• Max

    From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 13 12:22:03 2021
    With 131 races and 16 wins under his belt surely no one can now deny that
    Max is already one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen. However, if
    he is to win the WDC on a regular basis he is going to have to remember the
    old adage, “in order to finish first, first you must finish”

    The Silverstone coming-together with Hamilton was probably more Lewis’s
    fault than Max’s, whereas at Monza it was vice versa, but on both occasions Max could have remained in the race had he simply *backed off*. Lack of restraint is his only failing as far as I can see.

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    Sir Tim

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  • From Edmund@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Mon Sep 13 18:56:47 2021
    On 9/13/21 2:22 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    With 131 races and 16 wins under his belt surely no one can now deny that
    Max is already one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen. However, if he is to win the WDC on a regular basis he is going to have to remember the old adage, “in order to finish first, first you must finish”

    The Silverstone coming-together with Hamilton was probably more Lewis’s fault than Max’s, whereas at Monza it was vice versa, but on both occasions Max could have remained in the race had he simply *backed off*. Lack of restraint is his only failing as far as I can see.
    True
    Ham didn't have to cross the track and block a car at racing speed while
    he left the pit lane at a much lower speed either.

    Funny thing : both Ham and max are exactly the same, they don't care and
    rather crash then give way to another.





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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Edmund on Tue Sep 14 10:35:17 2021
    On 14/09/2021 4:56 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 9/13/21 2:22 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    With 131 races and 16 wins under his belt surely no one can now deny that
    Max is already one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen.
    However, if
    he is to win the WDC on a regular basis he is going to have to
    remember the
    old adage, “in order to finish first, first you must finish”

    The Silverstone coming-together with Hamilton was probably more Lewis’s
    fault than Max’s, whereas at Monza it was vice versa, but on both
    occasions
    Max could have remained in the race had he simply *backed off*. Lack of
    restraint is his only failing as far as I can see.
    True
    Ham didn't have to cross the track and block a car at racing speed while
    he left the pit lane at a much lower speed either.

    Funny thing : both Ham and max are exactly the same, they don't care and rather crash then give way to another.

    Not necessarily.

    Look at the previous incident' that race, when VER drove an almost
    identical defending line . HAM left the track and didn't attempt to
    veer back on. Which is what VER dangerously did in the prang, and was
    punished for.

    geoff

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Edmund on Mon Sep 13 21:29:59 2021
    On 2021-09-13 9:56 a.m., Edmund wrote:
    On 9/13/21 2:22 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    With 131 races and 16 wins under his belt surely no one can now deny that
    Max is already one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen.
    However, if
    he is to win the WDC on a regular basis he is going to have to
    remember the
    old adage, “in order to finish first, first you must finish”

    The Silverstone coming-together with Hamilton was probably more Lewis’s
    fault than Max’s, whereas at Monza it was vice versa, but on both
    occasions
    Max could have remained in the race had he simply *backed off*. Lack of
    restraint is his only failing as far as I can see.
    True
    Ham didn't have to cross the track and block a car at racing speed while
    he left the pit lane at a much lower speed either.

    He didn't "block [] a car while he left the pit lane". He very clearly
    didn't move left until after the line he was obliged to follow.

    And when he did move left, he initially left Verstappen room.

    That does argue that he knew Verstappen was there.


    Funny thing : both Ham and max are exactly the same, they don't care and rather crash then give way to another.

    It was close.

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Sep 13 21:32:05 2021
    On 2021-09-13 3:35 p.m., geoff wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 4:56 am, Edmund wrote:
    On 9/13/21 2:22 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
    With 131 races and 16 wins under his belt surely no one can now deny
    that
    Max is already one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen.
    However, if
    he is to win the WDC on a regular basis he is going to have to
    remember the
    old adage, “in order to finish first, first you must finish”

    The Silverstone coming-together with Hamilton was probably more Lewis’s >>> fault than Max’s, whereas at Monza it was vice versa, but on both
    occasions
    Max could have remained in the race had he simply *backed off*. Lack of
    restraint is his only failing as far as I can see.
    True
    Ham didn't have to cross the track and block a car at racing speed
    while he left the pit lane at a much lower speed either.

    Funny thing : both Ham and max are exactly the same, they don't care
    and rather crash then give way to another.

    Not necessarily.

    Look at the previous incident' that race, when VER drove an almost
    identical defending line . HAM left the track and didn't attempt to veer
    back on. Which is what VER dangerously did in the prang, and was
    punished for.

    And frankly, it was the first incident that was far more egregious.

    In the lap 1, turn 4 situation, Hamilton had CLEARLY gotten all the way alongside Verstappen, so there is simply no arguing that he should have
    been given room.

    I suspect that Verstappen's penalty when the shoe was on the other foot
    is in part because the stewards didn't penalize him for forcing Hamilton
    off the track in the first incident.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to texas gate on Mon Sep 13 21:52:03 2021
    On 2021-09-13 9:50 p.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:30:01 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

    only just
    like your new boyfriends tiny penis
    entering you huge diseased asshole
    you fucking pig


    Wow.

    You're so very, very dull.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Mon Sep 13 22:00:27 2021
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:30:01 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

    But you want Mark to accept your cheating picks in the pool?
    But only just?

    You fucking piece of shit
    Trolling cock sucker.

