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    From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 2 11:22:15 2022
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
    engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
    arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
    been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
    to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
    may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Tue Aug 2 08:48:12 2022
    On 8/2/2022 6:22 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
    engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
    arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
    been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
    to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
    may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like


    Playing a DFV or Matra V12 audio file on the speaker works a charm.

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  • From Phil Carmody@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Wed Aug 3 00:51:52 2022
    Martin Harran <[email protected]> writes:
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
    engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
    arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles. I've
    been aware of this for some time as I drive a hybrid and I find I have
    to be extra alert in places like supermarket car parks as pedestrians
    may not be aware my car is moving when it is running on battery.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousand-pound-electric-vehicle-sound-like

    Let's face it, nobody likes the tour-de-wherever-the-fuck-they-cycle,
    so clearly racing without engine noises is a non-starter.

    Phil
    --
    We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
    -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/

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  • From bra@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 5 16:13:44 2022
    On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
    engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about problems
    arising from the absence of engine noise in electric vehicles.

    Last night I got talking to a couple in their new 'MACH E', Ford's electric Mustang. It has an 'engine sound button' you can press.
    This gives a V-8 engine sound inside the cabin, but it is available outside only in reverse gear.

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  • From Bigbird@21:1/5 to Darryl Johnson on Sat Aug 6 09:40:13 2022
    Darryl Johnson wrote:

    On 2022-08-05 7:13 PM, bra wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, [email protected]
    wrote:
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance
    of engine noise in F1. I found this article interesting about
    problems arising from the absence of engine noise in electric
    vehicles.

    Last night I got talking to a couple in their new 'MACH E', Ford's
    electric Mustang. It has an 'engine sound button' you can press.
    This gives a V-8 engine sound inside the cabin, but it is available
    outside only in reverse gear.


    There is something inherently wrong about electronic engine noise
    INSIDE THE CABIN!

    +1

    We talked about this this morning after a runner crossed the road
    without a glance behind not far ahead of my diesel. An EV would have
    had him.

    Eventually there will be enough deaths for someone to take note and
    realise EV will populate the roads more quickly than pedestrians and
    cyclists will learn to change their habits.
    Some noise will need to be generated in residential areas.

    I would like it to be standardised sooner rather than later because if
    we let manufacturers come up with their own solutions there will be a
    mish mash of stylised implementations and we will end up with the same situation we have with indicators that on many cars (in the UK at
    least) are not as easily and quickly discerned as they used to be; a
    safety feature turned in to a stylised selling point with safety being
    the loser.

    --
    Bozo Bin
    Alan Baker
    Texasgate

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  • From Dan the Man@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Sun Aug 7 08:01:52 2022
    On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 1:45:31 PM UTC-4, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 8/6/2022 5:40 AM, Bigbird wrote:

    I would like it to be standardised sooner rather than later because
    if we let manufacturers come up with their own solutions there will
    be a mish mash of stylised implementations and we will end up with
    the same situation we have with indicators that on many cars (in the
    UK at least) are not as easily and quickly discerned as they used to
    be; a safety feature turned in to a stylised selling point with
    safety being the loser.
    Don't get me started about in-vehicle touchscreens replacing physical controls.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    There's no nondestructive test
    for indestructibility. - Randall Munroe
    A year ago, my Subaru Legacy needed some body repairs, so I got a new Outback as a loaner.
    I couldn't wait to get my own 7-year-old car back! Those touch screens are dangerously distracting and overcomplicated.

    As for the noise issue ... as kids, my friends and I would put playing cards in the spokes of our bicycles to make them sound (sort of) like motorcycles.

    Dan

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  • From bra@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Aug 8 13:36:42 2022
    On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 3:22:19 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
    There's been a bit of chat here in the past about the importance of
    engine noise in F1.

    Two days ago I chatted to a couple who were in a new Ford "Mach E", named but not styled as a Mustang.
    I asked the driver if he missed the old V8 sound, and he said LISTEN and pressed a dashboard button ---------- rumble-rumble V8.
    He added "But it's only inside the cabin; it's broadcast outside only when you are reversing."

    The same weekend I watched a visiting Tesla S Plaid recording a drag meet's highest speeds, and the traditional crowd was perturbed.
    Until a young drag racer in a 427 cu.in. 1964 Chevy 2 'cut a perfect light' and beat the electric car, despite the Tesla being 12 mph faster at the finish lights.

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