• More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying

    From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 14 13:14:32 2022
    More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying which bring out red flags to thwart the laps of others.

    Perez in Monaco the latest one;

    Tom Coronel - Sergio Perez 'admitted' to Red Bull that Monaco crash was deliberate - www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/sergio-perez-monaco-crash-verstappen-28481448

    (The Russell one in Brazil looked suspicious too)

    Drivers who cause red flags should qualify last in their session - that would stop both the cases and the conspiracy theories.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Tue Nov 15 14:23:47 2022
    On 11/14/22 13:14, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying which bring out red flags to thwart the laps of others.

    Perez in Monaco the latest one;

    Tom Coronel - Sergio Perez 'admitted' to Red Bull that Monaco crash was deliberate - www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/sergio-perez-monaco-crash-verstappen-28481448

    (The Russell one in Brazil looked suspicious too)

    Drivers who cause red flags should qualify last in their session - that would stop both the cases and the conspiracy theories.

    Sure, on that above proposed rule change.

    Meanwhile,
    What a shit show this inside the team fight is turning
    into!

    Strange thing is, many of us might think that Ferrari is
    disfunctional, but they are not even entering into any
    of this.


    https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-max-verstappens-mother-calls-out-sergio-perez-for-cheating-in-monaco-fumes-f1-twitter/

    Max Verstappen’s mother calls out Sergio Perez for cheating in Monaco;
    fumes F1 twitter
    Samriddhi Jaiswal|Published 14/11/2022


    Max Verstappen's mother calls out Sergio Perez for cheating in Monaco;
    fumes F1 twitter
    Credits: Twitter

    Red Bull ace Max Verstappen’s mother Sophie Kumpen has joined the cult
    of stan accounts on social media who go out of their way to defend their favourite drivers.

    Following Verstappen’s refusal to obey team orders and for betraying his teammate Sergio Perez at the Brazil GP, he has come under a lot of
    criticism for displaying a sly attitude towards his teammate.

    Apart from calling out the Dutchman for his unsportsmanlike behaviour,
    the fans went out of their way to throw shade at his mother in an
    Instagram post.

    Also Read: F1 expert says Sebastian Vettel’s Multi-21 is nowhere near to
    what Max Verstappen did to Sergio Perez

    Sophie Kumpen takes a dig at Sergio Perez
    It later came to notice that Kumpen herself participated in that
    exchange and went out of her way to make a controversial comment.
    Replying to an Instagrammer(doctor_ben_jamming), Kumpen said “and then
    in the evening cheating on his wife.”


    This comment is a dig at Perez cheating on his wife early this year
    after winning the Monaco GP. The videos of the post-race party surfaced
    on the internet and made multiple headlines followed by the Mexican
    issuing an apology.


    Nevertheless, the comment made by Kumpen defending her son for betraying
    Perez has fumed the F1 fans. However, the post on which these comments
    were made is still unclear.

    Also Read: Ferrari reported to sack Mattia Binotto, Frederic Vasseur
    named a possible replacement

    Sergio Perez disappointed by his teammate
    The final laps of the race at the Interlagos Circuit turned out to be a
    massive disappointment for Perez.

    Staring on medium tyres after the safety car, Perez found himself
    falling down the grid until eventually, his own teammate overtook him.

    But Verstappen was given the pass on Perez on a condition. Both the
    drivers were told that if the 2-time world champion was not able to pass Fernando Alonso in P5, he would swap places with the Mexican.

    But the Dutchman disobeyed the team’s orders and did not swap places. In
    the post-race interview, Perez said, “After all I’ve done for him, it’s
    a bit disappointing, to be honest.”

    Also Read: Esteban Ocon feels Alpine misinterpreted his radio message

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  • From Matt Larkin@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Fri Nov 18 01:44:30 2022
    On Monday, 14 November 2022 at 21:14:33 UTC, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying which bring out red flags to thwart the laps of others.

