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  • OT: Jack Smith is my hero, and....

    From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 07:49:48 2023
    .....the possible saviour of US Democracy:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/03/who-is-jack-smith-special-counsel-indictment-trump

    Let's hope he is successful.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Mon Sep 25 20:57:05 2023
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:49:51 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    .....the possible saviour of US Democracy:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/03/who-is-jack-smith-special-counsel-indictment-trump

    Let's hope he is

    Somehow, the attempt of a Presidential administration to put its chief political opponent in jail is described as saving US democracy.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Tue Sep 26 18:55:42 2023
    On 26/09/2023 1:57 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:49:51 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    .....the possible saviour of US Democracy:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/03/who-is-jack-smith-special-counsel-indictment-trump

    Let's hope he is

    Somehow, the attempt of INDEPENDENT US justice system to put an evil criminal and multiple bankrupt in jail is described as saving US democracy.

    **Fixed it for you.


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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Tue Sep 26 09:53:59 2023
    Trevor Wilson wrote:

    Somehow, the attempt of INDEPENDENT US justice system to put an evil criminal and multiple bankrupt in jail is described as saving US democracy.

    **Fixed it for you.

    Sackhead always regrets they were too late to enjoy Jim Jones's
    Kool-Aid party. They've been trying to make up for it ever since.

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  • From Trevor Wilson@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Wed Sep 27 07:38:13 2023
    On 27/09/2023 2:53 am, Fascist Flea wrote:
    Trevor Wilson wrote:

    Somehow, the attempt of INDEPENDENT US justice system to put an evil criminal and multiple bankrupt in jail is described as saving US democracy.

    **Fixed it for you.

    Sackhead always regrets they were too late to enjoy Jim Jones's
    Kool-Aid party. They've been trying to make up for it ever since.



    **It would seem so. Here is the latest on the fraudster: Trump.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-defrauded-banks-insurers-as-he-built-real-estate-empire-judge-rules-20230927-p5e7vn.html

    And yet the MAGA lot will keep voting for the lying scumbag. Weird.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to Trevor Wilson on Thu Sep 28 19:18:04 2023
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:55:46 AM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 26/09/2023 1:57 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:49:51 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    .....the possible saviour of US Democracy:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/03/who-is-jack-smith-special-counsel-indictment-trump

    Let's hope he is

    Somehow, the attempt of INDEPENDENT US justice system to put an evil criminal and multiple bankrupt in jail is described as saving US democracy.

    **Fixed it for you.
    --


    I wish the system were fixed, but it's not. Its political, not independent.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Fri Sep 29 08:58:37 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 7:18:06 PM UTC-7, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:55:46 AM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    On 26/09/2023 1:57 pm, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:49:51 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
    .....the possible saviour of US Democracy:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/03/who-is-jack-smith-special-counsel-indictment-trump

    Let's hope he is

    Somehow, the attempt of INDEPENDENT US justice system to put an evil criminal and multiple bankrupt in jail is described as saving US democracy.

    **Fixed it for you.
    --
    I wish the system were fixed, but it's not. Its political, not independent.

    And the ruling makes little sense in reality.

    I've never heard of anyone getting an insurance break on anything because of the item insured being overvalued. Everything I've ever insured was exactly the opposite.
    And every real estate loan I ever got, the valuation was agreed upon by the lender and usually
    established by the lender or independent appraisers.
    In any case....it was never imposed upon the lender by the borrower. That's just truly bizarre.
    In this case....why haven't the lenders sued?

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Sep 29 14:07:51 2023
    On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith. The Trump Organization case was brought by the
    New York state Attorney General.

    ... why haven't the lenders sued?

    Trumps has been sued by lenders, usually for non-payment.

    A better question is why credible banks won't lend to him?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-organization-used-borrow-major-banks-now-look-lending-money-rcna22068#

    Another question is whether Trump is actively soliciting a bribe when he
    says the Saudis will pay whatever he asks for Mar-A-Lago, up to the
    billion and a half he claims it's worth.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 16:14:56 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 17:06:53 2023
    Witless plays the "I yam what I yam" card.

    The topic is Jack Smith.
    So you can't even try to address my points.

    To be fair, you splattered your "points", as you call them, in your native garble-language. If you can't even be bothered to take a small step
    toward human language, you shouldn't be surprised when your mindless
    nattering is ignored.

    Why am I not surprised?

    Because you never learn from your mistakes, of course.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Sep 29 20:24:01 2023
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?

    You snipped me addressing your point.

