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  • Re: Drivers want changes to Miami -- more than one line, no chicane

    From XYXPDQ@21:1/5 to News on Mon May 9 11:08:53 2022
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:40:05 AM UTC-7, News wrote:
    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39944352/f1-drivers-want-changes-to-miami-grand-prix-circuit-for-2023/


    14-15-16 should be replaced by a hairpin.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 9 13:40:05 2022
    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39944352/f1-drivers-want-changes-to-miami-grand-prix-circuit-for-2023/

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Mon May 9 15:05:13 2022
    On 5/9/2022 2:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:40:05 AM UTC-7, News wrote:
    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39944352/f1-drivers-want-changes-to-miami-grand-prix-circuit-for-2023/


    14-15-16 should be replaced by a hairpin.

    The track layout went through several revisions even after the original
    site on Biscayne Bay was abandoned. There's a summary here:

    https://www.racefans.net/2022/05/03/the-evolution-of-miamis-f1-track-seven-layouts-which-led-to-its-final-design/

    That article doesn't explicitly address the constraints before turn 16,
    where there is no space for runoff and hence a requirement to slow the
    cars beforehand. As the final two design illustrations show this is complicated by the tennis stadium through which turn 12 curves, and the
    three highway ramps (with supporting pillars) between turn 13 and almost
    all of the back straight. A very difficult problem; the responsible
    parties have talked about possibly making minor changes but they are
    unlikely to be able to work magic.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    COBOL could be here forever. Thus, Y2K+N problems are
    likely to recur for all nonnegative integer values of N.
    - Peter G. Neumann

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Mon May 9 14:46:17 2022
    On 2022-05-09 12:05 p.m., Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 5/9/2022 2:08 PM, XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:40:05 AM UTC-7, News wrote:
    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39944352/f1-drivers-want-changes-to-miami-grand-prix-circuit-for-2023/



    14-15-16 should be replaced by a hairpin.

    The track layout went through several revisions even after the original
    site on Biscayne Bay was abandoned.  There's a summary here:

    https://www.racefans.net/2022/05/03/the-evolution-of-miamis-f1-track-seven-layouts-which-led-to-its-final-design/


    That article doesn't explicitly address the constraints before turn 16,
    where there is no space for runoff and hence a requirement to slow the
    cars beforehand.  As the final two design illustrations show this is complicated by the tennis stadium through which turn 12 curves, and the
    three highway ramps (with supporting pillars) between turn 13 and almost
    all of the back straight.  A very difficult problem; the responsible
    parties have talked about possibly making minor changes but they are
    unlikely to be able to work magic.


    Interesting to see the evolution both at the final venue and the overall process of getting the race staged anywhere.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to XYXPDQ on Mon May 9 14:42:34 2022
    On 2022-05-09 11:08 a.m., XYXPDQ wrote:
    On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:40:05 AM UTC-7, News wrote:
    https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39944352/f1-drivers-want-changes-to-miami-grand-prix-circuit-for-2023/


    14-15-16 should be replaced by a hairpin.

    But the question is...

    ...how?

    That complex was chosen because they needed to weave round the support
    columns for the highway ramps going overtop and allowing access to the
    track by road.

    <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hard+Rock+Stadium/@25.9572287,-80.2303122,134a,35y,358.87h,62.1t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88d9af0497b5f3a9:0x5815e194c60bf9db!8m2!3d25.9579665!4d-80.2388604>

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