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  • The lie "it's cheaper" goes poof

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 10:06:17 2023
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Jul 21 12:38:43 2023
    On 7/21/23 12:06 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.

    Aren't fossil fuels also vulnerable to interest rate changes?

    https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/15/wind-solar-power-now-the-clear-champions-on-cost/

    https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/global-electricity-review-2023/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 18:48:01 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:38:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 12:06 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.
    Aren't fossil fuels also vulnerable to interest rate changes?

    https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/15/wind-solar-power-now-the-clear-champions-on-cost/

    Levelized cost BS strikes again.

    I'll bet 1000$ you can explain it without googling it up and even then I'll bet you can't figure it out.

    As I said, you gonna believe this BS or my utility bills?

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Jul 23 13:16:52 2023
    On 7/22/23 8:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:38:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 12:06 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.
    Aren't fossil fuels also vulnerable to interest rate changes?

    https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/15/wind-solar-power-now-the-clear-champions-on-cost/

    Levelized cost BS strikes again.

    I'll bet 1000$ you can explain it without googling it up and even then I'll bet you can't figure it out.

    As I said, you gonna believe this BS or my utility bills?

    Why do keep bringing up your utility bills? It's not renewables' fault
    your utility has binged on construction and had to pay inflated natural
    gas prices for power production.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 20:08:09 2023
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:16:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/22/23 8:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:38:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 12:06 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.
    Aren't fossil fuels also vulnerable to interest rate changes?

    https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/15/wind-solar-power-now-the-clear-champions-on-cost/

    Levelized cost BS strikes again.

    I'll bet 1000$ you can explain it without googling it up and even then I'll bet you can't figure it out.

    As I said, you gonna believe this BS or my utility bills?
    Why do keep bringing up your utility bills? It's not renewables' fault
    your utility has binged on construction and had to pay inflated natural
    gas prices for power production.

    Nat gas is only a tiny fraction of the skyrocketing rate structure.
    Now SDGE wants a grid connection fee of over 500$/year for wealthy consumers.

    I see articles that NY utility rates are also spiking over the cost of renewables.
    Even Bill Gates is pushing a return to nuclear with his "sodium" cooled project.

    ScottW

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Jul 24 07:01:42 2023
    On 7/23/23 10:08 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:16:55 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/22/23 8:48 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 10:38:46 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 7/21/23 12:06 PM, ScottW wrote:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/america-s-bet-on-wind-power-is-running-into-a-big-problem/ar-AA1e9pmy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=39de87b1f0bf484da4ad11b0147c6ccd&ei=11

    And consumers will pay the price for their lies.
    Aren't fossil fuels also vulnerable to interest rate changes?

    https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/15/wind-solar-power-now-the-clear-champions-on-cost/

    Levelized cost BS strikes again.

    I'll bet 1000$ you can explain it without googling it up and even then I'll bet you can't figure it out.

    We discussed it in April.

    As I said, you gonna believe this BS or my utility bills?
    Why do keep bringing up your utility bills? It's not renewables' fault
    your utility has binged on construction and had to pay inflated natural
    gas prices for power production.

    Nat gas is only a tiny fraction of the skyrocketing rate structure.

    https://www.sdge.com/rates/rates-2023-energy-rates-and-who-sets-them#

    New Electricity and Gas Pricing Effective Jan. 1, 2023

    "A key contributor to rate increases is the ongoing, steep rise in the
    natural gas market, which has impacted energy bills across the nation.
    The commodity, the cost of natural gas, accounted for more than 90% of
    the overall increase in the gas rate - and the majority of the increase
    in the electric rate."

    Is it a majority or a "tiny fraction"? I suppose a majority of an
    increase can be a tiny fraction of the total, but as you're complaining
    about the increase as such, it's a valid question.

    If more than half the increase is tiny, I don't see the cause for complaint.

    Now SDGE wants a grid connection fee of over 500$/year for wealthy consumers.

    That's a restructuring to keep service affordable for lower income
    customers. Check to see if providing some kind of affordability is some
    kind of mandate for public utilities.

    I see articles that NY utility rates are also spiking over the cost of renewables.

    Carbon has to be replaced and renewables are still the cheapest way to
    do it. And the grid won't renew itself. In the long run, externalities
    such as less pollution, health benefits, and easing global warming will
    be part of the equation at the society level.

    Even Bill Gates is pushing a return to nuclear with his "sodium" cooled project.

    If he can provide a cheaper, safer alternative, good on him.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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