Thanks for sharing the article.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
Thanks for sharing the article.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
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On 11/8/22 14:16, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 8/11/2022 5:23 pm, a425couple wrote:
On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:
On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:
Thanks for sharing the article.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to >>>> go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers >>>> in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice >>>> to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
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Thanks for sharing the article.
;
I am glad to hear you appreciated it.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
;
I liked a number of the old rules and realities better.
For example in the 1960's and 70's and 80's teams had much more
freedom of choice.
Mario Andretti had done well in US in USAC racing.
In 1968 Team Lotus invited Mario to drive one of their
cars in the US GP, and he did. In 1969 he drove in 3 F1 WDC races.
In 1970 he drove a STP Corporation March in 5 races and
finished 3rd in Spain.
In 1971 he was invited to drive a Ferrari, and won the South Africian GP. He gradually did more
F1 races and won the WDC in a Lotus in 1978.
That progression could not be done now.
A recent irritation is that Simona DeSilvestro was doing well in
Indycar, but then got offered a test driver position in F1,
and it just seemed like they took advantage of her time and
contracts with fool's gold promises.
That's not how her Wikipedia bio reads: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro>
Her best season finish in Indycars over 4 (full) seasons was 13th. She then spent a year as an F1
test driver then didn't immediately go back to Indycars but went instead to Formula E and Aussie
Supercars. She didn't return to Indycars for 6 years, going back (part-time) in 2021.
In her last season she had a 5th and a 2nd. Pretty good finishes.
She also had 7 more top 10s.
Yes, overall for the season she finished 13th. She was just behind Dario Franchitti, Tony Kanaan
and Sébastien Bourdais. She was just above Josef Newgarden, Viso, Ed Carpenter, Takuma Sato, and
Graham Rahal.
That seems like pretty impressive and good company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_IndyCar_Series
Once a person has walked away from a team and contracts and contacts,
it is tough to get back.
In my opinion, for a quality female driver, they are better trying to go
to Indycar that to any dedicated "W series".
The 'glass ceiling' has been fairly broken, and I think the discrimination will be less than in
most European series.
But, as always, the biggest factor for any driver is MARKETING.
Male, or female, how well can you sell yourself. To a team,
or to a corporation wanting a face in an advertisement?
On 9/11/2022 4:56 pm, a425couple wrote:
On 11/8/22 14:16, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 8/11/2022 5:23 pm, a425couple wrote:
On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:
On 11/7/22 15:55, 5GyYap52yQ1UGMWD wrote:
Thanks for sharing the article.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
Thanks for sharing the article.
I am glad to hear you appreciated it.
It's nice that F1 drivers are considering IndyCar as a decent series to
go to post-F1. I just wish that the FIA start treating IndyCar drivers
in a similar manner that they would treat F1 drivers. It would be nice
to see those two series constantly cross with each other.
I liked a number of the old rules and realities better.
For example in the 1960's and 70's and 80's teams had much more
freedom of choice.
Mario Andretti had done well in US in USAC racing.
In 1968 Team Lotus invited Mario to drive one of their
cars in the US GP, and he did. In 1969 he drove in 3 F1 WDC races.
In 1970 he drove a STP Corporation March in 5 races and
finished 3rd in Spain.
In 1971 he was invited to drive a Ferrari, and won the South Africian GP. He gradually did more
F1 races and won the WDC in a Lotus in 1978.
That progression could not be done now.
A recent irritation is that Simona DeSilvestro was doing well in
Indycar, but then got offered a test driver position in F1,
and it just seemed like they took advantage of her time and
contracts with fool's gold promises.
That's not how her Wikipedia bio reads: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simona_de_Silvestro>
Her best season finish in Indycars over 4 (full) seasons was 13th. She then spent a year as an F1
test driver then didn't immediately go back to Indycars but went instead to Formula E and Aussie
Supercars. She didn't return to Indycars for 6 years, going back (part-time) in 2021.
In her last season she had a 5th and a 2nd. Pretty good finishes.
She also had 7 more top 10s.
Yes, overall for the season she finished 13th. She was just behind Dario Franchitti, Tony Kanaan
and Sébastien Bourdais. She was just above Josef Newgarden, Viso, Ed Carpenter, Takuma Sato, and
Graham Rahal.
That seems like pretty impressive and good company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_IndyCar_SeriesYeah I read that before replying.
Once a person has walked away from a team and contracts and contacts,Surely not /that/ hard if it's been less than a year and you've finished in such august company?
it is tough to get back.
In my opinion, for a quality female driver, they are better trying to go to Indycar that to any dedicated "W series".That said no woman driver has really set the series alight. <https://www.gamblingsites.com/blog/top-women-compete-indycar/>
The 'glass ceiling' has been fairly broken, and I think the discrimination will be less than in
most European series.
is about the best guide that I could find on female drivers in Indycars.
(And that's not that great - at least w/r/t grammar and proof-reading. I quote: "It shouldn’t
surprise anyone that Danica Patrick is the best IndyCar woman driver. Patrick began his IndyCar
career in 2005".)
But, as always, the biggest factor for any driver is MARKETING.Yeah you need the first few million to get yourself onto the stage then you have to be good enough
Male, or female, how well can you sell yourself. To a team,
or to a corporation wanting a face in an advertisement?
to get picked up by a 'driver academy' or similar. So it's either be a good enough driver to be
born into money or be a very skillful driver as well as be good looking, personable, charismatic
and lucky.
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