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  • Told your it's coming to you...and soon

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 09:48:05 2023
    Proposed Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) rules regulating carbon dioxide emissions for power plants would lead to blackouts in a large slice of the Midwest and impose costs of nearly $250 billion, according to new analysis by the Center of the
    American Experiment (CAE).

    Welcome to Ca.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Aug 11 12:32:56 2023
    On 8/11/23 11:48 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Tee it up...

    Center of the American Experiment (CAE).

    https://dev.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_of_the_American_Experiment

    The Center of the American Experiment (CAE) is a right-wing pressure
    group based in Minnesota. It is a member of the State Policy Network
    (SPN), a web of state pressure groups that denote themselves as "think
    tanks" and drive a right-wing agenda in statehouses nationwide. On the
    homepage of its website, CAE lists its issue areas as: Minnesota
    economy, healthcare, families, governance, education and employee freedom...

    CAE Names Conservative Blogger John Hinderaker President
    In January of 2016, John Hinderaker was named the new President at the
    Center of the American Experiment.[2] Before taking on this position, Hinderaker was a lawyer and a conservative blogger. His blog Power Line
    won Time Magazine's 2004 award for "Blog of the Year" for what the Star
    Tribune reported as debunking a "report that lead to the downfall of CBS
    news anchor Dan Rather."[2]

    Hinderaker was quoted as saying after the announcement that, "One of my
    real missions over the next couple of years is going to be to stimulate
    some candid debates and conversations all around the state about how we
    are doing and how we can do better (in Minnesota).”[2] Minnesota
    consistently ranks highest among states in quality of life and
    healthcare.[3]

    End quote.

    Yes, the famous "Assrocket" of the old internet blog era.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 11:18:33 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:32:59 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/11/23 11:48 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Tee it up...
    Center of the American Experiment (CAE).
    https://dev.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_of_the_American_Experiment

    The Center of the American Experiment (CAE) is a right-wing pressure

    As usual...when the message sucks, Stephen shoots the messenger.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Aug 11 14:55:31 2023
    On 8/11/23 1:18 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:32:59 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/11/23 11:48 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Tee it up...
    Center of the American Experiment (CAE).
    https://dev.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_of_the_American_Experiment

    The Center of the American Experiment (CAE) is a right-wing pressure

    As usual...when the message sucks, Stephen shoots the messenger.

    If you cared about the message, you'd have cited it with support.

    Since you're sticking by your champion, I'll take a deeper look than
    what you supplied...

    Looks like modelling's okay if Republicans do it.

    https://files.americanexperiment.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/EPA-Carbon-Regs-1-Pager.pdf


    Summary kinda sucks, with snippy metaphors instead of evidence.

    At least they link the big boys:

    https://www.pjm.com/-/media/documents/other-fed-state/20230808-comments-of-joint-isos-rtos-docket-epa-hq-oar-2023-0072.ashx

    It's not as insane as the CAE:

    "The Joint ISOs/RTOs propose the adoption of an additional sub-category
    that would accommodate units deemed needed for reliability, whether
    natural gas or coal. This subcategory would be populated with specific
    units or locations as identified by the ISO/RTO where unit retirement
    would cause significant reliability challenges until other longer-term solutions, such as transmission, demand response, or new generation
    resources, would obviate the need for those units."

    A lot of this is the kind of necessary discussion of regulations,
    definitions and timelines that will have to happen.

    Carry on.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 15:32:59 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:55:36 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/11/23 1:18 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:32:59 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 8/11/23 11:48 AM, ScottW wrote:

    Tee it up...
    Center of the American Experiment (CAE).
    https://dev.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_of_the_American_Experiment

    The Center of the American Experiment (CAE) is a right-wing pressure

    As usual...when the message sucks, Stephen shoots the messenger.
    If you cared about the message, you'd have cited it with support.

    Actually...it's you I find not worth the effort.

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 16:08:34 2023
    Pin the tail on the .... WHAAAA?

    If you cared about the message, you'd have cited it with support.
    Actually...it's you I find not worth the effort.

    <snicker>

    Exactly whom are you posting for, then?

    Noting you have shit for brains is an insult to shit.

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