    Perez in Monaco the latest one;

    Tom Coronel - Sergio Perez 'admitted' to Red Bull that Monaco crash was deliberate - www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/sergio-perez-monaco-crash-verstappen-28481448

    (The Russell one in Brazil looked suspicious too)

    Drivers who cause red flags should qualify last in their session - that would stop both the cases and the conspiracy theories.
    Why no noise to get the FIA to investigate this?

    If Perez did it and kept quiet about it, well fine (sort of).

    But the story is that he told RBR management and Max.

    If so, you've got team members in the paddock who know about someone
    cheating deliberately and they've failed to report it to the FIA.

    In any other sport that would be some sort of disrepute hearing and sanction wouldn't it?

    But now it seems it's OK to cheat, chat about it with your team principal
    (even if they didn't tell you to do it) and keep it a secret with utter lack
    of integrity.

    Is it just me that finds this unacceptable?

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  • From Geoff May@21:1/5 to Matt Larkin on Fri Nov 18 16:52:11 2022
    On 18/11/2022 09:44, Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Monday, 14 November 2022 at 21:14:33 UTC, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying which bring out red flags to thwart the laps of others.

    Perez in Monaco the latest one;

    Tom Coronel - Sergio Perez 'admitted' to Red Bull that Monaco crash was deliberate - www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/sergio-perez-monaco-crash-verstappen-28481448

    (The Russell one in Brazil looked suspicious too)

    Drivers who cause red flags should qualify last in their session - that would stop both the cases and the conspiracy theories.
    Why no noise to get the FIA to investigate this?

    If Perez did it and kept quiet about it, well fine (sort of).

    But the story is that he told RBR management and Max.

    If so, you've got team members in the paddock who know about someone
    cheating deliberately and they've failed to report it to the FIA.

    In any other sport that would be some sort of disrepute hearing and sanction wouldn't it?

    But now it seems it's OK to cheat, chat about it with your team principal (even if they didn't tell you to do it) and keep it a secret with utter lack of integrity.

    Is it just me that finds this unacceptable?

    I'm not sure I would accept anything that comes from The Daily Star.

    Cheers

    Geoff

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Geoff May on Fri Nov 18 11:55:59 2022
    On 11/18/2022 11:52 AM, Geoff May wrote:
    On 18/11/2022 09:44, Matt Larkin wrote:
    On Monday, 14 November 2022 at 21:14:33 UTC, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    More allegations of deliberate spins in qualifying which bring out
    red flags to thwart the laps of others.

    Perez in Monaco the latest one;

    Tom Coronel - Sergio Perez 'admitted' to Red Bull that Monaco crash
    was deliberate -
    www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/sergio-perez-monaco-crash-verstappen-28481448 >>>
    (The Russell one in Brazil looked suspicious too)

    Drivers who cause red flags should qualify last in their session -
    that would stop both the cases and the conspiracy theories.
    Why no noise to get the FIA to investigate this?

    If Perez did it and kept quiet about it, well fine (sort of).

    But the story is that he told RBR management and Max.

    If so, you've got team members in the paddock who know about someone
    cheating deliberately and they've failed to report it to the FIA.

    In any other sport that would be some sort of disrepute hearing and
    sanction
    wouldn't it?

    But now it seems it's OK to cheat, chat about it with your team principal
    (even if they didn't tell you to do it) and keep it a secret with
    utter lack
    of integrity.

    Is it just me that finds this unacceptable?

    I'm not sure I would accept anything that comes from The Daily Star.

    Cheers

    Geoff


    How about Schumacher's pole-ending 'e pahkah da kah' at Monaco 2006:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgCY548M2QQ

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  • From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 09:31:26 2022
    "I'm not sure I would accept anything that comes from The Daily Star."

    it is not just that paper saying it.

    (another one for the list on the thread is nico rosberg at monaco - i think it was 2015 but it might have been 2014)

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