• This is insane

    From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 09:05:51 2023
    Silicon Valley Bank gave the movement $73.45 million.

    BLM should give it back.

    Apparently, they have more than enough.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/report-the-black-lives-matter-movement-has-recieved-a-stunning-82-billion-from-corporations/

    I'm going to go with....reparations are paid off. See BLM for your share.

    ScottW

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Mar 15 11:56:13 2023
    On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:05:52 PM UTC-4, ScottW wrote:
    Silicon Valley Bank gave the movement $73.45 million.

    BLM should give it back.

    Apparently, they have more than enough.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/report-the-black-lives-matter-movement-has-recieved-a-stunning-82-billion-from-corporations/

    I'm going to go with....reparations are paid off. See BLM for your share.

    ScottW

    Not every progressive is happy about this. Jesse Jackson is upset that he has been outfgrifted and outhustled.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Mar 15 14:41:17 2023
    On 3/15/23 11:05 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Silicon Valley Bank gave the movement $73.45 million.

    Not quite.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-quick-look-at-the-lying-trumpist-liars-behind-that-database-on-corprate-giving-to-blm

    The claims come from a database posted earlier this week by the Center
    for the American Way of Life, a project of the Claremont Institute. As Claremont put it in a Newsweek article introducing the database,
    “Americans deserve to know who funded the BLM riots.”

    ... is it really possible that the bank contributed almost $74 million
    to the “BLM Movement & Related Causes?”

    Well, no.

    The database allows you to look up various corporations and see what
    they’ve donated to “BLM.” It lists Silicon Valley Bank pledging $73,450,000 and says they followed through on the commitment. The
    database provides links to nine SVB documents as sources for this claim. They’re a mix of corporate responsibility type publications and
    corporate filings. There are various discussions of support for
    inclusivity and DEI efforts, which the database authors likely believe
    are synonymous with “BLM.” But I scanned through each one of them and
    found no reference to anything remotely backing up the claim.

    End quote.

    BLM should give it back.

    "[T]he big picture is this: behind the claims about corporate donations
    that “funded the BLM riots” are contributions that went mostly to organizations like the United Negro College Fund, the NAACP Legal
    Defense Fund, The National Urban League, various community and housing
    funding organizations and organizations funding STEM learning for Black children and young adults."

    Apparently, they have more than enough.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/report-the-black-lives-matter-movement-has-recieved-a-stunning-82-billion-from-corporations/

    "[T]he general message is that anything in any way connected to Black
    people in pretty much any way is “BLM” and explicitly supporting mayhem
    and violence."


    I'm going to go with....reparations are paid off. See BLM for your share.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 15:12:08 2023
    On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 3:41:20 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/15/23 11:05 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Silicon Valley Bank gave the movement $73.45 million.
    Not quite.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-quick-look-at-the-lying-trumpist-liars-behind-that-database-on-corprate-giving-to-blm


    Aha! So that's where you get your morning talking points.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 16 19:00:46 2023
    On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:41:20 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/15/23 11:05 AM, ScottW wrote:
    Silicon Valley Bank gave the movement $73.45 million.
    Not quite.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-quick-look-at-the-lying-trumpist-liars-behind-that-database-on-corprate-giving-to-blm

    The claims come from a database posted earlier this week by the Center
    for the American Way of Life, a project of the Claremont Institute. As Claremont put it in a Newsweek article introducing the database, “Americans deserve to know who funded the BLM riots.”

    ... is it really possible that the bank contributed almost $74 million
    to the “BLM Movement & Related Causes?”

    Well, no.

    The database allows you to look up various corporations and see what they’ve donated to “BLM.” It lists Silicon Valley Bank pledging $73,450,000 and says they followed through on the commitment. The
    database provides links to nine SVB documents as sources for this claim. They’re a mix of corporate responsibility type publications and
    corporate filings. There are various discussions of support for
    inclusivity and DEI efforts, which the database authors likely believe
    are synonymous with “BLM.” But I scanned through each one of them and found no reference to anything remotely backing up the claim.

    End quote.
    BLM should give it back.
    "[T]he big picture is this: behind the claims about corporate donations
    that “funded the BLM riots” are contributions that went mostly to organizations like the United Negro College Fund, the NAACP Legal
    Defense Fund, The National Urban League, various community and housing funding organizations and organizations funding STEM learning for Black children and young adults."
    Apparently, they have more than enough.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/report-the-black-lives-matter-movement-has-recieved-a-stunning-82-billion-from-corporations/
    "[T]he general message is that anything in any way connected to Black
    people in pretty much any way is “BLM” and explicitly supporting mayhem and violence."

