Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

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On 10/23/2022 7:10 PM, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

In 1952 Ascari won 6 out of 8 races which included the Indy 500. (75%)

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On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 7:52:05 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/10/2022 12:10 pm, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

So you can as easily be world champ with a 26% winning record or with a 58% winning record, or with a 68% winning record.

In 2011 Vettel won 11 out of 19 races.
In 2013 Vettel won 13 out of 19 races.

Or are you only counting years ending in a 0? You start your post with this year so...

In 2020 Hamilton won 11 out of 17 races.

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On 24/10/2022 12:10 pm, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

In 2011 Vettel won 11 out of 19 races.
In 2013 Vettel won 13 out of 19 races.

Or are you only counting years ending in a 0? You start your post with this year so...

In 2020 Hamilton won 11 out of 17 races.

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Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

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On 24/10/2022 3:59 pm, bra wrote:

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 7:52:05 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/10/2022 12:10 pm, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

So you can as easily be world champ with a 26% winning record or with a 58% winning record, or with a 68% winning record.

Ok, so that's what you were getting at. Got it now. Yep, I dare say that theoretically, in a
competitive year one might be able to win the WDC without a race win.
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~misfit~ <[email protected]> wrote:

On 24/10/2022 3:59 pm, bra wrote:

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 7:52:05 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/10/2022 12:10 pm, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) . >>>> In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

So you can as easily be world champ with a 26% winning record or with
a 58% winning record, or with a 68% winning record.

Ok, so that's what you were getting at. Got it now. Yep, I dare say
that theoretically, in a competitive year one might be able to win the
WDC without a race win.

Yes, which is why the arguments that come up from time to time about
someone not "really" being a WDC because someone else has won the
same/more races is redundant.

In terms of comparisons, however, another factor to consider is
reliability. In the earlier eras, cars were much less reliable. Just as
the number of races have gone up, drivers can realistically go all
season without a mechanical breakdown tripping them up. Okay, if bad
luck comes along you are still stuffed, but comparisons of today to even
the 80s or 90s isn't fair. You had to be very lucky to have reliability
to finish let alone be competitive in so many races.

Red Bull have had a great car this year, no doubt, and Verstappen has
taken full advantage as he should.

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On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 1:25:17 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:

~misfit~ <[email protected]> wrote:

Red Bull have had a great car this year, no doubt, and Verstappen has
taken full advantage as he should.

Well said. Thanks.

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On 10/23/22 19:59, bra wrote:

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 7:52:05 PM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 24/10/2022 12:10 pm, bra wrote:

Verstappen has won 13 out of 19 races, (68% with 3 still to contest) .
In 2010 Vettel won 5 out of 19 races (26%)
In 2000 Schumi won 9 out of 17 races (53%).
In 1990 Senna won 8 out of 16 races. (50%)
In 1980 Jones won 5 out of 14 races. (36%)
In 1970 Rindt won 5 out of 13 races. (38%)
In 1960 Brabham won 5 out of 10 races which included Indy 500. (50%)

In 2011 Vettel won 11 out of 19 races.
In 2013 Vettel won 13 out of 19 races.

Or are you only counting years ending in a 0? You start your post

with this year so...

In 2020 Hamilton won 11 out of 17 races.

So you can as easily be world champ with a 26% winning record or with

a 58% winning record, or with a 68% winning record.


And I still am not sure of your point.
But, by the way, similar statements:

In 1982 Keke Rosberg won the WDC after winning only 1 race of 16.
(6.25% ?)
In 1958 Mike Hawthorne won the WDC after winning only 1 race of 11
(if you count Indy, otherwise only 1 of 10)
(either 9% or 10%)

Rather than the number of wins, the % of times in a year when the
WDC was on the podium, would be a more useful figure.
(Hawthorne did it 7 times of the 11 or 10).
(Rosberg did it 6, but 1982 was a horrid year with deaths and injuries.)

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