That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make "contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions weresent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two companies had found ties to the slave trade and the fund had received no contributions.
LoL.
ScottW
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In
February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were
sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses
were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
In the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer
funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In
February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were
sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses
were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
In the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer
funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In
February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were
sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses
were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
In the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer
funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In
February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were
sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses
were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?The founders are probably dead, too.
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
In the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer
funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator's
office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund
balance once a year to make a report.
It would probably cost more if anyone actually contributed.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:The founders are probably dead, too.
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote:
That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In
February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were
sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses
were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator'sIn the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer
funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund
balance once a year to make a report.
Probably more reports than that. And others to analyze and read them sand then on
to appropriate committees, etc.. i worked for state and local govt. it's never that simple and
streamlined.
It would probably cost more if anyone actually contributed.
more waste,
On 3/11/23 4:27 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:The founders are probably dead, too.
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote: >>>>>> That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In >>>>>> February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were >>>>>> sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses >>>>>> were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator'sIn the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer >>>>> funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund
balance once a year to make a report.
Probably more reports than that. And others to analyze and read them sand then onSure, but those people are in-house so don't incur extra expense. There would be a process and a template to follow.
to appropriate committees, etc.. i worked for state and local govt. it's never that simple and
streamlined.
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 4:27 PM, Art Sackman wrote:That's not the way costs are calculated in government service.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:Sure, but those people are in-house so don't incur extra expense. There
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:The founders are probably dead, too.
On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote: >>>>>>>> That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of
slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In >>>>>>>> February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were >>>>>>>> sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses >>>>>>>> were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two
companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade?
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator'sIn the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer >>>>>>> funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund
balance once a year to make a report.
Probably more reports than that. And others to analyze and read them sand then on
to appropriate committees, etc.. i worked for state and local govt. it's never that simple and
streamlined.
would be a process and a template to follow.
One's salary expense is apportioned to each separate function and accounting entry.
On 3/12/23 9:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:That's why I mentioned "logging minutes" to reflect the cost of the
On 3/11/23 4:27 PM, Art Sackman wrote:That's not the way costs are calculated in government service.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:Sure, but those people are in-house so don't incur extra expense. There >> would be a process and a template to follow.
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:48:50 AM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote: >>>>>> On 3/11/23 12:15 AM, Art Sackman wrote:The founders are probably dead, too.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:26:08 AM UTC-5, ScottW wrote: >>>>>>>> That ordinance also encourages city contractors to make
"contributions to a Special Fund to ameliorate the effects of >>>>>>>> slavery." The most recent annual report in March 2022 states, "In >>>>>>>> February of 2015, letters requesting voluntary contributions were >>>>>>>> sent to all City vendors covered by the ordinance. No responses >>>>>>>> were received."
A city official confirmed to The Center Square that only two >>>>>>>> companies had found ties to the slave trade...
Yikes!
Yikes, indeed! Two existing companies had ties to the slave trade? >>>>>
what does a company in existence in 2023 have to do with a company in existence in the 1850's?
Not much. Different investors, different management, different customers, different products'.
Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator'sIn the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer >>>>>>> funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund >>>> balance once a year to make a report.
Probably more reports than that. And others to analyze and read them sand then on
to appropriate committees, etc.. i worked for state and local govt. it's never that simple and
streamlined.
One's salary expense is apportioned to each separate function and accounting entry.
task. Sure, that worker is unavailable for other stuff so there's an opportunity cost, but the salary is still being paid.
On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:49:15 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/12/23 9:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 4:27 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-5, mINE109 wrote:
On 3/11/23 11:45 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
That's why I mentioned "logging minutes" to reflect the cost of theThat's not the way costs are calculated in government service.Sure, but those people are in-house so don't incur extra expense. There >>>> would be a process and a template to follow.Probably done in-house. Some flunky in the SF City Administrator's >>>>>> office probably has to log some minutes to look at the Special Fund >>>>>> balance once a year to make a report.In the past eight years of the fund's existence, how much taxpayer >>>>>>>>> funds were spent to administer the perpetual zero balance????
Miniscule.
How do you know that? Back up your assertion.
Probably more reports than that. And others to analyze and read them sand then on
to appropriate committees, etc.. i worked for state and local govt. it's never that simple and
streamlined.
One's salary expense is apportioned to each separate function and accounting entry.
task. Sure, that worker is unavailable for other stuff so there's an
opportunity cost, but the salary is still being paid.
That is a truly wonderful argument. That when government employees, who spend so
much time doing nothing, actually start doing something, it doesn't
cost the taxpayers any more money.
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