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Mar 17 09:58:38 2023
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would
    be debunked.

    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.

    Interesting take.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 17 16:09:39 2023
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would
    be debunked.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.
    Interesting take.

    The returns on investments minus expenses should be held as reserves for the misfortunes that inevitably diminish returns and threaten reserves.
    These idiots were giving away money and 3 years later the Fed (backed by our tax dollars) is forced to bail them out. That's BS.
    It's like Newsom giving away $$ to buy his reelection last year using federal covid stimulus $$ when he knew damn well just like I knew that the stock market wasn't going to keep going up and with that poof goes Ca. surplus and now he's facing
    a massive deficit. School boards and Teacher's Unions are already gearing up for battle
    over the shrinking state budget. They usually win....cuz you know...they donate the most.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Fri Mar 17 19:32:26 2023
    On 3/17/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would
    be debunked.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.
    Interesting take.

    The returns on investments minus expenses should be held as reserves for the
    misfortunes that inevitably diminish returns and threaten reserves.
    These idiots were giving away money and 3 years later the Fed (backed by our tax dollars) is forced to bail them out. That's BS.

    Should there be regulations forbidding charitable giving by corporations?

    It's like Newsom giving away $$ to buy his reelection last year using federal covid stimulus $$ when he knew damn well just like I knew that the stock market
    wasn't going to keep going up and with that poof goes Ca. surplus and now he's facing
    a massive deficit. School boards and Teacher's Unions are already gearing up for battle
    over the shrinking state budget. They usually win....cuz you know...they donate the most.
    That's also an interesting take. You'd think those with the most money
    to start with would donate the most. Let's take a quick look...

    https://calmatters.org/politics/california-election-2020/2020/10/california-lawmakers-big-donors-special-interest-independent-expenditures/

    Teachers seem about equal to "Health Care Industry Groups" and "Prison
    Guards." All are well behind "Oil, Gas and Utilities."

    That's 2020. Maybe teachers have since pulled ahead.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 18 23:08:44 2023
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:32:29 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/17/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would
    be debunked.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.
    Interesting take.

    The returns on investments minus expenses should be held as reserves for the
    misfortunes that inevitably diminish returns and threaten reserves.
    These idiots were giving away money and 3 years later the Fed (backed by our
    tax dollars) is forced to bail them out. That's BS.
    Should there be regulations forbidding charitable giving by corporations?

    I specifically said banks. Is that too many letters for you?

    But let's really throw you a loop. Add utilities to that list.

    And state employee unions to the banned political donors list.

    ScottW

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 19 09:01:22 2023
    Bring out the missals - Shmoo scottw is pounding his pulpit again.

    Should there be regulations forbidding charitable giving by corporations?
    I specifically said banks. Is that too many letters for you?

    Yes, one must remember that Banks are the holiest temples of capitalism.
    You can't even THINK of socialism inside a Bank without setting off an alarm. Banks are so holy that they should be exempt from all taxation. Banks aren't mere "businesses" operated by profit-seeking money-grubbers. No, they are actually portals created by the Great God Of Mercantalism that can transport true believers into the realm of Pure Capitalism.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Sun Mar 19 12:49:51 2023
    On 3/19/23 1:08 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:32:29 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/17/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would >>>> be debunked.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.
    Interesting take.

    The returns on investments minus expenses should be held as reserves for the
    misfortunes that inevitably diminish returns and threaten reserves.
    These idiots were giving away money and 3 years later the Fed (backed by our
    tax dollars) is forced to bail them out. That's BS.
    Should there be regulations forbidding charitable giving by corporations?

    I specifically said banks. Is that too many letters for you?

    Banks are generally incorporated.

    But let's really throw you a loop. Add utilities to that list.

    And state employee unions to the banned political donors list.

    So no charitable giving for banks, utilities and state employee unions?
    Because you fell for misinformation that equated legitimate charitable
    giving with support for BLM? And supported by a post hoc argument that
    they gave money in the past and now are being bailed out? Does that
    count for those last-minute stock sales and bonuses?

    How about no giving to non-profits that give an illegal share to
    political operations?

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 19 18:28:13 2023
    On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:49:53 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/19/23 1:08 AM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:32:29 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/17/23 6:09 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/16/23 9:00 PM, ScottW wrote:

    Honestly....I don't really care who they f'ing gave money too.
    Which is why you brought this up despite the high probability it would >>>> be debunked.
    It's not their money and even if the bank technically had excess reserves as required by
    law to cover their depositors.....we all have just seen how quickly that can change.

