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  • World largest EV charge station is in China

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 24 17:23:54 2023
    with 258 fast charging points that can serve 3,300 EVs per day.

    I did a little math and assuming the average car can be gassed in 10 minutes (which I think is very conservative) this football field sized station can't handle what two 12 pump 7-11's (like the one I usually get gas and just paid 5.37/gal...thank-you
    Joe) can handle.

    Think about it....every gas station pump will need to be replaced with 10 charging stations. Most built out cities simply don't have the real estate open to do that. The whole plan is nuts.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Sep 25 06:51:40 2023
    On 9/24/23 7:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    with 258 fast charging points that can serve 3,300 EVs per day.

    I did a little math and assuming the average car can be gassed in 10
    minutes (which I think is very conservative) this football field
    sized station can't handle what two 12 pump 7-11's (like the one I
    usually get gas and just paid 5.37/gal...thank-you Joe) can handle.

    Still haven't figured out California is a special case for gasoline prices?

    https://www.energy.ca.gov/sites/default/files/2023-09/DPMO_Interim_Update_on_California’s_Gasoline_Market_September_2023_ada.pdf

    [I[t appears that the recent price spike is attributable to three main
    factors:

    1. An increase in global crude oil prices.
    2. Refinery maintenance events causing decreases in supply that refiners
    did not adequately prepare for by increasing inventories and imports, and
    3. An unusual spot market transaction that has had an outsized impact on
    gas prices.

    ...Third, on Friday, September 15, 2023, an unusual transaction took
    place on the California spot market that caused the price of gasoline to increase by nearly $0.50 per gallon on the spot market, which ultimately
    gets passed on to consumers at the pump... As the market is structured,
    the spot market price impacts a large volume of sales statewide at the
    bulk, rack, and retail levels. It is not an exaggeration to say that one
    trade likely cost California drivers many millions of dollars at the pump.

    End quote.

    Unless Joe made that transaction, he's off the hook. Blame the usual
    "down for maintenance" gaming of the market (we had that with Texas
    electricity this summer), Putin, and a spot-market payday.

    Think about it....every gas station pump will need to be replaced
    with 10 charging stations. Most built out cities simply don't have
    the real estate open to do that. The whole plan is nuts.

    The back of your envelope is heard from again. Maybe there's plenty of
    real estate available where you already park your car at work or in your garage.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 21:03:47 2023
    On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 7:51:43 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/24/23 7:23 PM, ScottW wrote:
    with 258 fast charging points that can serve 3,300 EVs per day.

    I did a little math and assuming the average car can be gassed in 10 minutes (which I think is very conservative) this football field
    sized station can't handle what two 12 pump 7-11's (like the one I
    usually get gas and just paid 5.37/gal...thank-you Joe) can handle.

    Still haven't figured out California is a special case for gasoline prices?


    I figured that out a long time ago.

    Taxes on gasoline and diesel for transportation by US state in US cents per gallon as of October 2021[8]
    State Gasoline tax (¢/gal)
    (excludes federal tax of 18.4¢/gal) Diesel tax (¢/gal)
    (excludes federal tax of 24.4¢/gal) Notes
    Alabama 29.21 30.15
    Alaska 14.66 14.40
    Arizona 19.00 27.00
    Arkansas 24.80 28.80
    California 66.98 93.08 Gasoline subject to 2.25% sales tax. Diesel subject to 9.25% sales tax.
    Colorado 22.00 20.50 In the city of Colorado Springs, Off-road Dyed Diesel and Gasoline are subject to a local city sales tax.
    Connecticut 35.75 44.10 Subject to additional 8.1% sales tax
    Delaware 23.00 22.00

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