.039 103.53 106.504 103.402 106.713 104.501
121.597 103.45 103.403 101.191 102.568 104.368 122.167 106.395 103.649
105.069 140.817 102.476 102.627 237.745
14 101.851 101.751 100.831 103.018 121.948 103.482 120.788 107.608
100.599 103.183 103.554 101.806 102.888 107.361 100.99 123.202 103.672
105.998 131.812 102.326 102.305 139.565
15 101.671 102.002 101.984 102.953 100.145 103.507 100.86 122.298
100.655 104.129 106.353 101.718 103.058 124.286 102.033 101.294 104.035
108.056 103.617 102.661 102.63 107.011
16 101.494 101.775 101.172 106.155 101.788 103.846 101.191 101.624
101.283 106.407 119.745 101.976 102.544 101.65 101.762 101.494 104.078
125.956 110.207 102.707 102.806 105.573
17 101.455 101.802 101.256 121.025 100.982 105.97 101.074 101.527 101.5 120.896 99.468 103.083 102.589 103.061 101.959 101.626 104.95 101.246
105.803 103.044 103.008 105.641
18 102.587 102.621 100.679 100.186 102.383 120.999 100.656 101.543
101.565 99.312 100.59 102.384 105.627 105.282 102.083 101.868 104.68
102.003 111.326 103.487 103.402
19 103.965 106.545 101.138 100.292 101.613 100.69 100.643 101.387 102.78 101.006 100.28 104.254 121.606 103.342 101.718 107.299 102.575 120.569 105.073 103.362
20 101.442 119.311 101.32 100.105 101.333 100.614 101.018 101.003
101.719 99.952 99.84 102.595 100.383 102.339 102.104 121.556 102.375 104.563 104.434 103.489
21 104.439 99.765 101.145 100.4 101.977 100.689 100.81 100.774 101.356 100.225 100.416 102.877 100.604 102.48 101.956 100.17 102.495 104.424 104.369 104.586
22 121.019 99.666 101.409 100.582 101.123 101.063 101.159 100.954
101.478 101.078 100.54 102.489 100.448 102.756 102.042 101.122 102.722 104.572 104.13 103.786
23 99.886 100.357 101.611 100.734 101.21 101.023 101.673 101.391 101.824 101.336 100.727 102.768 100.65 102.847 102.033 101.326 102.677 106.132 104.378 103.886
24 100.178 99.743 101.918 101.548 102.551 101.124 101.827 102.31 101.916 101.783 101.86 104.998 100.661 103.424 102.081 101.101 103.418 104.735 105.258 103.974
25 100.227 99.809 105.469 102.253 102.682 100.91 102.668 104.566 101.949 101.27 102.332 123.019 101.163 103.308 102.441 102.034 103.186 104.875 105.428 104.422
26 100.367 100.042 121.154 102.401 102.059 101.71 102.477 120.521
102.017 101.242 103.312 101.648 101.616 104.147 102.286 101.77 103.441 104.711 108.398 104.567
27 100.285 100.045 100.343 101.915 102.249 100.767 102.118 100.298
102.444 101.103 102.066 101.716 102.402 106.65 102.563 101.796 103.419 105.855 123.869 104.449
28 100.325 100.098 100.035 101.796 102.18 101.38 106.906 100.578 104.754 101.619 102.326 101.57 102.218 122.52 105.789 101.813 103.487 105.438 101.134 108.259
29 100.443 100.25 100.323 101.321 102.654 101.275 120.775 100.757
120.203 101.198 101.046 102.103 102.688 101.014 121.653 101.609 104.305 106.566 101.697 125.439
30 100.262 100.141 100.03 101.138 101.974 101.242 99.665 101.115 99.923 101.853 101.173 101.691 102.093 103.156 100.943 101.758 103.879 106.587 101.718 101.831
31 100.412 100.176 102.82 101.203 102.246 101.08 100.211 100.806 100.326 102.057 101.139 101.915 102.032 101.124 100.413 101.71 103.623 108.9 102.235 102.13
32 100.487 99.793 101.713 101.491 104.443 101.336 99.857 101.013 100.368 102.205 101.869 102.39 102.126 100.698 100.467 101.754 103.979 126.212 102.26 103.075
33 100.17 100.25 101.598 101.448 106.576 101.408 100.118 102.322 100.503 102.931 101.833 102.089 101.948 101.203 100.881 102.024 103.776 102.661 102.195 102.882
34 100.367 99.93 100.653 104.586 121.554 101.518 100.695 101.075 100.602 105.842 101.703 101.902 102.615 101.431 101.114 101.77 104.13 103.148
102.926
35 100.288 99.915 101.014 119.773 99.438 104.279 100.471 101.329 100.96 123.224 104.978 101.569 105.047 103.696 101.244 101.995 107.179 103.463
103.015
36 100.536 100.267 101.347 99.32 99.836 120.104 100.845 102.589 100.951 100.264 119.617 101.26 119.885 101.283 101.497 102.358 126.166 105.631
103.922
37 100.356 100.185 100.713 99.597 101.545 99.565 100.41 102.019 100.99 99.866 98.785 101.409 99.294 101.488 104.529 102.358 101.844 104.902
102.506
38 100.446 100.341 100.569 99.894 101.748 100.035 103.376 104.917
100.608 99.815 99.516 101.777 99.269 101.828 121.611 102.182 102.417 103.262 102.549
39 100.12 100.12 100.759 99.82 100.913 99.97 119.057 120.414 101.084 99.949 99.552 104.2 99.566 102.682 99.443 105.975 102.376 120.018 103.01
40 100.535 100.796 103.949 100.484 100.509 100.569 99.272 100.108
100.736 99.784 99.924 127.457 99.316 106.778 140.719 116.262 126.736
119.645
41 107.842 103.783 140.344 118.32 122.12 118.573 119.661 121.327 119.026 116.666 124.016 118.526 123.297 153.398 127.597 126.8 144.624
42 152.295 164.955 122.601 125.145 140.885 123.447 123.726 142.95 123.421 125.655 115.083 123.061 115.627 136.97 126.723 109.012 109.686
43 146.05 145.687 112.206 118.486 115.925 115.919 114.117 108.283 112.832 118.99 108.29 116.187 109.071 111.18 114.946 102.727 109.945
44 153.717 153.582 143.091 152.962 118.875 152.57 143.308 142.407 146.529 152.717 114.236 143.46 113.522 100.678 106.376 102.175 107.474
45 141.868 142.046 141.455 140.454 141.769 140.098 141.023 141.656 140.413 140.402 141.598 141.132 141.779 101.614 104.706 106.393 104.377
46 141.446 142.278 137.76 141.864 136.286 140.524 138.299 137.185 139.844 140.924 136.01 138.54 135.41 128.919 115.964 103.804 115.246
47 98.104 98.037 101.287 100.741 101.22 102.323 101.248 101.28 100.817
101.05 101.472 100.657 101.898 104.445 104.077 103.926 102.169
48 97.808 97.306 100.394 100.06 101.296 102.354 99.897 101.531 99.858
100.35 101.112 100.189 101.302 129.088 103.444 103.486 101.825
49 97.02 97.108 100.001 99.8 101.366 101.175 100.04 101.188 100.289
99.92 101.306 99.872 101.351 100.956 106.384 103.859 102.168
50 97.374 97.656 99.762 99.809 101.273 101.766 100.136 100.006 100.406
100.302 101.764 99.809 101.346 100.27 105.769 103.72 102.38
51 97.808 97.855 100.221 100.035 100.038 101.73 100.384 99.76 100.563
100.529 101.119 100.448 101.164 99.725 104.268 103.423 102.257
52 99.494 99.481 101.187 100.112 100.001 100.709 100.891 99.875 100.861
100.79 101.026 100.855 100.76 99.666 105.331 103.268 102.579
53 99.526 99.277 100.096 100.032 99.881 100.131 100.367 99.732 100.517
101.042 101.085 99.735 101.182 100.661 104.877 104.671 102.237
54 98.125 97.941 100.578 99.927 100.148 100.27 100.513 100.762 100.476
100.222 101.349 99.43 101.789 99.894 104.624 106.089 102.829
55 97.898 97.923 100.773 100.097 100.004 140.85 100.54 100.553 100.662
100.368 101.221 99.709 101.142 100.145 106.054 105.454 102.582
56 97.822 97.794 101.294 100.166 100.559 101.527 101.125 101.065
100.545 101.19 99.299 101.56 100.197 106.725 104.944 101.945
57 98.458 98.387 100.71 100.345 100.943 100.57 100.688 100.024 100.314
101.605 99.703 102.171 99.845 107.894 107.863
Verstappen’s driveshaft. failure allowed Perez to grab the second pole position of his career at the same venue where he scored his first 12
months earlier. He went on to claim his fifth grand prix victory.


