• The botched Ferrari stop - wheel gun men don't check to their sides?

    From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 5 07:26:29 2022
    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4 wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is just gazing straight ahead at the stopping
    point throughout until the car arrives there considered an imperative?

    (We've probably all done it - I was a cop and at the police academy we had an early morning big inspection arranged on the parade ground. There were about 18 of us in my class and we spent around 1/2 hour standing around inspecting each other making any
    last needed polishing etc. It was only when we formed up into ranks that we noticed a gap - one of us was missing - somehow none of us had noticed before. Turned out he was still in bed oblivious - the parade sergeant wasn't impressed).

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  • From Matt Larkin@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Mon Sep 5 08:41:50 2022
    On Monday, 5 September 2022 at 15:26:31 UTC+1, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4 wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is just gazing straight ahead at the stopping
    point throughout until the car arrives there considered an imperative?

    (We've probably all done it - I was a cop and at the police academy we had an early morning big inspection arranged on the parade ground. There were about 18 of us in my class and we spent around 1/2 hour standing around inspecting each other making
    any last needed polishing etc. It was only when we formed up into ranks that we noticed a gap - one of us was missing - somehow none of us had noticed before. Turned out he was still in bed oblivious - the parade sergeant wasn't impressed).
    Does seem fairly incredible (in the literal sense) that they cocked that one up.

    But this is the 2022 Ferrari team, and they seem to be auditioning for Keystone Cops
    in the pitlane.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Bigbird on Mon Sep 5 12:07:13 2022
    On 2022-09-05 11:39, Bigbird wrote:
    Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun
    men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to
    remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to
    become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the
    new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4
    wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In
    case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is
    just gazing straight ahead at the stopping point throughout until the
    car arrives there considered an imperative?

    (We've probably all done it - I was a cop and at the police academy
    we had an early morning big inspection arranged on the parade ground.
    There were about 18 of us in my class and we spent around 1/2 hour
    standing around inspecting each other making any last needed
    polishing etc. It was only when we formed up into ranks that we
    noticed a gap - one of us was missing - somehow none of us had
    noticed before. Turned out he was still in bed oblivious - the parade
    sergeant wasn't impressed).

    I don't think anyone had gone AWOL; the tyre had.

    Since there is one man assigned to the task of carrying out each new
    tire, both the man and the tire were missing.

    It's not like one guy stands out in the pit lane and waits for someone
    else to bring him a tire.

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Mon Sep 5 18:39:39 2022
    Mr Gobrien wrote:

    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun
    men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to
    remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to
    become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the
    new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4
    wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In
    case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is
    just gazing straight ahead at the stopping point throughout until the
    car arrives there considered an imperative?

    (We've probably all done it - I was a cop and at the police academy
    we had an early morning big inspection arranged on the parade ground.
    There were about 18 of us in my class and we spent around 1/2 hour
    standing around inspecting each other making any last needed
    polishing etc. It was only when we formed up into ranks that we
    noticed a gap - one of us was missing - somehow none of us had
    noticed before. Turned out he was still in bed oblivious - the parade sergeant wasn't impressed).

    I don't think anyone had gone AWOL; the tyre had.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Mon Sep 5 20:21:30 2022
    On 2022-09-05 07:26, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun
    men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to
    remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to
    become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the
    new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4
    wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In
    case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is
    just gazing straight ahead at the stopping point throughout until the
    car arrives there considered an imperative?

    (We've probably all done it - I was a cop and at the police academy
    we had an early morning big inspection arranged on the parade ground.
    There were about 18 of us in my class and we spent around 1/2 hour
    standing around inspecting each other making any last needed
    polishing etc. It was only when we formed up into ranks that we
    noticed a gap - one of us was missing - somehow none of us had
    noticed before. Turned out he was still in bed oblivious - the parade sergeant wasn't impressed).

    Who is to say he didn't raise the alarm?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Thu Sep 8 12:47:31 2022
    On 2022-09-08 12:29, Mr Gobrien wrote:

    "I don't think anyone had gone AWOL; the tyre had."

    "Who is to say he didn't raise the alarm?"

    See the video here though, both the tyre and the man with it are not there. And the wheel gun man just waits until the tyre comes, he doesn't seem to signal anything at any point.

    Very poor.

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-dutch-grand-prix-ferrari-scramble-for-tyres-in-botched-sainz-pit-stop-branded-a-mess-by-team-boss-binotto.1743048052333006776.html

    Dude: he doesn't have to make a visible signal.

    They have INTERCOM RADIOS.

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  • From Mr Gobrien@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 8 12:29:24 2022
    "I don't think anyone had gone AWOL; the tyre had."

    "Who is to say he didn't raise the alarm?"

    See the video here though, both the tyre and the man with it are not there. And the wheel gun man just waits until the tyre comes, he doesn't seem to signal anything at any point.

    Very poor.

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-dutch-grand-prix-ferrari-scramble-for-tyres-in-botched-sainz-pit-stop-branded-a-mess-by-team-boss-binotto.1743048052333006776.html

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 8 16:11:21 2022
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 1:47:35 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Dude:

    dude someone in public
    and get your ass handed to you
    you fucking stupid cunt

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Sep 8 18:20:39 2022
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 1:47:35 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    They have INTERCOM RADIOS.

    take your all caps
    and fuck off off back to rec.sport.golf
    you queer ass fuck

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  • From fnot@21:1/5 to Mr Gobrien on Tue Sep 13 21:07:10 2022
    On 2022-09-05 10:26, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the new tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4 wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is just gazing straight ahead at the stopping
    point throughout until the car arrives there considered an imperative?

    Imperative. Look straight ahead and do your job. It's the way of the world.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Sep 13 20:53:25 2022
    On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 9:23:29 PM UTC-6, Alan wrote:

    Nonsense.

    go fuck yourself
    you one word sentence
    simpleton
    useless fucking cunt
    kill yourself

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to fnot on Tue Sep 13 20:23:26 2022
    On 2022-09-13 18:07, fnot wrote:
    On 2022-09-05 10:26, Mr Gobrien wrote:
    Re the botched Ferrari stop at the Dutch GP - each of the 4 wheel gun
    men has a man standing on either side of himself of course (1 to
    remove the old wheel and another man to fit the new one).

    And one of those men wasn't there of course - but that only seemed to
    become apparent to his wheel gun man once he was needed to fit the new
    tyre.

    So as the cars trundle slowly into view at the top of the pits, the 4
    wheel gun men don't just quickly check either side of themselves? (In
    case a man is missing and they can raise the alarm quicker) - or is
    just gazing straight ahead at the stopping point throughout until the
    car arrives there considered an imperative?

    Imperative. Look straight ahead and do your job. It's the way of the world.

    Nonsense.

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