I'm not sure if it was just getting back into watching or bad camera work but the cars did not look as quick as in years past to me. I noticed this mostly in the long shots and when they followed a single car around curves.
In fairness, when there was tight action (e.g., the Alonzo fight with Sainz) it looked right but a lot of the race just looked slow.
I'm not sure if it was just getting back into watching or bad camera work but the cars did not look as quick as in years past to me. I noticed this mostly in the long shots and when they followed a single car around curves.
In fairness, when there was tight action (e.g., the Alonzo fight with Sainz) it looked right but a lot of the race just looked slow.
FWIW
DLM
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
This is actually a really good point. Maybe I was seeing smooth and stable as slower.
Until your post, it didn't occur to me that we were not seeing the wicked bouncing we saw last year.
On 2023-03-06 04:28, D Munz wrote:
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
This is actually a really good point. Maybe I was seeing smooth and stable as slower.
Until your post, it didn't occur to me that we were not seeing the wicked bouncing we saw last year.Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
On 2023-03-06 04:28, D Munz wrote:
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
This is actually a really good point. Maybe I was seeing smooth and stable as slower.
Until your post, it didn't occur to me that we were not seeing the wicked bouncing we saw last year.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm (to help prevent bouncing). How did you determine the cars were lower?
On 3/6/2023 2:43 PM, jb343 wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
On 2023-03-06 04:28, D Munz wrote:
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
This is actually a really good point. Maybe I was seeing smooth and stable as slower.
Until your post, it didn't occur to me that we were not seeing the wicked bouncing we saw last year.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm (to help prevent bouncing). How did you determine the cars were lower?Lots of Ti rub strip sparks...
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-8, News wrote:
On 3/6/2023 2:43 PM, jb343 wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm (to
help prevent bouncing). How did you determine the cars were
lower?
Lots of Ti rub strip sparks...
Just like last year in Bahrain.
On 3/7/2023 11:12 AM, jb343 wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-8, News wrote:
On 3/6/2023 2:43 PM, jb343 wrote:
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the *floor edge height* 15 mm.Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm (to
help prevent bouncing). How did you determine the cars were
lower?
"Ride height" is not legislated.
Lots of Ti rub strip sparks...
Just like last year in Bahrain."Rub strips" are in the plank.
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On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 3/6/2023 2:43 PM, jb343 wrote:
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm
(to help prevent bouncing).
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the *floor edge height* 15
mm. "Ride height" is not legislated.
Thanks Mark for the correction. If the floor edge height is raised,
isn't the ride height raised (probably depends on spring rates,
preload, and all that)? I guess I was wondering about the comment
that the cars are lower.
On 3/7/2023 3:27 PM, jb343 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-8, Mark Jackson wrote:
On 3/6/2023 2:43 PM, jb343 wrote:
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm
(to help prevent bouncing).
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the *floor edge height* 15
mm. "Ride height" is not legislated.
Thanks Mark for the correction. If the floor edge height is raised,
isn't the ride height raised (probably depends on spring rates,
preload, and all that)? I guess I was wondering about the comment
that the cars are lower.
AIUI the lower limit of ride height is, ideally, determined by bottoming
/ wear of the plank. Last year many teams had to run higher because of bouncing / porpoising. This year the floor edge is higher relative to
the plank, which reduces ground effect at a given ride height - but presumably teams can recover some of this by running lower without experiencing bouncing.
Anyway that's what I think is going on. Informed corrections welcome.
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
On 2023-03-06 04:28, D Munz wrote:
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:40:21 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:Two things were visible to me that I thought significant.
I thought the cars looked a lot more stable today.
We'll all got used them bouncing and we just didn't see that today.
This is actually a really good point. Maybe I was seeing smooth and stable as slower.
Until your post, it didn't occur to me that we were not seeing the wicked bouncing we saw last year.
1. The cars weren't bouncing (or only barely).
2. The cars were running lower to the ground.
The rule change for 2023 was to raise the ride height 15 mm (to help prevent bouncing). How did you determine the cars were lower?
That's basically the way I read the situation.
I'm not sure if it was just getting back into watching or bad camera work but the cars did not look as quick as in years past to me. I noticed this mostly in the long shots and when they followed a single car around curves.The cars look much too quick, to be honest. Spectating is more akin to video gaming.
In fairness, when there was tight action (e.g., the Alonzo fight with Sainz) it looked right but a lot of the race just looked slow.
FWIW
DLM
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