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  • **2023 Pool** Drive and Constructor championships

    From Ar@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 11:28:39 2023
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..

    0430 Los Angeles
    0730 New York
    1130 in GMT
    1230 CET
    1430 in Bahrain (the track)
    1930 Perth
    2030 Tokyo
    2230 Melbourne / Sydney

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  • From Ar@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 11:39:51 2023
    On 26/02/2023 11:28, Ar wrote:

    My 2023 prediction.

    Driver: Charles Leclerc
    Constructor: Ferrari

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 08:56:57 2023
    On 2023-02-26 6:28 AM, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.


    Driver: Russell
    Team: Red Bull

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  • From Hornplayer9599@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 09:06:01 2023
    On 2/26/2023 05:28, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..

    0430 Los Angeles
    0730 New York
    1130 in GMT
    1230 CET
    1430 in Bahrain (the track)
    1930 Perth
    2030 Tokyo
    2230 Melbourne / Sydney


    WDC: VER

    WCC: Red Bull

    With that said, Merc will make things more interesting this season.
    --

    Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
    --Carl Sagan

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 10:18:24 2023
    DC: Max Verstappen
    CC: Ferrari

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    The irrationality of a thing is no argument
    against its existence, rather a condition of it.
    - Friedrich Nietzsche

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  • From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 09:04:24 2023
    Ver/RB
    In F1 you just assume that last year is preview until happily proven wrong.

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  • From D Munz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 08:34:59 2023
    For 2023:

    Driver: Leclerc
    Constructor: Red Bull

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  • From Cristhian Morales@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 26 20:25:34 2023
    Ar <[email protected]> wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Driver: Leclerc
    Constructor: Ferrari
    --
    [email protected]
    SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

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  • From Jimbo@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 18:37:06 2023
    On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 6:28:41 AM UTC-5, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    WDC: Charles Leclerc
    WCC: Ferrari

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 26 23:21:38 2023
    On 2023-02-26 03:28, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..

    0430 Los Angeles
    0730 New York
    1130 in GMT
    1230 CET
    1430 in Bahrain (the track)
    1930 Perth
    2030 Tokyo
    2230 Melbourne / Sydney

    No brainer.

    Verstappen and Red Bull.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 27 07:24:37 2023
    Ar <[email protected]> wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023

    WDC: Verstappen
    WCC: Red Bull

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From John Milner@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 12:02:08 2023
    On 26/02/2023 11:28, Ar wrote:

    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    WDC: Verstappen
    WCC: Red Bull

    --
    JohnM

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Feb 27 05:22:40 2023
    On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:21:41 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

    No brainer.

    well that fits you
    you fucking stinking rotten cock sucker
    fuck off back to rec.sport.golf

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 27 16:44:39 2023
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 11:28:39 +0000, Ar <[email protected]> wrote:

    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..

    0430 Los Angeles
    0730 New York
    1130 in GMT
    1230 CET
    1430 in Bahrain (the track)
    1930 Perth
    2030 Tokyo
    2230 Melbourne / Sydney

    Ham/Merc

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 27 19:18:06 2023
    Ar <[email protected]> writes:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    I know things are always in flux, but RB are too far ahead, so
    the brain's going for:

    WCC: Red Bull
    WDC: Verstappen

    Hoping to be kept on my toes...

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Mon Feb 27 10:15:40 2023
    On 2/26/23 09:04, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Ver/RB

    In F1 you just assume that last year is preview until happily proven wrong.

    Yes. In the last 25 years that has been pretty true.

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  • From Darryl Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 27 17:45:08 2023
    On 2023-02-27 1:15 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/26/23 09:04, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Ver/RB

    In F1 you just assume that last year is preview until happily proven
    wrong.

    Yes.  In the last 25 years that has been pretty true.




    Same with forecasting the weather. Tomorrow is more than likely to be
    similar to today.

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  • From Sreekumar A@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 19:09:53 2023
    On 26-02-2023 16:58, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..

    WCC : Red Bull
    WDC : VER

    Sreekumar A

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Darryl Johnson on Wed Mar 1 14:41:06 2023
    On 2/27/23 14:45, Darryl Johnson wrote:
    On 2023-02-27 1:15 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 2/26/23 09:04, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Ver/RB

    In F1 you just assume that last year is preview until happily proven
    wrong.

    Yes.  In the last 25 years that has been pretty true.

    Same with forecasting the weather. Tomorrow is more than likely to be
    similar to today.


    True enough now, for both those cases.

    But the timing of peak and ebbs was different in the
    past in F1.
    see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_World_Drivers%27_Champions

    For the 10 years from 1960 thru 1969,
    nobody repeated with back to back WDC wins.

    For the 10 years from 1970 thru 1979,
    nobody repeated with back to back WDC wins.

    It was not until the 1980s,
    for the 10 years from 1980 thru 1989,
    only Alain Prost won 2 years in a row
    (with an amazing underdog performance in 1986).

    Then, in the 10 years from 1990 thru 1999,
    we had Senna win in 1990, and repeat in 1991,
    and Michael Schumacher in 1994, and repeat in 1995,
    Mika Hakkinen in 1998 and repeat in 1999.

    And after that the ebbs and flows became long term.
    Michael Schumacher won the WDC 5 times straight 2000 thru 2005.
    And Alonso won it back to back 2005 and 2006.

    And then from 2010 thru 2013 Sebastion Vettel won it 4 years straight.
    Then Lewis Hamilton won it 2 years 2014 and 2015, one year off,
    then came back to win it 4 more years straight.

    Why have the 'cycles' of peaks changed from frequent to
    multiple year trends?

    I think one reason is the bigger and bigger money in F1.
    In the 1960's and 1970's a fresh new idea or innovation
    could win the WDC. But then others saw and copied.
    Now big money in research shows results, and these
    results build on each other, year, after year.

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  • From EB5AGV@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 14:21:00 2023
    Driver: Hamilton
    Constructor: Mercedes

    I know the logical thing would be Verstappen and Red Bull... but that could mean a boring season and I prefer some change.

    (although my heart would like to put Alonso / Aston Martin :-D )

    Jose

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 2 00:19:33 2023
    a425couple <[email protected]> writes:
    On 2/26/23 09:04, XYXPDQ wrote:
    Ver/RB

    In F1 you just assume that last year is preview until happily proven wrong.

    Yes. In the last 25 years that has been pretty true.

    So, who's willing to put in predictions for 2024 too? And 2025?

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From durian@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 2 09:27:34 2023
    On 2023-02-26, Ar <[email protected]> wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    WDC: Verstappen
    WCC: Red Bull

    -peter

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 2 11:55:25 2023
    Ar <[email protected]> wrote:

    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    I'll go with:

    WCC: Red Bull
    WDC: Hamilton

    I think after last year, Hamilton will have a lot to prove...and I
    suspect Mercedes is not as much of a mess as last year...but I don't
    expect them to be at the front for at least 3-4 races, while Red Bull is
    going to be fast off the blocks.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Mar 2 12:18:41 2023
    Ar <[email protected]> wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, just bragging rights, write your
    prediction in to this thread.

    Posting for ceg...

    WDC: VER
    WCC: Red Bull

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 08:06:31 2023
    On 2/26/23 03:28, Ar wrote:
    Who do you think will win the driver and constructor championships in
    2023, for no money whatsoever, ---

    Entries close on Friday 03 March 2023 before free practice 1 starts..


    a425couple predicts
    WDC - VER
    WCC - RED BULL

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