https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/ai- language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-
compression-says-study/

This article reports results of using an AI-based
scheme for lossless compression of audio and
image data. Its performance exceeds that of flac
for audio and png for images.

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On 10/1/23 09:36, [email protected] wrote:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/ai- language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-
compression-says-study/

This article reports results of using an AI-based
scheme for lossless compression of audio and
image data. Its performance exceeds that of flac
for audio and png for images.

Pied Piper will be devastated.

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On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 12:36:23 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/ai- language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-
compression-says-study/

This article reports results of using an AI-based
scheme for lossless compression of audio and
image data. Its performance exceeds that of flac
for audio and png for images.

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Lossless *data size reduction*

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes: >language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-

compression-says-study/

Has anyone observed this in action?

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On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:48:10 -0500, Orlando Enrique Fiol
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, >[email protected] writes: >>language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless- >>compression-says-study/
Has anyone observed this in action?

I'll believe it when I see it.

d

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:48:10 -0500, Orlando Enrique Fiol
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, >[email protected] writes: >>language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless- >>compression-says-study/
Has anyone observed this in action?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I tried it on several large .wav files. It achieved better
compression than flac. The then-decompressed file was
identical to the original. I'll see if I can find the
website again and post here. I left it behind because
the time to transfer the large files isn't worth the
gain. It'd be a different story if it ran locally.

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On 6/12/2023 10:42 am, [email protected] wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:48:10 -0500, Orlando Enrique Fiol
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] writes:

language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-
compression-says-study/

Has anyone observed this in action?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I tried it on several large .wav files. It achieved better
compression than flac. The then-decompressed file was
identical to the original. I'll see if I can find the
website again and post here. I left it behind because
the time to transfer the large files isn't worth the
gain. It'd be a different story if it ran locally.

Significantly better ? In the context that file-size and bandwidth is a relatively trivial factor these days ....


geoff

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

On 6/12/2023 10:42 am, [email protected] wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:48:10 -0500, Orlando Enrique Fiol
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, >>> [email protected] writes:

language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless-
compression-says-study/

Has anyone observed this in action?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I tried it on several large .wav files. It achieved better
compression than flac. The then-decompressed file was
identical to the original. I'll see if I can find the
website again and post here. I left it behind because
the time to transfer the large files isn't worth the
gain. It'd be a different story if it ran locally.

Significantly better ? In the context that file-size and bandwidth is a relatively trivial factor these days ....

geoff

The gain over flac and Monkey's Audio was on the order of 20%.
That's not insignificant considering the sizes of the files,
but I'm not willing to wait very long. I am also not willing
to depend upon a website for the operation; what if it
goes away? I'd reconsider if they released a version that
ran locally.

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:48:10 -0500, Orlando Enrique Fiol
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, >[email protected] writes: >>language-models-can-exceed-png-and-flac-in-lossless- >>compression-says-study/
Has anyone observed this in action?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I tried it on several large .wav files. It achieved better
compression than flac. The then-decompressed file was
identical to the original. I'll see if I can find the
website again and post here. I left it behind because
the time to transfer the large files isn't worth the
gain. It'd be a different story if it ran locally.

Forgot to add: my Internet upload speed is a measly
3 MB/s if everything's working perfectly. That's a
long wait for a 500+ MB file!

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