    Banks shouldn't be donors of anything to anyone.
    Interesting take.

    The returns on investments minus expenses should be held as reserves for the
    misfortunes that inevitably diminish returns and threaten reserves.
    These idiots were giving away money and 3 years later the Fed (backed by our
    tax dollars) is forced to bail them out. That's BS.
    Should there be regulations forbidding charitable giving by corporations?

    I specifically said banks. Is that too many letters for you?
    Banks are generally incorporated.
    But let's really throw you a loop. Add utilities to that list.

    And state employee unions to the banned political donors list.
    So no charitable giving for banks, utilities and state employee unions? Because you fell for misinformation that equated legitimate charitable giving with support for BLM? And supported by a post hoc argument that
    they gave money in the past and now are being bailed out? Does that
    count for those last-minute stock sales and bonuses?

    How about no giving to non-profits that give an illegal share to
    political operations?

    Now you're talking. Let's make that any share.
    Knee-cap George Soros.....I like it.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Mon Mar 20 09:29:25 2023
    On 3/19/23 8:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:49:53 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/19/23 1:08 AM, ScottW wrote:

    How about no giving to non-profits that give an illegal share to
    political operations?

    Now you're talking. Let's make that any share.
    Knee-cap George Soros.....I like it.

    That's a step past the current 50% line. The IRS will have to enforce it
    but so long as the rules count for everyone, go for it.

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 12:37:26 2023
    On 3/20/23 9:29 AM, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/19/23 8:28 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:49:53 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/19/23 1:08 AM, ScottW wrote:

    How about no giving to non-profits that give an illegal share to
    political operations?

    Now you're talking.  Let's make that any share.
    Knee-cap George Soros.....I like it.

    That's a step past the current 50% line. The IRS will have to enforce it
    but so long as the rules count for everyone, go for it.

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke
    over the weekend.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 13:38:05 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke
    over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to Fascist Flea on Tue Mar 21 12:29:10 2023
    On 3/20/23 3:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke
    over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?

    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another
    PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

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  • From Fascist Flea@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 10:58:29 2023
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke >> over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?
    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another
    PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

    The conspiracy theories metastasize like cancer and make as
    much sense as numerology.

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 14:00:01 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:29:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/20/23 3:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke >> over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?
    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another
    PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

    Soros financing of far left candidates at state and local levels is not a secret.
    You acting like this is a new conspiracy from the right is just denial of reality on your part.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Tue Mar 21 18:08:51 2023
    On 3/21/23 4:00 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:29:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/20/23 3:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke >>>> over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?
    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another
    PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

    Soros financing of far left candidates at state and local levels is not a secret.

    Not only far left, but moderate left and moderate as well.

    You acting like this is a new conspiracy from the right is just denial of reality on your part.

    Who said it was new? Y'all love to make stuff up and all I did was
    connect the dots.

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  • From Art Sackman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 19:46:00 2023
    Who said it was new? Y'all love to make stuff up and all I did was
    connect the dots.

    And you come up with your own self portrait.

    https://quitegoodcards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/dot-dick-768x933.jpg

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  • From ScottW@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 21 20:33:02 2023
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 4:08:53 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/21/23 4:00 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:29:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/20/23 3:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke
    over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?
    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another >> PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

    Soros financing of far left candidates at state and local levels is not a secret.
    Not only far left, but moderate left and moderate as well.

    You're revealing your own extreme point of view.

    ScottW

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  • From mINE109@21:1/5 to ScottW on Wed Mar 22 09:34:29 2023
    On 3/21/23 10:33 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 4:08:53 PM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/21/23 4:00 PM, ScottW wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 10:29:13 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
    On 3/20/23 3:38 PM, Fascist Flea wrote:
    mINE109 wrote:

    Lots o' reports that Soros is the word of the day on Fox, replacing woke >>>>>> over the weekend.

    Are they blaming Soros for the bank failures?
    No, for the Manhattan DA. Soros started a super PAC that funded another >>>> PAC that supported reform DA candidates, therefore Soros = Bragg.

    Soros financing of far left candidates at state and local levels is not a secret.
    Not only far left, but moderate left and moderate as well.

    You're revealing your own extreme point of view.

    Extremely moderate. Many police reform issues poll well when not
    described as "defunding."

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