    Bankers signing off on the fraud doesn't make it not fraud.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 22:55:04 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Sat Sep 30 09:36:36 2023
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.

    I was addressing Scott.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 16:45:40 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:36:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    In your address you snipped my post.....
    You may now spank yourself and send yourself to bed without supper.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 2 11:19:46 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Oct 2 11:21:18 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:45:42 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:36:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.
    In your address you snipped my post.....
    You may now spank yourself and send yourself to bed without supper.

    May I have the honors??
    I'll even wear a dress and makeup.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Oct 2 14:03:11 2023
    On 10/2/23 1:19 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott

    Well, then, I'll explain that the objection follows snipping a response
    then saying I didn't respond. This is dishonest and objectionable.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Oct 2 14:16:05 2023
    On 10/2/23 1:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:45:42 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:36:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.
    In your address you snipped my post.....
    You may now spank yourself and send yourself to bed without supper.

    May I have the honors??
    I'll even wear a dress and makeup.

    Thanks for sharing your fantasy, but my snippage didn't change Scott's
    meaning so he has no objection. I was following your example to improve readability.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 10:08:18 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:16:08 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/2/23 1:21 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:45:42 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:36:39 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>> On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.
    In your address you snipped my post.....
    You may now spank yourself and send yourself to bed without supper.

    May I have the honors??
    I'll even wear a dress and makeup.
    Thanks for sharing your fantasy, but my snippage didn't change Scott's meaning so he has no objection.

    I object to your blatant hypocrisy and childish obfuscations.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 8 19:30:01 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/2/23 1:19 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott
    Well, then, I'll explain that the objection follows snipping a response
    then saying I didn't respond. This is dishonest and objectionable.

    Your post still stands on the record.
    Stop being such a crybaby.
    I have no obligation to replicate your earlier post, being
    that it still stands.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Art Sackman on Mon Oct 9 10:23:28 2023
    On 10/8/23 9:30 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/2/23 1:19 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott
    Well, then, I'll explain that the objection follows snipping a response
    then saying I didn't respond. This is dishonest and objectionable.

    Your post still stands on the record.
    Stop being such a crybaby.
    I have no obligation to replicate your earlier post, being
    that it still stands.

    It's not your post. It's Scott's and he said, "So you can't even try to
    address my points," when I did in fact address his points.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 9 10:29:03 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:23:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/8/23 9:30 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/2/23 1:19 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>> On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott
    Well, then, I'll explain that the objection follows snipping a response >> then saying I didn't respond. This is dishonest and objectionable.

    Your post still stands on the record.
    Stop being such a crybaby.
    I have no obligation to replicate your earlier post, being
    that it still stands.
    It's not your post. It's Scott's and he said, "So you can't even try to address my points," when I did in fact address his points.

    No, in fact you did not.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 9 12:30:13 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 11:23:30 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:


    Your post still stands on the record.
    Stop being such a crybaby.
    I have no obligation to replicate your earlier post, being
    that it still stands.
    It's not your post. It's Scott's and he said, "So you can't even try to address my points," when I did in fact address his points.

    You still haven't run out of crocodile tears?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Oct 9 15:04:27 2023
    On 10/9/23 12:29 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 8:23:30 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/8/23 9:30 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:03:14 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 10/2/23 1:19 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 9/30/23 12:55 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 9:24:05 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/29/23 6:14 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:58 AM, ScottW wrote:

    In this case...

    The topic is Jack Smith.

    So you can't even try to address my points.
    Why am I not surprised?
    You snipped me addressing your point.



    It showed up in your post. No need to keep repeating
    the pas conversations.

    When I snip your old stuff, I also snip my own.
    I was addressing Scott.

    I was supporting Scott
    Well, then, I'll explain that the objection follows snipping a response >>>> then saying I didn't respond. This is dishonest and objectionable.

    Your post still stands on the record.
    Stop being such a crybaby.
    I have no obligation to replicate your earlier post, being
    that it still stands.
    It's not your post. It's Scott's and he said, "So you can't even try to
    address my points," when I did in fact address his points.

    No, in fact you did not.

    You: "why haven't the lenders sued?"

    Me: "Trump has been sued by lenders, usually for non-payment."

    Of course, that refers to the Engoron case, not that of Jack Smith which involves national security and unlawful retention of documents.

    No, it doesn't matter why the banks accepted his valuations. He's not
    charged with deceiving banks, he's charged with submitting false documents.

    If you want even more answer.

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