    But only just?
    Like your boyfriend licking your asshole to orgasm?

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to texas gate on Mon Sep 13 22:09:37 2021
    On 2021-09-13 10:00 p.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:30:01 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

    But you want Mark to accept your cheating picks in the pool?
    But only just?

    You fucking piece of shit
    Trolling cock sucker.

    But only just?
    Like your boyfriend licking your asshole to orgasm?


    Wow.

    It's hard to believe anyone can be this dull.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Mon Sep 13 21:50:25 2021
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:30:01 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

    only just
    like your new boyfriends tiny penis
    entering you huge diseased asshole
    you fucking pig

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Mon Sep 13 22:12:22 2021
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 10:30:01 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    I can accept the stewards reasons... ...but only just.

    What about your reasons for
    cheating in the rasf1 pool for 2 weeks?
    But only just?
    You fucking jack ass.

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  • From texas gate@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Mon Sep 13 22:14:41 2021
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    It's hard to believe anyone can be this dull.

    believe it. you fucking idiot

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to texas gate on Mon Sep 13 22:22:34 2021
    On 2021-09-13 10:14 p.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    It's hard to believe anyone can be this dull.

    believe it. you fucking idiot


    We can no add unbelievably dim to your dullness.

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  • From Sir Tim@21:1/5 to Alan Baker on Tue Sep 14 07:02:31 2021
    Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 10:14 p.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    It's hard to believe anyone can be this dull.

    believe it. you fucking idiot


    We can no add unbelievably dim to your dullness.

    Alan, please stop replying to this moron because when you do I get to see
    his rubbish. The only alternative is to block you too, which I don’t want
    to do.

    --
    Sir Tim

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Sir Tim on Tue Sep 14 00:19:13 2021
    On 2021-09-14 12:02 a.m., Sir Tim wrote:
    Alan Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 10:14 p.m., texas gate wrote:
    On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 11:09:39 PM UTC-6, Alan Baker wrote:

    It's hard to believe anyone can be this dull.

    believe it. you fucking idiot


    We can no add unbelievably dim to your dullness.

    Alan, please stop replying to this moron because when you do I get to see
    his rubbish. The only alternative is to block you too, which I don’t want to do.


    Sorry, Tim.

    I'll try to restrain myself.

    But he makes it so much fun!

    ;-)

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  • From Mark Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 11:10:38 2024
    On 6/30/2024 10:50 AM, pP85PrR wrote:
    Reminds me a bit of the old Schumacher: doing a bit too much to
    defend a position.

    As Martin Brundle commented, he's reverting to how he acted when he
    first came up to F1 now that he is under some pressure.

    Things are going to get interesting for the rest of the season, I
    suspect.

    His friendship with Norris seems unlikely to survive today.

    --
    Mark Jackson - https://mark-jackson.online/
    [I]f your political views require greatly misstating the facts,
    maybe you should consider revising your views rather than
    rejecting the facts. - Paul Krugman

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  • From pP85PrR@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 10:50:07 2024
    Reminds me a bit of the old Schumacher: doing a bit too much to defend a position.

    As Martin Brundle commented, he's reverting to how he acted when he
    first came up to F1 now that he is under some pressure.

    Things are going to get interesting for the rest of the season, I suspect.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 10:38:53 2024
    On 2024-06-30 07:50, pP85PrR wrote:
    Reminds me a bit of the old Schumacher: doing a bit too much to defend a position.

    As Martin Brundle commented, he's reverting to how he acted when he
    first came up to F1 now that he is under some pressure.

    Things are going to get interesting for the rest of the season, I suspect.

    He's not "reverting" at all. He's the same as he's always been.

    It's just that when his car was dominant there was no need to take the
    risks of damage and penalties that came with being overly agressive.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Mark Jackson on Sun Jun 30 10:39:36 2024
    On 2024-06-30 08:10, Mark Jackson wrote:
    On 6/30/2024 10:50 AM, pP85PrR wrote:
    Reminds me a bit of the old Schumacher: doing a bit too much to
    defend a position.

    As Martin Brundle commented, he's reverting to how he acted when he
    first came up to F1 now that he is under some pressure.

    Things are going to get interesting for the rest of the season, I
    suspect.

    His friendship with Norris seems unlikely to survive today.


    Hard to say.

    It depends a lot on whether they can separate their friendship from
    their job.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 22:33:22 2024
    On 2024-06-30 20:32, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 1/07/2024 2:50 am, pP85PrR wrote:
    Reminds me a bit of the old Schumacher: doing a bit too much to defend
    a position.

    As Martin Brundle commented, he's reverting to how he acted when he
    first came up to F1 now that he is under some pressure.

    Things are going to get interesting for the rest of the season, I
    suspect.

    Just as I was starting to respect Max he goes and pulls this shit. He
    moved under braking several times to keep Lando behind him then simply
    took Lando out (and got a non-penalty for it).

    Thinking about it I suspect the only reason I was starting to respect
    Max was because there was nobody near him on track lately for him to
    show his dirty side I could just admire his driving in isolation.
    However I have a strong dislike for dirty drivers and today Max showed
    that he still is one.

    I never thought that he was any different than he ever was.

    But the other thing is:

    He's not really different than anyone else who runs at the sharp end.

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