Perez is now a five-times race winner
Perez now has as many wins as Giuseppe Farina, Keke Rosberg, Clay
Regazzoni, John Watson, Michele Alboreto and Charles Leclerc. However
his pole-win ratio is strikingly different to that of Leclerc, who has
18 pole positions to his name.
Red Bull scored their 24th one-two, yet remarkably this is only the
second time in F1 history they have filled the top steps of the podium
in back-to-back races. The sole previous occasion predated all their
world championship successes.

Their drivers have also reversed positions in both instances. Verstappen
won in Bahrain and Perez did in Saudi Arabia, and 14 years ago it was
Sebastian Vettel who won at Silverstone while Mark Webber did the same
in the next round at the Nurburgring, the pair finishing runner-up to
each other in those two races.

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Verstappen ensured he claimed the bonus point, taking the fastest lap
for the 22nd time in his career. He also equalled his longest
points-scoring run of 21 races, which stretches back to last year’s Australian Grand Prix. The record of 48 is held by Hamilton.

Fernando Alonso, Aston Martin, Jeddah Corniche Circuit, 2023
Alonso was eventually confirmed in third place
Verstappen raced from 15th on the grid to finish second. Had he gone one
better he would have been only the second driver in F1 history to win
from 15th on the grid, the other being Fernando Alonso in the notorious
2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
After some back-and-forth with the stewards in Jeddah, Alonso’s 100th
podium finish was confirmed. Continuing his strong start to the season,
this was the first time he had taken back-to-back podiums since
finishing second in the Italian and Singapore grands prix for Ferrari in
2013.

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